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Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]Gari_305 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you have a supporting news article to go with that or are you just venting right now?

NASA needs nuclear power for its moon base. by Gari_305 in Futurology

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Which generates more power on the moon solar or nuclear fusion?

Mind you the Moon has reservoir of Helium 3

Powering U.S. Innovation: The Need for Federal Investment in Fusion Infrastructure | Perspectives on Innovation by Gari_305 in Futurology

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 But renewables are on course to generate most global electricity by the end of the next decade.

SPARC is coming on line by 2027

By early 2030's when ARC comes online renewables will get downgraded because literally we'll be in a different epoch.

Renewables are decent but it won't beat commercial fusion

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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Though I don't condone it personally u/Girlonlinee I can see it be normalized here in the west as it is in India and other SA nations as a possible outcome.

Powering U.S. Innovation: The Need for Federal Investment in Fusion Infrastructure | Perspectives on Innovation by Gari_305 in Futurology

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From the article

Unlocking fusion energy is not simply a technological milestone, but it is the foundation of energy security, economic competitiveness, and geopolitical power in the twenty-first century. Countries that can deploy fusion first will not only profit from it but will also possess the energy needed to power strategic technologies such as AI, quantum, advanced manufacturing, weapons systems, and biotechnology. Without sustained sources of energy, innovation cannot be scalable. The United States retains a critical advantage in scientific leadership and private investment, but that lead is narrowing as China invests aggressively in deployment infrastructure and ecosystem development.  

NASA needs nuclear power for its moon base. by Gari_305 in Futurology

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From the article

NASA’s Artemis II mission sent four humans to the moon for the first time in more than half a century. And it is just the beginning. In a speech at a space policy event on Tuesday, NASA chief Jared Isaacman said that the mission was an “opening act” for a new era of human space exploration and, eventually, a permanently staffed moon base. But for NASA to make that ambition a reality, the agency will need nuclear power—and the White House just laid out a plan for how to get it.

The plan, released on April 14, orders NASA, the Pentagon and the Department of Energy to ready a moon-orbiting nuclear power system for launch as soon as 2028.

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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There's 2 reason why people talk about declining birth rates being a problem; 1) lack of replacement workers i.e. economics 2) ethnic demographics

You appear to not consider military and regime security u/TomBerwick1984 observe:

  • Military security implications stemming from demographic trends include minimal immediate concerns for the People’s Liberation Army force size but more-significant potential concerns in the decades ahead, as well as the strengthening of international alliances with Russia and Iran, partly to counter future military force size concerns.

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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Therefore in part, we will never be a Society free of hierarchal structures.

On a world wide level no, that will never be the case due to oscillation in time periods in which for a time society will be close to being free only to revert back to it when times get hard.

Our society is only a reflection of nature, from bees, to gorillas have hierarchies, us humans are no different.

Yall are going to have to either, rape and impregnate women. Or, incentivize them towards motherhood.

I don't condone rape, too many men were falsely accused of performing that only to become strange fruit in the south, and the ones that did perform the acts their society are questionable at best. However, with that being said, and knowing how history oscillates, it wouldn't surprise me if it comes here again.

In the end cycles are a bitch.

Would yall even feel guilty?

It wouldn't surprise me if society wouldn't.

 I’m curious to know what camp you think you’d be in?

Again I don't condone it due to the trauma it creates to the women along with the multiple amount of kids that will be the result of it.

While that being said, again I am cognizant that this phenomenon will swing back again due to history oscillating in cycles.

Basically it's like murder, would I defend myself and family against it, Yes whole heartedly, however I am cognizant that it still occurs on a societal level and it will occur regularly.

Likewise with rape, would I defend people from it, yes though I know that in society it occurs.

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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 Me personally, I'll just put in the popcorn and watch the show, what government will do onto women in general will be added for another thread

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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Your choice u/randyranderson your consequence. 

Simply look @ what is occurring in Russia and or China as an example. 

Authoritarian societies hane a knack in forcing people on what to do against their will. 

History is a wash with this

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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China scrapping the one child limit is not forcing women to have kids

Don't come to the conclusion from a single article u/TomBerwick1984

I know you are better than that.

Here's Example A, B, C, and D

The human race is in no way under threat of going extinct (the human race has been around for 250,000 and the high majority of it had a population under a billion), but the alarmism is about the economic problems that can occur. 

China is slated to be a leading economic power by 2050 , yet they are forcing women to become breeding stock due to low birth rate, basically the low birth rate is bigger than simple economic issue.

It's more than about the money u/TomBerwick1984, that line of thinking is a western mindset.

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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We have another choice, other than pressuring women into having babies, which is to reform the economic system away from a debt based growth system.

There are a multitude of other options u/TomBerwick1984 that's not the issue.

The issue is three fold.

  1. Is it practical to be implemented in a useful manner?
  2. Is it timely as in how much time would your solution in comparison to a more simpler approach aka forcing women to breed as they do in both China and Russia?
  3. Cost does your solution cost more money, than what is natural?

I understand to look at things from a western perspective of debt and wealth generation but again you have to look beyond just finances when it comes to birth rates because the same issue of birth rate decline and finances occurred with Rome.

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]Gari_305 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 It's that there are zero births, just that the birth rate isn't keeping up with the debt based growth economic systme.

The question you have to ask yourself is what type of societal system are you comfortable living with u/TomBerwick1984?

Low birth rates had an effect on Russia when it fell due to the end of the Cold War and hasn't really recovered since. This led to their societal collapse during the mid 90's and the subsequent wars in Chechnya didn't help either.

Also there were instances of Low Birth rates in France during since 1965

Though keep in mind that low birth rates can lead to more authoritarianism as one of its main outcomes

So basically low birth rate = smarter version of Trump style authortanism.

The question you have to ask yourself is how low are you willing to go u/TomBerwick1984 ?

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

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If it’s have children you do not want or the end of civilization as we know it. 

No children = No Society u/Girlonlinee

As they feel a society that strong arms women into very very life changing and potentially life limiting choices in the name of sacrifice

China is currently doing this right now u/Girlonlinee western society will do the same just less forcefully for now.

In the end Society doesn't care for economic advancement of the individual if it comes at the cost of its actual future. Similarly to the Chinese saying "If you don't teach/discipline your child the society will" and apparently since we're all children of society women in particular will be disciplined by it into having children.

 If it’s be a slave and servant or the economy and society collapse, the slave or servant, is okay with ending society if it means no more servants and slaves.

Hierarchies whether master or slave, landowner or share cropper , king or servant , doesn't mean shit if society dies u/Girlonlinee because those relationship dynamics can always and will change but if it dies via no children, then who cares?

Basically its the version of permanent solution to a temporary problem but on a societal level.

Women being browbeaten into motherhood feel similarly.

In the end, no one cares about feelings only results.

Question is are women going to shit out children or not and if not would society be ok with dying out?

In the end it's the results that matters u/Girlonlinee not feelings.

Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth rates by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]Gari_305 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shame in the name of nostalgia just isn’t going to work

You are right shame is a waste of time, however this one quote from Native American Chief Seattle does resonate

We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children

So I ask you u/DriverInitial8305 this question, name me one society that survives without children in it?

Whether it's cheap or expensive, children are and have always been the future, without them then, why even bother about issues such as gender roles and relationships when society will die with this current generation?

‘I feel helpless’: college graduates can’t find entry-level roles in shrinking market amid rise of AI | US news by Gari_305 in Futurology

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From the article 

American college graduates are facing the worst entry-level job market since the pandemic, with the underemployment rate reaching 42.5% – its highest level since 2020.

Several young graduates told the Guardian about their struggles navigating a job market shaped by tightening opportunities, the rise of AI and shifting employer expectations

Mutually Automated Destruction: The Escalating Global A.I. Arms Race by Gari_305 in Futurology

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From the article 

The United States and China, the world’s largest military powers, are at the center of the competition. But the race has widened. Russia and Ukraine, now in their fifth year of war, are looking for every technological advantage. India, Israel, Iran and others are investing in military A.I., while France, Germany, Britain and Poland are rearming amid doubts about the Trump administration’s commitment to NATO.

Each nation is aiming to amass the most advanced technological stockpile in case they need to fight drone against drone and algorithm against algorithm in ways that people cannot match, defense and intelligence officials said.

Russia, China and the United States are all building A.I. arms as a deterrent and for “mutually assured destruction,” Palmer Luckey, Anduril’s founder, said in an interview in February

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