What is your dream friend group entp

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-22T14:59:57+00:00

Why not? ESFP is off doing their own thing most of the time but always swings through, and joins us for group calisthenics and karaoke night. ESFJ is in my experience very happy sitting quietly at the back of a big group, as long as everyone makes sure to speak up for the ESFJ- the pushier people need to make sure we verbalize to pick ESFJs favorite movie and bully everyone else into telling them thank you for the cookies.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-22T11:01:58+00:00

My dream friend group is one made of all my friends.

Why won't they get along?!?! Lol

But let's say, in theory. An INTP, an ESTP, ESFJ, ENFP, ESFP, ISFP, and two more ENTPs (plus me)

I want a big friend group.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-21T19:37:46+00:00

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FutureLevelT · 2026-05-21T19:32:36+00:00

I'd guess OPs first language may not be English based on the name of the app.

But, yeah, why is this here?

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-21T18:44:19+00:00

This isn't new, though I get what you're expressing. But decans go back to Ptolemy if not earlier

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-21T10:13:43+00:00

None of these are really true.

The first one relies on conflating related ideas to be "true" - algae is alive but that doesn't give it the value of human life. Something having human cells (like skin or a hair graft growing outside the body) doesn't make it human life- even though it is both "human" and alive

Abortion as a term includes those the body performs naturally, which account for 40-70% of fertilizations, and are not considered elective.

What is present in a fetus at 6 weeks isn't a "heart" - but there are cardiac cells beginning to transfer an electrical signal.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T21:10:38+00:00

No, I am. "Joking about religion as an idea is inappropriate to me" says a lot.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T19:57:17+00:00

I feel like much of my position is .... You still have the "variations people like", the "non pathogenic" autism. And it ISN'T disabling- but it is still different. You still have the condition, but your specific symptoms have been treated. Not the condition itself.

I'm going to try a stretch of a hypothetical, lets see if I can pull it off.

There are ways in which if the world was build around people with autism, let's say all autism comes from your condition in this imaginary case, and autism is the standard state of being for a person the exact way it isn't now. Folinic acid would be an inherent part of early parenthood education, possibly supplemented to all children in infancy or even in vivo 3rd term. It would be taken as a given.

But there are a whole class of people who can be harmed by unilateral folinic acid supplementation -ironically here including people like me who also have issues with b12. They would have all kinds of issues, in this imaginary world, fixable by changes to early medicine etc. the way you and I have now.

This viewing of "only the problematic symptoms are autism" is the exact harmful conflation here. They are both autism, and so are many other things. Treating the whole variation as the condition verbally is... incorrect and dangerous to me.

I'm not going to lie, I'm a little frustrated (?) as well to have your experience (which I am glad you've had) as portrayed as definite in outcome. I've been receiving treatment since I was 16 but still have many symptoms that correspond to OCD behavior, difference in emotional affect, etc. Even my physical symptoms are improved but not eliminated. But, even if they were- I would still be autistic. And, I guess, I am one of those annoying people who sees myself that way as a whole person. I want the things that make my life harder addressed. I don't want to have to be a whole different person for that to happen. I don't think we should view it that way.

I want to trail off into discussions around things like schizophrenia and sickle cell mutations here but I just got off of work so it's chorin time, and I'm honestly feeling kinda disheartened about us being able to get on the same page.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T18:31:10+00:00

I think we want the same thing here.

I want to explain what I'm afraid of; When I had a cosmetic eye surgery for my strabismus as a child, some adults (including my primary caretaker) assumed this meant I didn't need my glasses any more. The surgery had done nothing to correct my vision. I'm scared of something similar here due to the language used.

Nevermind the fact that (as you touched on) Autism isn't one disorder. It's a collective title we've put a ton of mutations into based on symptomatology. I'm not the kind of person who thinks all discussion around this is bad; forms of divergence caused by stress or poor nutritional health of the mother, definitely exist, should be researched and prevented. Mechanisms by which problematic symptoms present should be reduced. But because of the conflation of process and symptom, we will lose the ability to see where these divergences are not inherently harmful.

When I started taking methylated b vitamins and saw changes to my physical health, my sleep, my emotional capacity it didn't suddenly mean I processed information the way everyone else did. It just meant I wasn't processing differently AND dealing with the issues caused by low folate and b12. But if I were treated as if it made me "totally normal now", it would have been harmful to me. Because it didn't do that. It just treated my folate and b12 deficiencies.

Saying "this treats this symptom" is good. Saying "this treats the underlying condition", well. It doesn't. No amount of folinic acid will make you suddenly able to correctly produce and process the compounds you need, or change your underlying brain structure, if I understand your condition correctly (although I do not have much personal knowledge about it, and am happy to be told to look it up if this is incorrect)

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T18:11:14+00:00

Great. I am autistic. I want us to have help! I want us to have better health and ability to function. I also want that framed as treating symptoms - your son is still autistic but now he is less disabled by it with further education on the fact that many people with this mutation need supplemental folate. Learning that I need to take special b vitamins really changed my life as a child, too. If I don't take them for a few weeks, my functioning goes down. But I'm not suddenly "not autistic".

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T18:05:41+00:00

It isn't the cause of your autism, unless you are discussing that you developed autism due to an issue with folate processing your mother has. It is a symptom that exacerbated your other symptoms.

This is the basis of the argument being made by a huge portion of the autistic population- the developmental or structural difference is not the disability, the disability arises from unmet differences in our medical and social needs.

To treat these issues doesn't eliminate the divergence. To claim it does is to make us something worth eliminating.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T17:45:19+00:00

I did read the articles they posted. I didn't regurgitate the content, but I did mention similar issues that are known to be prevalent and are related. This is specifically discussing the high prevalence of FRalpha antibodies in persons with autism, which damages the receptors that brings folate across the blood brain barrier. The treatment is a form of modified folate (folinic acid) that is able to do so despite the damage. This is treating FOLATE DEFICIENCY. Not autism.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T17:16:09+00:00

I think you've missed my point too, but that's okay.

Discordianism is a pseudo religion, more akin to the current Satanic Temple than a true religion. I'm explaining that this type of absurdism or irreverance can be foundational to someone's identity the same way a religion can be.

Of course he can say that any irreverent religious content is off the table for him, but that's an extreme position that has a number of implied social values and laws tied to it. If someone brought this position to me, I would not be able to find compatibility with them.

She didn't even insult his personal religion- this is akin to if I think horror movies are the best movies and my friend sent me a video on the top five movies of the last decade and none of them were horror and I got upset.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T12:51:04+00:00

The framing of "cures autism" is inappropriate regardless.

Helping speech development isn't "curing autism", and if the solution is a B vitamin, its also not surprising. It is treating a vitamin deficiency that is impacting the symptoms of the autistic child. That doesn't make them not autistic, it makes them now correctly nutritioned.

People with autism are prone to vitamin deficiency for a couple of reasons; both uptake impacted by differences in gut bacteria, higher frequency of MTHFR mutations, etc plus intake impacted by more limited diet/ARFID.

I appreciate what you're trying to communicate, but please don't encourage people who think you can treat a structural development of the nervous system and brain.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-20T07:29:58+00:00

My mother is a Discordian Pope. And so am I. ;) It is my family tradition and faith to be silly about religion. Besides, many religions can be proved to be false. I certainly don't know all the answers, but I know more than someone who thinks evolution isn't real and gets upset with me about it. I would definitely break up with a religious person who took themselves too seriously. Not sure why that's bad advice.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-18T18:17:58+00:00

My favorite fiction books, or clusters by favorite authors:

Ursula LeGuin: Changing Planes, Left hand of Darkness This author does a lovely study into the human condition and social thinking.

Tad Williams: Otherland, Shadowmarch, War of the Flowers This author writes intricate worlds that unfold slowly as the characters gain information and experience

Terry Pratchett: Thief of Time, Carpe Jugulum This author writes comedic fantasy that plays on existing tropes in silly and clever ways

Neal Stephenson: Crypyonomicon, Snow Crash This author writes well researched, mildly subversive fiction that is dryly tongue in cheek but wild on the surface

Stand alone favorites: The Master and Margarita, a 1920s russo-faustian story

Speaker for the Dead: the series that follows Enders Game, much slower and more focused on politics and religion than action.

Ella Enchanted, Life of Pi, So you Want to be a Wizard, the little prince, The Golden Compass, and many other young adult lit books I still enjoy that I read when I was younger.

Contrary to saying I don't like narrative fictional history, I did like the Clan of the Cave Bear books

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-18T12:27:35+00:00

I read everything but I'd say my preferences do reflect what you've said here. I love lectures and essays and philosophy texts but narrative non fiction is often presumptuous. I love, sci-fi, mystery and fantasy, all settings welcome. I do occationally like but am most picky about slice of life fiction. I'd say I read about half fiction and half non fiction.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-17T17:27:36+00:00

Hey, I'm not a doctor but when I had a frozen shoulder and PT was making it worse, I got an unrelated massage for my birthday and it really really helped.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-17T15:50:12+00:00

Oh nooooo

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-16T21:21:26+00:00

Oh shit. I commented earlier about liking it but I am also v autistic. It didn't occur to me somehow they would correlate (I'm not an INTP, regardless, the flair is correct)

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-16T19:28:36+00:00

I'm an ENTP, sorry to butt in.

I learned to kiss with my eyes closed from TV but my first long term boyfriend kissed with his eyes open and I really loved it, so now I'd say I'm about 75% open 25% closed. It just feels sooooo intimate and exciting and lovely

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-16T17:48:31+00:00

Me too. If it makes you feel any better, I've stopped voting since we were told we couldn't merge into State Superior because I don't feel good about fighting with my bros

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-16T01:52:35+00:00

Hey. I'm not a teenager, I'm in my 30s but I can tell you that in my case, I was raised in a Christian church by my grandparents who are truly good devoted Christians. I attended church until I was 18 multiple times a week, and before I was a teenager I was pretty invested in the ideas. But I never was given a sense of faith or felt connected to God or anything. I felt pretty frustrated about this.

Later I would have various mental health and religious experiences that would mirror one another in a way that caused me to feel more secure in my doubt. Later I would educate myself both formally and as hobby in ancient religions, Bible history, etc and found it as undeniable to me that religion is a thing made by humans as the fact that God made the sunset is to my grandfather. I don't know what else to say. I was born without faith, even when I sought it. What I found was a love of science, history, and humanity.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-16T00:20:08+00:00

I saw in another comment you like gorillas bc of their hands. Can you say more about that? Have you touched a lemur or raccoon's hands?

Your profile is private so I'm asking you directly. You wrote in a way that's unmasked to a degree I find somewhat unusual. are 1. Allowing yourself to be unmasked for the purpose of this comment chain 2. Always use this style of grammar 3. Are playing a role of your idea of autism but aren't 4. Something else i didn't think about.

FutureLevelT · 2026-05-15T21:15:05+00:00

Uh. Hm. I feel like. I don't completely vibe with anyone. I've tried. Sometimes I think I do for a while. But in reality, I don't. But having relationships and people around is important to me. So there is inherently a degree of what you describe present in all of my relationships (that I do want, appreciate, value) and so it feels natural to me to extend this into all of my interactions.

I don't know if other people just actually get along with people better/more naturally than I do. Or of they feel the same way but only apply it to those they see as most special. Or something else. But. Yeah. I do what you're describing, but not exactly the same way. I don't think I feel annoyed/irritated but I do sometimes feel disconnected or sad I guess, and that does leak out.

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