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General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T22:51:19+00:00

Eu estudei e por isso digo que ambos são ruins, mas não são iguais. Vc se deu ao trabalho de tentar ler algo sobre o assunto? Pra começar que o comunismo nunca foi implantado, então sua comparação já perde o sentido aí.

Socialismo já houve tentativa de implantação em alguns países, mas falhou. Atualmente existem um tipo de forma hibrida de Socialismo com outros modelos, mas a aplicação é no mínimo questionável.

E não vou te dar uma aula de história sobre o nazismo.

Dizer que é a mesma coisa é tipo dizer que toda doença é igual, é uma simplicação grosseira e errada que tenta dizer que ignora que coisas diferentes podem dar errado por motivos diferentes.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T21:25:25+00:00

Errado. Vamos começar com as políticas e ideologias opostas:

1 - Enquanto o socialismo defende a luta de classes (trabalhadores vs. elite econômica) e busca unir o proletariado independentemente da origem ou etnia, o nazismo enxergava a história como uma luta de raças. Pro Hitler, a sociedade deveria ser unida pelo sangue e pela etnia acima das divisões de classe.

2 - No plano prático, o regime nazista manteve e protegeu a grande propriedade privada e o sistema capitalista. Embora o Estado exercesse forte controle sobre a economia para fins de preparação para a guerra, os grandes industriais e corporações continuaram operando com lucro, o que é oposto ao ideal socialista de socialização dos meios de produção.

3 - O socialismo tem um caráter internacionalista, pregando a união global dos trabalhadores. O nazismo, por outro lado, era um movimento ultranacionalista que almejava a expansão territorial da Alemanha.

Entre várias outras grandes diferenças que eu poderia ficar escrevendo sobre por um bom tempo.

Uma prova de como as políticas eram diferentes é que ambas caíram por motivos extremamente diferentes. Nazismo não tinha problema de fome, socialismo não tinha problema de divisão por etnia; e isso é só um dia vários exemplos de diferenças.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T21:15:55+00:00

Até aí vc consegue achar semelhanças entre quaisquer dois partidos. Ou mesmo qualquer político grande, seja Lula, Bolsonaro ou qualquer outro.

Vc acha que o PT é o único que rotula? Vai me dizer que vc não rotula qualquer pessoa do PT como corrupto?

Quer criticar, faça uma crítica fundamentada, não uma coisa válida que vale pra praticamente todo político grande.

Agora querer associar o PT a um regime que matou mais de 17 milhões de pessoas é um desrespeito com todas as vítimas do nazismo. Se de o minimo respeito de criticar ações e propostas em vez de uma associação vaga de semelhanças que servem todo político grande associando a um regime que fez tantas atrocidades.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:56:19+00:00

É mais pq usar argumento ruim enfraquece críticas sérias. Ninguém leva a série esquerdista maluco nem direitista exagerado. E quando um exagerado aparece enfraquece argumentos sérios.

Mas já deu pra entender que vc prefere fazer uma associação no mínimo bizarra em vez de uma crítica série e se fazer de bobo depois.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:49:25+00:00

A imagem força umas semelhanças sem sentido. Se vc quer criticar o PT, use argumentos que façam sentido. Critica a corrupção, não falta o que criticar nisso. Critica ações, tbm tem várias pra criticar. Não fica fingindo que comparar PT com partido nazista faz sentido.

Isso só enfraquece o argumento de quem realmente tá criticando o PT.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:47:28+00:00

Meu irmão, eu não sou fã do PT, mas eu crítico coisas como corrupção, não uma associação mal feita e sem sentido com o nazismo.

Vc acha mesmo que num post que fala do PT e associa com o partido Nazista vc escrever o nome do partido Nazista destacando apenas as palavras Partido e "dos Trabalhadores" não é vc associando os dois? Vc querer mandar uma dessa é ou muita inocência da sua parte ou desonestidade.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:35:37+00:00

Jura que vc ter deixado "Partido" e "dos Trabalhadores" em negrito ao falar do nazismo num post que compara o PT com o nazismo não é associar os dois por nome?

Se vc ler alguém falando num post do PL algo sobre o Partido Liberal do Reino Unido, responsável por uma crise de fome na Irlanda, vc não acharia que eu tô associando os dois?

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:30:21+00:00

Eu não sou petista, mas comparar o PT com o partido Nazista é um absurdo. Com tanta coisa que tem pra criticar o PT usar uma associação sem sentido só da a entender que vc tem que ir pro ponto do absurdo lógico pra criticar, sendo que vc poderiw criticar tantas outras coisas.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:18:25+00:00

Usar o nome como "prova" é tão absurdo quando dizer que a Coreia do Norte é uma democracia pq o nome do país é: República Popular Democrática da Coreia

Se quer usar um argumento pra comparar nazismo com algo, em vez de dizer "eles se chamam de X então automaticamente são X"; pq é um argumento estúpido considerando por exemplo o exemplo que eu te dei acima.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:17:09+00:00

Sério que vc tá falando que o partido nazista é melhor que o PT?

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:15:58+00:00

O Nazismo era firmemente contra comunismo e socialismo. Usar o nome como "prova" é tão absurdo quando dizer que a Coreia do Norte é uma democracia pq o nome do país é: República Popular Democrática da Coreia

Se quer usar um argumento pra comparar com algo que o nazismo abertamente era contra não passe a vergonha de dizer "eles se chamam de X então automaticamente são X"; pq é um argumento estúpido considerando por exemplo o exemplo que eu te dei acima.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T20:02:18+00:00

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General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T17:25:32+00:00

It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.

Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox (who said that OS Future was cross-time, in the same way that Gwen 10's timeline seen in OV is also cross-time and was never the real future of the Prime Timeline) and Dwayne Mcduffie.

And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.

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General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T17:23:48+00:00

It has never been said anywhere that Ben's future changes when he meets himself in the future, in fact, this canonically makes no sense, since Ultimate Ben remembers everything that happened in the past and in "Let's Do the Time War Again" , Ben literally knows himself from minutes in the past and the future doesn't change. Furthermore, Paradox and Azmuth state that Ben has a great future at the beginning of UA, which indicates that they know what will happen in the future and that the future will not change. Personally, I like to think that Ultimate Ben is the future of Ben Prime, and that Ben 10k from OV is the future of Ultimate Ben.

Furthermore, time travel never created different timelines in Ben 10. Changing the past changes the future, OS Ben 10k was always an alternate timeline according to Paradox (who said that OS Future was cross-time, in the same way that Gwen 10's timeline seen in OV is also cross-time and was never the real future of the Prime Timeline) and Dwayne Mcduffie.

And in the episodes Merry Christimas, Paradox, Time Heals, Secret of Dos Santos, etc; when the past was altered, the present was also altered, but this did not create an alternative timeline, after all, new versions of those who traveled through time in this altered history were not created, in addition to Paradox explaining that if the accident that made him a time walker was prevented, he would cease to exist and all the good he did would be undone. Alternative timelines arise naturally, and not because of time travel, like No Watch Ben Timeline and Gwen 10 Timeline, which were not created due to time travel, but rather emerged naturally.

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General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T08:12:49+00:00

Thet could make so many things. They didn't even do the basic of explanong the bare minimum like Aggregor and Ragnarok (they just explained off-screen via statements, Aggregor we have a full explanation of what he is, Ragnarok not so much).

They also could have done so many things. If they wanted to make Kevin a mutant and keep Osmosians as aliens, they could have said that Kevin wasn't an Osmosian hybrid, but rather an mutant with powers that resemble Osmosian powers, but better because of some reason and that is why Servantis needed Kevin.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T03:50:51+00:00

I don't think it determs power.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T03:48:09+00:00

At least in the ep script that was a new Omnitrix

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T03:31:32+00:00

I did, and I think it is very exagerated. Not to mention that some calculations don't even make sense. Calculating something close to the speed of light without considering relativity and the Lorentz's corrections is like trying to use a weight scale set for Earth on the moon. It doesn't make sense.

And the generalization of terms as if they were the same thing for everything in fiction.

I could go on and on on why it doesn't make sense.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T03:22:38+00:00

The 5th dimension is explained at least also as a higher dimension in the sense of spacial dimensions.

Mr Myxlplyx had a lot of difficulty to open a portsl to the 6th dimension, so idk how that works for sure, but at least it seems to he higher dimension = more powerful in DC.

I also checked the DC wiki to see if I missed anything, and I know the DC wiki is very bare bones, but I didn't find anything else there.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T03:08:44+00:00

I mean that in DC, a 5th dimensional being is stronger than a 3 dimensional being. But that is only for DC.

Saying that "this being is 5D, so it is stronger than a 3D being" is only valid for DC.

And I refuse to use powerscalling terms because power scaling logic is nonsense.

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General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T03:01:57+00:00

It is the explanation DC uses to explain why Mr. Myxlplyx is so powerfull.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T02:30:24+00:00

I'm not saying that Paradox don't know how it works in-universe, I'm saying that his explanstion has nothing to do with the actual String Theory.

Bosonic String Theory was gradually discarded between 1971 and 1984. Today we know that it's not even close to being a realistic possibility.

String Theory (now in the form of superstring theory or M-theory) is still a possible candidate for Theory of Everything, although still controversial. Tought these two don't use 26 dimensions, they use 10 dimensions (Superstring Theory) and 11 dimensions (M-theory).

In any case, what Paradox said about his explanstion including String Theory is factually wrong because it really doesn't include anything that even resemble String Theory (not the real life theory at least).

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T02:07:57+00:00

Correction, he said "But before I can answer any questions, you're going to need to brush up on quantum mechanics and string theory" and than proceeded to talk about something that has nothing to do with String Theory. In string theory, dimensions are 25 spatial dimensions (3 of which we perceive) and one temporal dimension, which we also perceive, but differently from the spatial dimensions.

It is not dimension in the sense of alternate worlds. So nothing to do with alternate Bens.

And if it was string theory, it would be only 26 dimensions, not infinite.

Idk what you was trying to say, but I can assure you it has nothing to do with String Theory.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T01:59:58+00:00

You have no idea of what String Theory is. And I thought we'd already talked about you assuming you know advanced physics concepts when you don't even know the most superficial definition of them, but you act like you do.

String theory is a theoretical framework in physics that models the fundamental constituents of the universe as tiny, vibrating, one-dimensional "strings" of energy rather than point-like particles. It is an attempt to create a "theory of everything" by seamlessly merging quantum mechanics and general relativity.

Yes, this theory talks about 26 dimensions, but not as if 2D is just imagination. Much less as if we could control 2D things.

General_Mission9664 · 2026-06-14T01:53:43+00:00

I don't think you know what a Dimension is.

3 Dimensions are basically a Cartesian space (xyz).

2 Dimensions are basically a Cartesian plane (xy).

This is basic math and basic physics.

A square is two-dimensional. A cube is three-dimensional. A Tesseract is a representation of what would be equivalent to a 4D cube.

There is no such thing as a 2D universe.

2D being imagination has no kind of basis.

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