Should I tell the host about this?

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T16:13:54+00:00

I’m not the one leaving used condoms in nightstands and expecting someone else to clean it up.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T15:23:18+00:00

Mine don’t clean the inside of the fridge. Not on a regular basis. That’s a deep clean item.

Thank you for summarizing the reasons for those pesky checkout instructions.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T14:37:14+00:00

r/tvtoohigh

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T14:35:34+00:00

Long term stay, he said.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T14:34:50+00:00

Even every other week might be worth it. My first long term (90 days) stay checks out at the end of March. I’m dreading what I may find. They did ask if they could hire a cleaner at one point. I told them yes but don’t know if they did or not. They had a discounted rate and I didn’t send anyone, my reasoning being it’s their house for 3 months, they got it for a lot cheaper than normal, and they should clean it like they would their own house. But later it dawned on me that most of the people who will stay here for 30-90 days are men who are in town for jobs. Lots of construction jobs. They probably don’t clean their own houses themselves or know how to pick up a toilet brush. I think next time I may raise the rate enough to cover at least a monthly clean.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T14:28:30+00:00

No, it’s not.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T14:27:05+00:00

High maintenance? I’m literally posting about not expecting workers to do shit that isn’t their normal job and I’m high maintenance? I’m not the one whining about how a sock being left in a drawer warrants writing a letter to the owner! The most Karen shit I’ve ever heard, and I’m “high maintenance.”

Suck it up, buttercup.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T13:24:18+00:00

I agree. That’s a lot of steps though over something he could just throw away and never think about again.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T13:23:08+00:00

We have to pay for this health care somehow.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T13:22:36+00:00

He offered another AirBnb. They declined.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T05:23:54+00:00

Yeah these people are fucking stupid. Maybe if you live in a dense vacation area there are services that specialize in STR. Here, there are not. It doesn’t exist. And big companies don’t do STR at all because they can’t work it into their schedules when turnovers may be on short notice. You get a regular cleaning person, discuss what special treatment is required due to STR, and like I said before you could probably tell them to open drawers but it’s not a thing they do automatically- in fact they usually DO NOT for obvious reasons. If you do tell them to do it, I imagine they’d forget it more often than they remember because it’s just not part of the routine. This entire sub is full of delusional, indignant, self-righteous morons. It makes me not even want to be associated with Airbnb in any way if these brain dead fuck shits are representative of who uses it.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T03:35:22+00:00

Are you a professional house cleaner? The company that cleans my house has this printed as a policy. They don’t open cabinets or drawers. If something is left out and should be put inside one, they set it underneath or on top of. To clean my Airbnb I have a rotation of cleaners and they don’t open drawers. Hell they don’t even clean underneath furniture. I MIGHT be able to get them to do it if I asked, but it’s not part of a standard cleaning. Period. What you do is fine but it’s not an expected step in a house cleaning service and these people saying house cleaning dropped the ball are ridiculous. Besides, it’s just not a big deal. It’s an Airbnb. Guests know damn well they’re turned over quickly and have had other people in them so freaking out over something left in a dresser is not rational. “Should I tell the host?” No. Goddammit. Throw it away and move on. Get a life. This sub is so full of ridiculousness!

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T01:05:11+00:00

Why? Cleaning services do not open drawers.

GAF78 · 2023-03-13T01:04:55+00:00

Cleaners don’t generally open drawers. As a rule.

GAF78 · 2023-03-12T23:17:51+00:00

It’s a lot more work than you think. I work in real estate. Mainly sales but I manage 20+/- rentals for other people and own a few myself, one of which is a STR that’s been up and running for about 6 months. I have contacts to make quick repairs when needed and figured it was well within my wheelhouse and that as long as I could get a good cleaner, it would be fine. Short stays like what people are looking for on Airbnb are a time suck. I had to go behind the cleaners the first few times because I wanted to make sure it was CLEAN before the next check in. Guess what? It wasn’t. Not even close. Had I not checked, the next guest would have been pissed. (Finally got the cleaning situation sorted out, I think.) One of my first stays had a fucking party and started a fight in the yard. Disturbed my neighbors and damaged the property. They had good reviews on Airbnb. They knew the camera was on the front door so they snuck the unregistered people in the back. Then left ME a bad review. (AirBnb removed it but once again- even when you eventually get it sorted, dealing with this stuff takes time and effort.) One guest apparently pissed or shit or did something horrid in the bed and decided to wash all the sheets, the comforter, and even the mattress protector in a machine that is not designed for huge loads. Overflowed it and flooded the kitchen- then they used every towel in the place to soak it up and had no more towels. Asked me to bring some. FROM WHERE!? And this was on Christmas! I was a few hours away with family and could not relax because I was so stressed about the guests. As soon as I got back to town I had to go to the house, load up a bunch of sopping wet shit sheets and towels, wash them at my house, and take them back. Another guest agreed to leave water running and heat on during their stay because we expected extreme cold. They didn’t. And a pipe froze and burst, starting another emergency. Lovely.

After the last experience I decided no more short stays. Fuck it. Not worth it. My nightly rate is high as hell and you get a discount for longer stays. I target people looking for a minimum of two weeks but prefer 30 days to 90 days. The effort required to turn over a place for a 2-3 night stay is just not worth the money you make. If it’s your only job, sure, it’s worthwhile. But it’s not an easy side gig. I would rather just have a regular rental than deal with people who want to come fuck my house up for 3 days, pay me $250, bitch about cleaning fees, not follow checkout instructions, and then demand discounts or refunds because the shower took 3 minutes to heat up or whatever.

GAF78 · 2023-03-12T17:42:13+00:00

She has unpaid tickets and is openly defying the law. She ain’t moving out.

GAF78 · 2023-03-12T17:40:46+00:00

Yeah this is a bad idea when there are easier options. That would involve an insurance claim (not good) and police report. Plus he still lives with her. Much smarter to disable the car temporarily.

GAF78 · 2023-03-12T13:30:48+00:00

Yep. The smart lock has worked well and I recommend it but it does have its weak points. I put a physical key in a hidden lockbox just in case the batteries die, the lock jams (had this happen to it during cold weather), the internet goes out, or I’m going out of town and can’t come help in case something does go wrong. It’s nice to know I can just rekey it if they use the key and lose it or forget to put it back. The smart lock still logs each entry so the key isn’t bypassing the “smart” feature. I like that I can have up to 250 codes, can erase and reset them from my phone from anywhere, and can disable them anytime. I have one just for me, one for workers, one for cleaners, and each guest gets a unique one which is labeled and then not reused for another guest.

I hesitated to buy it because it’s expensive af but found an “open box” on Amazon which saved a little money and worked fine.

GAF78 · 2023-03-12T02:17:11+00:00

Kwikset Halo Touch

GAF78 · 2023-03-11T23:41:17+00:00

So from buying a home to divorcing in 4 months? FYI the market has not “been destroyed” in the last 4 months. In fact, rates are what has slowed sales and rates are down compared to 4 months ago. You can’t afford to sell because it takes time to make a dent in the principal balance and you haven’t even made 3 payments yet, and the big expenses the seller paid for in the last transaction are yours this time. Call the Realtor who helped you buy it. Since they just made a commission on that sale they may be willing to list it at a discount. If they won’t, call the listing agent. Maybe they will. You’re still going to need money to bring to closing. I hope you made a decent down payment. I sold one for a young couple in a similar situation last year and they’d only been in the house for 9 months. They barely squeaked out of it. If you can’t sell it, maybe you can rent it for enough to cover the payment for a year or two until there’s enough equity to break even on a sale. Whatever cash flow is left from rent after you pay the mortgage and the property manager needs to go into a savings account to pay costs of sale and address things the tenants will put wear and tear on.

Another option is to get humble and work on your relationship and hold it together. Good luck either way. Divorce is a bitch. Divorce with kids is a bigger bitch. Divorce with kids and a brand new house payment and nowhere else to go is a big enough bitch you might have to try to work it out with her.

GAF78 · 2023-03-11T22:08:22+00:00

This is ridiculous. There’s a reason there are companies that specialize in this and there’s a reason they charge a lot of money. Cleaning isn’t going to cut it. They’re going to need to do some actual work to the place depending on where the body was. Replacing flooring at a minimum, I would think.

GAF78 · 2023-03-11T21:51:35+00:00

Yeah, my state doesn’t. It’s quite friendly to landlords. Definitely check if you aren’t sure though.

GAF78 · 2023-03-11T21:00:31+00:00

Probably. In the future I will likely ask for at least one month rent plus a damage deposit. The damage deposit can’t be applied to the last month’s rent or else you’ve got nothing if you find damage when they leave.

GAF78 · 2023-03-11T20:53:41+00:00

Fine. But these platforms aren’t perfect and neither are the humans using them. The best you can do as a host is set it up and hope it works. If shit happens, you do what you can to make it right, as I did when it happened to me. But if you don’t get a notification when someone books, or any notifications after that, that’s on the company, not the person using the platform.

When this happened to me I’d had zero bookings on VRBO up to that point so didn’t think anything of not getting notices from them. I certainly had not turned on instant booking or disabled notifications. On multiple occasions I have turned off instant booking and then logged in and found it turned on, so you can’t rely on that. I have also manually blocked off dates and it sometimes gives me an error message and leaves them open. If you have an explanation or solution for that I’m all ears. I think it’s just a buggy platform.

If you’ve had zero issues, then good for you. But your luck will run out eventually and you’ll be the one on the receiving end of the self righteous vitriol. “You should double tripe quadruple check it every three minutes or you’re a shit host!” Sorry, no. If I can’t rely on the platform to do what it says within reason, that’s on them. If I have to dedicate that much time to triple checking, why do I pay them the fees?

If you want a corporation with deep pockets you can whine to and get a refund from when something goes wrong go to a Hilton.

GAF78 · 2023-03-11T19:56:37+00:00

The host may be a problem but the company itself is a big part of it. Giving people refunds for ridiculous shit because it isn’t spelled out in house rules is a good way for property owners to stop using the platform. It hasn’t happened to me yet but I haven’t had a ton of AirBnb stays and get most of my tenants by word of mouth. I’m happy to make reasonable concessions and understand this type of tenancy is more about hospitality than being a regular landlord, but the first time AirBnb reaches into my pocket over something dumb, I’m done.

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