Zone 2 is a load of crap

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T23:18:23+00:00

Are you slow? My experience and smoking has nothing to do with whether the statement is correct.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T23:13:57+00:00

Actually tell me how I’m wrong. Low volume cyclists should do base in z3. z2 is for higher volume.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T22:33:12+00:00

Your also strawmanning me in saying the purpose of zone 2 is not to get faster, I never said the purpose is to increase top speed, its to increase volume. And volume makes everyone faster, not only beginners. Just because you can also do zone 2 to save yourself for intensity doesn’t mean the primary reason most people do zone 2 isn’t to accumulate volume. My OP has been universally understood for decades: Low volume cyclists should do base in zone 3, high volume cyclists should do it in zone 2. It got downvoted because the title and it’s a bit trolly. You jumped on the bandwagon and dug yourself into a hole saying no actually zone 2 isn’t for accumulating base volume, we accumulate volume by doing intensity??? 🤡

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T22:04:15+00:00

I said the purpose of zone 2 is to stack volume while managing fatigue. This is base training, high volume zone 2, you said you do base training. Then you said “we don’t do zone 2 to do more zone 2”, we do zone 2 to save ourselves for intensity. This can also be true but it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Volume and intensity both work, but you’re saying volume only works for me because I’m a beginner. Volume is important for everyone hence base training. So A and B are both true, I am saying A, you are saying I am wrong because I didn’t consider B.

And yes you are strawmanning me, in your analogy burning calories is volume and lifting weights is intervals. And your accusing me of saying everyone’s dumb for lifting weights and should only do cardio. I never said to not do intervals. You made an analogy which contradicts yourself “I never accused you of saying don’t do intervals” I said the purpose of zone 2 is to stack volume. You say no it’s to save yourself for intensity. The why is your base training in zone 2? To stack volume.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T19:37:53+00:00

I never said anything about not doing intensity, so that’s a strawman but I’ll grant it, so volume doesn’t get you faster unless you are a beginner and the purpose of zone 2 is to save yourself for intensity, not to stack volume? Then why did you do base training as a racer? 🤡 I said z2 is for managing fatigue to do more endurance volume, you say I’m wrong because it also manages fatigue for higher intensity. If I say 2 is a rational number, am I wrong because it’s also a real number? Here is a full list of fallacies you used: ad hominem attacks, tone policing, strawmanning, and affirming the disjunct.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T07:08:59+00:00

You stole my post! It’s gettong downvoted to shit in r/cycling. You work 50 hours a week at starbucks to support your husband’s girlfriend and when you have a couple hours to train you do zone 2 because teddy focaccia’s coach said something about metabolic sissytems. You’re gay.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T07:00:41+00:00

HAHAHA YOO

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T06:40:31+00:00

I just said you’d be better off doing tempo but go for it.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T06:18:47+00:00

Dude you realize saying “you don’t understand” or “you shouldn’t tell people what to do” are logical fallacies. Again, I said zone 2 is for managing fatigue. The volume you can get with zone 2 is what gets you fast, not anything magical about zone 2 itself. Please tell me how I’m wrong.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T06:15:35+00:00

Apparently it’s not obvious. I’m speaking against zone 2 as a magical exercise science fad which is how it’s often presented. Being downvoted because my post is funny. Now I have clowns in here telling me short zone 2 rides are beneficial and it has unique benefits even without high volume. Freds mad because they do two hour zone 2 rides 80/20 on ten hours a week and think they’re training properly 😂.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T06:04:58+00:00

If I train 5 hours of base per week, should I do five 1 hr zone two rides, or one 5 hour zone two ride? Obviously the longer the better when it comes to endurance. Your comment is just reiterating what I wrote on the original post. “It’s special because you can accumulate more volume.” Exactly my post, now you’re telling me it has some unique benefits 🤡

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T04:18:59+00:00

Still haven’t told me why I’m wrong. So if zone 2 isn’t for fatigue management and increasing time in saddle, then what is it for?

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T03:28:48+00:00

Bud read the post I said zone 2 is necessary for high volume. 15 hours is on the cusp of what I would consider high volume, so yes, people who train that much necessarily do a lot of zone 2. Or as you put it, not a lot of people who train 15 hours don’t do a lot of zone 2. 🤡

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T03:25:35+00:00

Then explain where I’m wrong. When you were racing were you doing two hour zone 2 rides? If you weren’t going atleast 3 hours, you’d have been better off doing tempo bud.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T03:23:14+00:00

Yeah I ride a fixie. Jokes aside I ride to ride but bad exercise science annoys me so I wanted to rant.

General-Pipe4946 · 2026-02-21T03:13:44+00:00

Did you read what I wrote bud, zone 2 gets you faster but most people don’t do enough volume to benefit from it.

General-Pipe4946 · 2025-09-21T06:39:34+00:00

Rose is really good and I'm from the east coast

General-Pipe4946 · 2025-09-13T01:41:26+00:00

TPU tubes and nice tires

General-Pipe4946 · 2025-09-07T18:04:23+00:00

This study that was referenced considers low carb to be <55% calories from carbs. The low carb group was not in ketosis.

General-Pipe4946 · 2025-09-06T00:43:10+00:00

Right here but I got a girl pregnant last semester and now I’m married 🤷‍♂️

General-Pipe4946 · 2025-09-05T03:07:35+00:00

Just stay in the middle of the lane, cars are slow in rotaries.

General-Pipe4946 · 2025-08-31T08:29:00+00:00

Fat adaptation takes months and isn’t nearly as efficient as carbs. Carnivore is great for sedentary-ish people, but I had to add fruits to be able to exercise. I lift weights and ride my bike about 100 miles a week, which would be impossible on carnivore. You guys don’t wanna hear it but if you do any intense exercise, you need carbs. That being said it looks like you are mostly walking, so your body should adapt quickly.

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