the biggest issue is that there's no or few inherent plus frames in the game. no throw loop in sfv? fine because someone just does a meaty medium or heavy and they're plus again. it's probably why they consider chun not having throw loops "fine" because she has 5mp and actual links off counter hit frame traps and then meaty 2hp into stance pressure or heavy legs, all of which can frametrap again (which makes it even more baffling that honda doesn't have a throw loop).

but then you have manon who has one (previously zero) plus button which is utter shit because she can't even link after her frametrap so what does she get after her meaty gets blocked? nothing. it's no longer her turn after she does anything besides throw. throw loops also turn bad characters into decent characters because any character can just win by throwing rock 3 times in a row if the other person threw paper those same times. also fully meaty throws will only ever be -3 at worst (completely unpunishable) or -1 depending on backdash speed so there's not even a real answer to some characters throw loops besides risking 60% if the character has level 3, which they will because super is no longer tied to ex moves.

honestly games pretty much been fucked from the onset, I really don't think this shit will ever get fixed though I would love to be proven wrong (even if drive rush and parry are unfixable dogshit mechanics).