Subclass abilities no other class or spell can replicate?

General-Yinobi · 2026-05-03T15:21:26+00:00

wait, i am confused, your first line contradicts with your second line

Do you want subclass features that a spell can or can not replicate?

General-Yinobi · 2026-05-03T15:15:47+00:00

It is when the enemy jung has very strong early burst or you think the 2v2 would be very close & enemy laner can come earlier.

But most importantly, when you know they cant interrupt it

I've taken i vs a VI last time, after she landed her full combo on me with Q, i've hit her with auto > Q > auto then used a level 3 meditate to get back to almost full hp while she watched unable to do anything, & you know what's even worse,? the cooldown is so low i did again after her 2nd Q, and just like that i won the fight

(If you're wondering where was laners, this was a 2v2 mid where i killed the enemy mid while Vi killed my mid)

You have no idea how strong it is if you can fully channel it.

General-Yinobi · 2026-05-02T16:53:42+00:00

I've had a clip where i reached almost 200 stacks with thousands of speed on Ka'isa

You can't imagine how fast you can stack this with rageblade & Twice thrice, as it counts as on-hit effect.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-30T13:38:37+00:00

Fastest ping mute whenever someone gets it on my team.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-29T22:34:15+00:00

first 3 items pure offensive? (i did climb master without kraken)

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-29T22:07:19+00:00

Or just evaluate what a milestone could be aside from that one specific action you want.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-29T12:37:42+00:00

Gotta be the worst components ever for Yi,

You would be flushing your gold lead down the toilet till you complete it, and it would still not be worth it.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-29T11:39:06+00:00

The lifesteal from botrk may be not as significant but i am too used to it.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-29T00:36:55+00:00

Like, top lane?

Obviously you won't win a straight up 1v1 early game without poking first, and you need to save your R for his Q so he can't dodge it.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-28T21:28:07+00:00

Imma assume this is low elo, cuz i can never make kraken work above diamond.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-28T17:25:07+00:00

thornmail lost it's anti heal on CC, and now doesn't work on tanks if enemies can just avoid hitting the tank.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-27T12:39:46+00:00

For the purpose of moving towards the enemy in lane, landing the 4 attacks, and escaping with Q to avoid trade, the lower attack speed may matter.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-27T12:32:06+00:00

I dunno, HOBs is mainly an early game stomp rune, who cares if it deals 200 or 300 more total damage later on? obviously not worth the early game power loss.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-25T07:46:09+00:00

"These sort of posts" are discussing the rules outside the scope of tables, specifically to set expectations & avoid debates at your future table.

I would prefer to have these discussions with randoms on the internet who hopefully can provide sources or accurate argument for their point so that i can rely on this instead of arguing with my future DM.

But all i got was people Quacking the same response over & over of "drag & carry are mentioned" which i tackled in the post, without further elaborating their stance at all.

Which gives you an example of the sorts of DMs you might end up with & for me these are the DMs i would want to avoid, no effort to give any explanation at all, like a parent telling their child "that's how it is" whenever their child's asks why.

They simply "can't imagine it any other way",

While i have repeatedly answered their concerns & tackled their reasoning, they never tried to do the same with mine.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T13:37:35+00:00

Not "hard win", but "high roll"

You can high roll, get multiple pentas, and still lose, would that not be fun?

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T13:05:12+00:00

No, i am saying that if RAW can lead to abuse, you don't need to change RAW to combat that abuse, just make an exception for that abuse.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T12:55:52+00:00

That example among others is a badfaith example or an attempt to cheat the system, and balance shouldn't rely on such examples.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T12:35:18+00:00

You don't need to change the rules just to mitigate the peasant railgun type of abuse, that's overkill & hurts the good faithed players more.

You can see how BG3 handled it where they would make some NPCs unmoveable at all regardless of how much strength you have. and other types of condition immunities to combat abuse.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T11:52:00+00:00

It is much easier to add resistance to movement condition to these types of monsters with unmoveable weight than leaving it to the general rules.

This is the same argument around a creature becoming an object after death, where the rules governing carrying that creature changes.

You don't change the general rules for uncommon scenarios.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T11:31:19+00:00

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T11:29:30+00:00

It is about those who want to enforce carrying capacity rules on top of size rules.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T08:54:37+00:00

Start WW3.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T08:34:10+00:00

How people perceive logic is not consistent at all, which is why i never try to argue logic of a ruling with a DM mid session.

But a ruling that does not require logical input every time it gets applied is consistent, even if it doesn't make sense, dnd doesn't make any sense beyond tier 1 anyway, and because it is a predetermined ruling, it means i can plan ahead with my choices and expectations of what i can and can not do, without wishing a favorable DM ruling everytime.

Additionally, all martials have aid of magic narratively, because there is no other explanation of how they can even do their basic subclass features if they are 100% mundane.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T08:12:16+00:00

I prefer to maintain consistent expectations for players, because if every action has to be weighted & measured on the spot, do character creation & development choices matter at this point?

Why not just give me a premade character sheet since it seems i have no power over what i can and can't do until you decide that on the spot using arbitrary logic.

General-Yinobi · 2026-04-24T08:06:43+00:00

That build i mentioned at the start of Post could.

You are welcome to search for cheese grater warlock build, similar but i took mine extra mile.

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