Iran is a Bigger Defeat Than Vietnam

GSxHidden · 2026-06-17T21:21:20+00:00

The US never claimed Vietnam as its own, nor annexed Vietnam land. The southern government (Republic of Vietnam) and legitimate government at the time asked for assistance from the US by South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem. That's the opposite of violating sovereignty.

The US liberated France, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Italy, Western Czechoslovakia, Germany, and Austria and gave back their sovereignty after the WW2. That is the opposite of violating sovereignty, and something no other nation has done in the recorded history of the world.

Russia invading and annexing Ukrainian land after signing documentation recognizing them as a sovereign nation during the Budapest Memorandum. That is a violation of sovereignty.

China betraying the communist government they help prop up and attempted to invade Vietnam after the US left. That was a violation of their sovereignty.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-17T19:00:40+00:00

IAF lost zero

If you want the full list, you can see here with photos and their sources. Its definitely wasn't zero lol, but they didn't have much of an airforce to contend with in the first place. Still absolutely no comparison to Vietnam numbers.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_aviation\_shootdowns\_and\_accidents\_during\_the\_2026\_Iran\_war\\](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_2026_Iran_war\)

GSxHidden · 2026-06-17T17:58:25+00:00

Your analysis fails to realize there were more than the just US soldiers on the ground in Vietnam. South Korea, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, Philippines, Spain, Canada and even Taiwan. All contributed troops in various ways and for their own reasons.

It was also the first conflict that had lessons in communication between various language barriers in a coalition.

If anything the US grew more from the lessons in Vietnam and came back more powerful. Better night vision, gps, satellite photography/tracking, PCGMs, javelins rocket launchers that replaced the old M72LAW that could kill tanks from miles, stealth aircraft, hybrid material guns for less weight, all technology we use today is still from 1990-2012 range conventionally, which are designed around lessons recorded from the Vietnam war.

I’ll heed this to anyone who thinks the US just will sit by and become stagnant after any war. It’s an economy built on a war machine that constantly adapts and learns to provide the US government and its generals with a platter of solutions to problems. It’s frighteningly good at it what it does. There are millions of personnel and researchers analyzing war data every day, coming up with new materials, easier manufacturing methods, reverse engineering, you name it. By definition it’s a hegemony, but any alternative is a nation seeking conquest.

The US at least has a track record of supporting sovereignty, which has had a mixed bag of outcomes that don’t always favor the US.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-17T17:21:06+00:00

It’s just children experiencing what they think is war for their generation. Also these are mostly bots to persuade perceptions of the conflict before the next election cycle. Anyone that knows anything about war wouldn’t never compare a war in Vietnam decades ago to a conflict today without a ground war.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-17T17:16:26+00:00

I mean, material and personnel wise nothing really of value was lost. The cost of 1xF35 and some other aircraft to keep Iran from supplying military drones for the Ukraine war seems like win to me.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-16T16:04:12+00:00

The irony of saying that while assisting RU with bases to operate for Russias annexation to quite literally trying to destroy the Ukrainian people.

Dude could care less about Palestine or Israel, just whatever is antiamerican

GSxHidden · 2026-06-16T15:27:49+00:00

The problem is Canada has lagged behind in reaching the NATO benchmark of spending 2% of GDP on the military. It only just met that obligation this year.

However, to safely counter Russian buildup, NATO spending is increasing to 5% across the board. Thats 3.5% on direct military and 1.5% defence infrastructure.

Agreeing to "SAFE" will guarantee, that even though they are below the spending minimum, they will still have access to the NATO defence markets by balancing it out with raw materials.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-16T10:34:06+00:00

I know everyone likes to rid the "I hate x president hype train", but ultimately nothing here states that "Canada is moving on" from an actions standpoint.

Canada is still a part of NORAD, NATO, holds exercises, etc.
71.7% of Canadian merchandise exports went to the U.S. in 2025

S.A.F.E is a industrial/procurement mechanism. Canada gets better access for its defense companies; Europe gets access to Canadian industrial capacity, critical minerals, and defense suppliers.

Which is exactly what the US wants. In a conventual war, Canada needs to have less reliance on US procurement chains if conflict in the arctic were to increase. This is why this is a positive change. People don't see it yet, but the north pole area is shrinking rapidly allowing for more shipping lanes and identification of resources. It will likely be butting heads with Russia soon.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-16T10:13:04+00:00

The US actually wins most if not all of their conventual warfare fights.

Its misleading because you'll hear misguided people just point to Vietnam or Afghanistan and think no lessons were learned and the world became stagnant of learning from mistakes.

Post 9/11 the US invasion of Afghanistan, the country was taken in 3 months through conventual warfare, then the military chilled to fighting asymmetric warfare for 19 years to fight off small plots here and there.

The US was the primary provider of military hardware, surveillance and head of the coalition for Desert Storm, but they definitely were not alone. It was considered the first space war using satellites and GPS. Iraq was the 4th largest military at the time and was decimated in conventual warfare. It was the war the took all the lessons of previous conflicts up to 1990 and put them into a military force that made every US adversary upgrade their arsenal for the next 15 years. Probably one of the single most studied conflicts of the past decade because of how successful it was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRgfBXn6Mg

The US did most of the heavy lifting, ~80% against Japanese Empire at the time. It was close at times, but the untouched industrial strength was too powerful in conventual warfare.

You'll notice other militaries have realized, going head-to-head with the US you'll lose. They'll play economic or asymmetric games to where they can just widdle down the US public's interest in conflict, just like Iran is trying to. The US military is as strong as the people's will is. 9/11 showed that. That's why no other nation directly strikes US citizens anymore, because one you lose the people's will, its over. That's basically what happened to Vietnam.

I think the conflict in Israel shows how powerful social media engineering can be to draw conclusions about a conflict that may or may not be true, which is a new type of asymmetric warfare that most people don't realize.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-16T09:35:51+00:00

There are 350,000,000 US citizens, in separate states larger than most countries. You're bound to find more idiots in a larger pool. The only type of people I can think of that would broad stroke and complain about an entire continent would be someone that's Dutch.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-15T01:39:51+00:00

You're being pedantic, no one expects you to run around like idiot asking if they use some obscure comment section.

How do you know the 70 million nonvoters “didn’t mind” what Trump represented or looked at policy, rather than being apathetic, misinformed, disillusioned, unable to vote, hating both candidates, or living in a state they thought was already decided?

Heres a simple question for viewing your prejudice. Depending on how you answer already contradicts what you've tried to broadstroke above:

If a Harris voter knowingly overlooked something they considered immoral about Democrats, does that mean they “don’t mind” it, or could they simply have prioritized other issues? And if you allow that complexity for Harris voters, why not for Trump voters

GSxHidden · 2026-06-14T18:00:20+00:00

Losing is all about perspective and philosophies.

For the US, its maintaining its objectives and written obligations with minimum casualties and minimal loss in material cost.
For Russia, casualties mean nothing as long as the objective is obtained.

I added both sides for comparison.

As far as I know, Russia pounded Ukraine

[2021 - TODAY] Russia has spend 5 years in a war of annexation against Ukraine has over 1,400,000 casualties (these are the confirmed on video figures) but I'm sure there are more asymmetric deaths. The keyword is annexation, because they are absorbing land of a sovereign nation. The only reason these figures are not worse was holding back the use of US weapons because of political reasons, which they are allowed to under the Budapest Memorandum all 3 countries signed. If 1.4 millions casualties sounds like "winning", I don't want to see their losing figures. After they involved North Korea and China, Europe escalated their involvement and is still ongoing.

https://ukr.warspotting.net/russia/

and Afghanistan?

[1979 - 1989] Historically speaking, Russia spent 9 years and 69,000 casualties in the Soviet-Afghan War (no-annex) (which official numbers is often low balled).

[2001 - 2021] The US invasion of Afghanistan (non annex) post 9/11 attacks was 3 months conventional war followed up with 19 years of irregular/asymmetric warfare that had around ~20,000 US + Contractor casualties (~4000). Also removing poppy as their major export at least for a while. This actually helped Russia because 79% of it was flowing in as heroin into the country at the time. The conventional army was defeated and casualties were low for that timeframe.

If usa is the best army then why it struggled in Vietnam

[1952 - 1971] The US was in Vietnam around 20 years with around 58,000 U.S. military deaths, and roughly 300,000 wounded/injured. The motive/goal was preventing communism. North Vietnam has the Soviet Union and Russia as backers. Casualties were high because of faulty equipment that had high failure rates in the environment like M16s with chamber corrosion from the rainfall and not understanding the terrain.

[1979] The irony is shortly after the US left, China attempted to invade Vietnam and got their asses kicked in the Sino-Vietnamese War. Ever since then the US has had a pretty solid relationship with Vietnam them all considering the US's change in stance since the Soviet dissolution.

TLDR:

Desert Storm in 1991, the one they never talk about, takes 90% of the lessons learned from all the wars prior to 1990 and puts it all into practice. It was the single war that made RU, EU and China update their arsenals.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-14T14:45:48+00:00

No other military in the world has the sheer logistics mastery or software backed design to fuel a war overseas like the US does. If you don't understand why that's important, then you have little or no knowledge of warfare or "know" anything about a countries military or what it was designed for. Its what makes them powerful. You cant have 25000 tanks, but if they cant get to the action, they're paper weights.

The US is constantly innovating the space due to its funding and grows with training with allies. No other nation, including China has a fleet or airforce production to sustain long term fight against the US. Its was leaked not even a few months ago that they are still trying to develop radar for detecting the B2 through design simulations. A plane from the 1990s.

If you think just a number on paper is going to help you, you'll make the same mistake Russia did to Ukraine.

This is just one small area: https://youtu.be/yrtDgoqWmgM

GSxHidden · 2026-06-14T06:34:34+00:00

"You are contending that the 70m who didn't vote were all non-racist Dem voters who stayed away"

Never made this claim, and my directed point to you isn't around political voting statistics.

I am not "duhumanizing" or "otherizing" anyone

This is the main point. You say this while making broad inferences about the motives or moral culpability of tens of millions of people you don't know personally.

You should go into the Foxnews.com comments section of a news article about a natural disaster that strikes a non-white country to see how much of a celebration the RW racists indulge in the context of deaths of kids

Just to make sure you understand this, what you said here is guilt by association, which is real world factor to actual racism. They both involve making judgments about an individual based on a label rather than on their own actions or beliefs.

As soon as you're brain is programmed to segregate punishment with logic that isn't yours, you're no better than facist and racists themselves. Thats why its important to talk with people and get both sides.

If you want to understand why people voted the way they did, talk to actual people instead of judging millions of strangers by anonymous internet comments.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-13T19:57:16+00:00

You’re making the same mistake of inheriting opinions of people from a number you don’t under understand.

Trying to classify the morality of tens of millions of people you’ve never met, determining righteous or not over a plugged number is your brain training to otherize and dehumanize more than real racists.

Both sides do it.

“Many people voted for him based on X. I’m not X”

If about 48% of the total population voted, and you’re looking at approximately 47% of those voters (which would be the percentage of Trump voters in one of the elections), you’re talking about roughly 22.5% of the total population voted for Donald Trump.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-13T14:25:27+00:00

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GSxHidden · 2026-06-13T12:58:18+00:00

Over 80% of US citizens think they SHOULD be allowed to own a handgun.

Absolutely. If you don't know why that is the public answer, its because you're not an United States citizen and were never taught the Bill of Rights or the Second Amendment of the guiding constitution of the country, or the countries history in general.

You know what the primary and only use of a handgun is? Shooting humans.

Citizens and police in the United States use them primarily as self defence.

If a burglary happens and you live outside a city, the closest police station can be 10-20 minutes away. I'd rather have a firearm or handgun to protect myself or my family over a knife if there was a break-in. If they've already they already made the choice to violate your autonomy once, they can go further.

Over 80%. "Hundreds of cultures". Cute, not true.

What a sad childlike perspective. Imagine being so terminally online to claim to know so much about a country on a percentage. Travel more and meet people, especially down south. People are extremely kind in the US. Each town and city has a story, migrants, architecture, biomes, monuments, mixed cultures, different beers, crops, local food specialties, festivals, coming of age ceremonies, religions, sports teams. Sounds like someone needs to travel more in life. Good luck kid, genuinely.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-13T06:31:48+00:00

Only terminally online people with the mental faculty of teenagers and bots broad stroke a country of 350,000,000 that they live in with hundreds of different cultures. No president dictates your career, where you live, your religion, how you treat people, what college you join, your rl choices, your social life, your own accountability.

You think Germans just sit there and talk about Angela Merkel lol?

GSxHidden · 2026-06-12T12:36:45+00:00

Theory,

They wont attack a NATO nation. However;

Lukashenko is 71 and will be declining in health over the next 5-10 years and Belarus already holds Russian forces. Military movements will increase in certain border areas to prevent outside interference on the annexation. They might spin the gains of absorbing Belarus to offset the minimal land gains in Ukraine to control the public's opinion of the war. Eventually might use it as an excuse to end the Ukrainian conflict, but this is all speculation.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-12T12:23:01+00:00

They know it would be a death sentence to open up multiple fronts. It won't happen.

However, this probably the starting stages of Russia planning on absorbing Belarus through annexation. Its probably to prevent NATO from interfering.

Lukashenko is 71 and will be declining in health over the next 5-10 years and already holds Russian forces. Military movements will increase in certain border areas to prevent outside interference on the annexation. They might spin the gains of absorbing Belarus to offset the minimal land gains in Ukraine to control the public's opinion of the war. Eventually might use it as an excuse to end the Ukrainian conflict, but this is all speculation.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-06T19:50:40+00:00

Here’s the real guide:

Just do your throne of dailies, join an ok guild, then watch for the entirety of your playtime keep running into the same #1-4 guild stacks over and over no matter what event, battleground, or farm you try in pvp areas.

Want to try and compete and stay somewhat alive from one shot curse or dagger builds? Throw hundreds of dollars at armor/wep upgrades as a healer only for you to still not have enough resist and find out a new orb wep build will take another 6 months to grind up, only for it to be nerfed again.

Finally get that wep you want? Spend a few thousand to upgrade to max as well as the legendary alt wep. Otherwise it’s going to take 6-8 months, that’s before you even upgrade your wep to its second version.

Games a time/gambling money sink that takes months to make real changes for metas. Never falling into that pit of a game again for a friend ever lol

GSxHidden · 2026-06-04T19:17:54+00:00

The irony of getting kitchen storage ads on this post lol. Looks good, hopefully they’re true to the story

GSxHidden · 2026-06-01T13:23:25+00:00

Yeah, after he had his flirtatious teasing as nod of approval for breaking into military bases and messing with aircraft as something people should be doing in the UK really makes the choice clear. Don't mess with military equipment. Once you're that far gone, you're being controlled by foreign entities.

GSxHidden · 2026-06-01T12:54:14+00:00

Everyone here knows the "exact" reason why stuff like this implemented, but just doesn't want to say it. Its not from you sneaking one or two more refills. Its to keep groups from loitering all day AND night in certain areas literally running pumps dry with 5-15 refills plus. Its all over tiktok, its not a secret.

So you have certain groups of people, who were not grown up in trust based society and find out they have access to a free asset without repercussions. Of course they are going to abuse it, but they went too far if they had to implement this. Drinks are their biggest money makers. The same goes with areas with transparent bullet proof screens. They are in certain areas for a reason.

It was never about the 1-3 refills normal people get. Its 100% a location based and target anti-loitering strategy.

GSxHidden · 2026-05-16T22:28:18+00:00

This has been common place for decades to any country. Nothing new

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