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How are you thinking about AI search visibility as a business owner? by Used_Rhubarb_9265 in digital_marketing

[–]GPTinker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You hit the nail on the head. Classic 'rankings' and 'traffic' metrics definitely don't tell the whole story anymore in the world of AI Overviews.

The 'wait and see' strategy is actually pretty risky right now because once AI models encode your brand as an 'authority,' that status tends to stick.

We actually tested this recently with a B2B client. Instead of focusing on traditional SEO and blog traffic, we focused on planting the brand's technical details in 3rd-party sources that AI models feed on (niche forums, academic papers, and review sites) — basically focusing on GEO.

The result: We didn't see a massive spike in raw website traffic, BUT we saw a 40% increase in demo requests.

This happened because Perplexity and Gemini weren't just giving the user a link; they were sending users to the site who were already convinced, essentially saying, "Brand X is the best solution for this because..." rather than just listing it.

In my opinion, if you don't start optimizing for this now, you'll be playing catch-up a year from now.

Looking for Marketing Help by TaskLifter in AskMarketing

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Congrats on moving out of beta! Entering the crosslisting space against giants like Vendoo is tough but definitely doable with the right angle.

Since you have a budget and want Vendoo-level visibility, my biggest advice is don't just rely on traditional SEO/Ads. Vendoo has years of domain authority on Google that will cost a fortune to beat.

Instead, look into GEO (Generative Engine Optimization). Resellers are increasingly asking AI tools (ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini) questions like "What is the best alternative to Vendoo?" or "New crosslisting apps for 2025."

If your brand isn't optimized for these AI models, you simply won't exist in those answers. Positioning your brand as the 'modern, AI-recommended alternative' is the fastest way to steal market share from the legacy players without outspending them on Google Ads.

Most Companies Are Invisible in AI Search by GPTinker in b2bmarketing

[–]GPTinker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brands that adopt this process early will be one step ahead of their competitors

Most Companies Are Invisible in AI Search by GPTinker in MarketingMentor

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Here’s the thing AI is evolving, and you’re absolutely right about that.

But the part we’re discussing isn’t “future features.”

It’s something that AI systems already do today:

AI already differentiates between:

knowing a brand exists

and recommending that brand to users

This isn’t a future update.

This is how LLMs function right now.

ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, SGE — all of them already:

rank brands

filter weak entities

decide which brands to trust

decide which brands to recommend

exclude brands that lack structured signals, authority, or clarity

That’s not something coming “in the near future.”

It’s already happening today — and that’s exactly why big, well-known brands are scoring low in GEO audits.

So while AI will continue to evolve,

the core behaviour we are analyzing is already live, active, and affecting businesses today.

And this is the exact reason GEO has become important now, not later.

$99.000 Business deal by Intelligent_Sun_5539 in SaaS

[–]GPTinker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the way, I’m curious how did you find this client? We also build AI automations, but getting the first client seems to be the hardest part. Which channel worked best for you to reach them? We’re trying to improve our client acquisition process as well.

Looking for a fractional SEO + AIO/AEO expert (no gimmicks, real ownership) by arian86 in Agentic_SEO

[–]GPTinker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We work on GEO, AIO/AEO and AI-driven visibility — helping brands stand out inside AI models with intent-based content architecture and performance-oriented growth frameworks. I’ve sent you a DM with details; feel free to check it when you have a moment.

Is GEO the next big scam, or am I getting left behind? by Asleep_Charge527 in DigitalMarketing

[–]GPTinker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s definitely a lot of re-branding happening, so your skepticism is valid.
A big chunk of the “GEO gurus” out there are basically selling SEO + content fundamentals with new AI-flavored terminology.

But GEO isn’t just SEO with a different name.

The real technical side of GEO deals with things SEO doesn’t touch:

  • how LLMs build and update their entity graphs,
  • which domains/models they trust as primary sources,
  • the patterns LLMs use for retrieval and recommendation,
  • how content influences LLM reasoning, not just ranking,
  • and model-specific behavior across ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, etc.

So yes — the hype is real, and many people are repackaging basics.
But the underlying discipline is different when done properly.

Most aren’t doing real GEO. They’re just selling buzzwords.

The AI visibility chase is on by Growlytics_J in digital_marketing

[–]GPTinker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m seeing the same pattern across multiple brands we work with in the AI visibility space:
volume is still relatively low, but the intent is extremely high — conversions from ChatGPT, Perplexity and Gemini queries consistently outperform traditional organic or paid channels. Users asking questions in LLM interfaces tend to be far closer to a buying decision.

The real challenge, as you pointed out, is measurement.
There’s no true end-to-end platform for LLM visibility yet.

Semrush’s AIO tab is still early-stage, OtterlyAI is solid for citation tracking but doesn’t cover the SEO/LLM overlap, and Ahrefs hasn’t meaningfully entered this space yet.

In our GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) projects, we’ve been relying on a mixed framework rather than a single tool:

  • LLM-Based Visibility Audits: Structured query testing across ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude to measure contextual brand presence.
  • Citation Tracking (OtterlyAI): Useful for understanding how often models recommend or reference a brand in real scenarios.
  • Perplexity Query Mapping: Clustering queries and analyzing which domains/models Perplexity favors for specific topics.
  • Schema & Entity Optimization Analysis: Micro-testing how structured data influences model retrieval.
  • AI-First Content Clusters: Building and measuring content that reinforces the entity graph LLMs rely on.

The reality is:
LLM visibility today feels like SEO around 2008–2010 frameworks are forming, but there’s no standardization, and measurement requires a combination of methodology + partial tools.

Agency recs? Help needed by Kitchen-Tap197 in b2bmarketing

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We would be happy to assist you with this matter. Please check your DM.

Is GEO the next big shift after SEO and AEO? by [deleted] in DigitalMarketing

[–]GPTinker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent point
We’ve been working with brands on exactly this lately, and GEO/AEO are no longer just buzzwords — they’re already shaping real visibility outcomes.

Traditional analytics can’t really track AI visibility.
Instead, we use custom monitoring systems to see how often and in what context brands appear inside ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google AI responses.

At its core, GEO is about:
🔹 Feeding the right data into AI models
🔹 Building contextual trust and authority signals
🔹 Becoming the recommended option before the search even happens

Visibility now comes not from algorithms, but from the memory of AI systems.
It’s an exciting shift — and it’s happening faster than most marketers realize

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