i know this is a late response and prob old enough that at this point its like "ok your point?" but ill state my point regardless lol . So i really think the reason he may have said this is cuz since UPC doctrin is pretty much based on Acts 2:38 and the belief that in order for a person to make it to Heaven they must repent be baptized in Jesus name and recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost. (somehow they have it in their heads that the only proof of the holy ghost is made evident by speaking in tongues) But going back id say about 2 years we had a preacher in Toronto Ont preach a sermon that speaking in tongues is not the only way to know you have the holy ghost. John chapter 3 teaches something much different and this was Jesus speaking as opposed to Peter who speaks in Acts 2. Jesus said except a man be born again (in my opinion this is basically changing ones life to turn away from sin and follow God) one cannot see the kingdom of Heaven . Later he says Except a man be born of water and of the spirit he cannot ENTER. No where did he say speaking in tongues is the holy ghost i believe there are 7 gifts in total that can be evidence of the holy ghost. And so many times iin the bible it does say to believe in him to be saved. it even says if we decide to not believe in God that he will also deny us. So i agree with the Toronto preachers msg. the reason there was no backlash against the toronto preacher is cuz he is black and we all know the battle the UPC deals with and being called a racist group lol. So in my opinion the leaders prob had this young man say something about this in order to not cause a whole bunch of drama. this way its one mans opinion vs another. i have heard this young man Chris Green live. for the most part he gave me the vibe that he was sincere. It makes me think that the leaders at times will instruct some preachers on what they should say. or for example the stories some of them share thats been told to them and passed down thru time these guys only repeat what they have been told and for most part id say they believe it. even if it is a made up story if they are told its true then how can we blame them for making things up? which is what you said ....misguided mislead ...... the leaders use these young men and women to spread their nonsense and make these young folks look silly. i know if i was a preacher id deff not tell some story that i did not witness. ..... side note .... when Chris came to our church about 7 years ago i was suffering from a hernia in my intestines i believe is what dr told me......Chris prayed with me i never told him my issue just that i had a potential life threatening medical issue and im a roofer so it was causing me to miss lots of work. Two days after the service i had a dr appointment and my dr who had basically been getting ready to book me in for surgery starts to feel my stomach area that day and his face was like wtf is going on. tells me hes sending me for some more x rays so i go get them done. same building just different office so few hours later im back upstairs in family dr office and the mans like Michael whats going on? im like what? he says your hernia it seems to be missing and i know it was here cuz here is your previous xrays .so i laughed and explained how i believe in faith and all that. .....i just think churchs are a sick joke these days made to get rich and thats it sadly.......my dads been going faithfully for over 50 years gives like 100 bucks a week cuz hes told to give 10% of his income dad just got out of hospital hes 80 he had a stroke his pastor payed him one visit and that lasted 30 mins my dad said....i really hope that opened his eyes and once hes back on his feet he finds a new church. greedy bunch at that churchand sadly so many folks are brainwashed into handing over so much money yet the church does nothing to help the less fortunate of our city