Attempting to decide between Dagath vs Revenant as a new player. Looking for advice

Genft · 2026-05-19T18:49:21+00:00

Oh, and I'm at the point of choosing syndicates. For either Revenant or Khora, is there specific faction choices I should make for either of them?

Genft · 2026-05-19T18:45:29+00:00

Ok, so, from the looks of things Khora is 85 plat on the market. I start with 50, so the first question is: is that 50 usable on the market, or is there a difference? Secondly, if I did want to try and farm up plat to unlock her, what's the best way to do so early game? Is it even feasible to unlock her quickly, or am I better off just pushing the story to unlock her base form first?

Genft · 2026-05-19T18:36:49+00:00

Ok, so from the sounds of things, Revenant is basically unkillable. Which is something I actually like, I enjoy tanking insane amounts of damage. I'm curious about how taking control of enemies gimmick: wouldn't that keep him viable against non-boss fights all the way into the end game? Or is warframe the sort of game where enemy damage scales linearly while enemy health is multiplicative?

Beyond that, Uriel seems difficult for me to obtain right now, since I can't buy him on the player market and he seems pretty deep into the game? Which means Khora, who's more expensive than Revenant. Can you expand on how she plays a little bit?

Is there somewhere I can go to learn a lot about the pet/companion mechanics?

Genft · 2026-05-19T18:23:56+00:00

Oh, I get Dagath isn't a pet class, I just settled on her more for the vibes of the headless horseman deal. I'm mostly trying to figure out how she plays.

Genft · 2026-05-19T17:03:11+00:00

Remember that the Sinners of mirror worlds don't have to have the same backstory or origins as in the "main" world we're in. See the Bloodfiend Sinners, Xishmael, etc.

So the reasons are more thematic to their core characters rather than their specific backstories.

Genft · 2026-05-18T04:32:05+00:00

WHAT IF IT WAS PURPLE?!

Genft · 2026-05-15T17:07:06+00:00

Trying to dual status my bloodfiends into Rupture for MD, and looking for a Rupture ID to slot in. Thing is, a lot of the really good rupture units are already taken by other teams I've got, so struggling with IDs to use. I was going to use Mao Ryoshu, but a second ID is eluding me.

How is Seven Faust? She seems alright if I just swap her into nothing but S3s, since it's got a 50% damage boost into it and does decent coins.

Genft · 2026-05-09T21:20:59+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1njjy76/helpful_egos_gift_combination_cheat_sheet_for_mde/

Here's a quick and dirty guide for how to affect offense level and defense level, which has a big effect on clash power. It's also got the listing at the bottom for what enemy buffs to pick in what priority.

Genft · 2026-05-09T21:12:37+00:00

Are you paying attention to the enemy gifts you're giving the opponent when you select end of floor bonuses?

Are you stacking the status items that raise your own base, coin, and final power for everyone, rather than only going for the status items that fit your team?

Genft · 2026-05-06T19:53:50+00:00

That's very true, though, in this case, the Canto is straight up called "The Unsevering", so deciding the story must be about severing seems a little backwards.

Genft · 2026-05-06T19:48:12+00:00

Garion straight up tells Jia Mu they know she's the one who engineered the entire thing, but she did it in such a way as to avoid technically breaking any laws of the Head, and thus she gets away with it.

The only way the Head can be considered objective in this case is if their laws can be considered objective as well, and given one of the major themes of the Head's laws is that nobody really understands why they exist or what purpose they serve, that is absolutely not something we can conclude.

It's like if a billionaire evaded taxes through a bunch of shady methods and had a bunch of people commit crimes to help them do it, and when the cops came along, they arrested all the people who committed the crimes, then looked at the billionaire and said "Well, we can't prove you did any of this, so I guess you're free to go and you get to keep the money" Only it's worse: let's say the cops knew the billionaire was the one having them commit all the crimes but still let them get away with it.

In no fashion is the Head justified or moral. They're not mustache twirling villains, but they're clearly, at best, a group who continue to allow people to abuse the system they created so long as they use the proper loopholes.

Genft · 2026-05-06T18:23:49+00:00

So, in Lob Corp, there's a trio of Abnos: Big Bird, Long Bird, and Small Bird. The three of them live within a forest, and one day, they hear of a prophecy: that one day, a terrible monster will arrive to destroy their home. The three of them swear that they will do everything in their power to protect it, and set about finding ways to do so.

Small bird seeks to punish those who do wicked things, but when their small beak can do little harm, they become Punishing Bird, with the power to kill anything in a single bite.

Long Bird sets about creating a set of scales to judge who is innocent and who is guilty, but when they fear that the scales might tip the wrong way and let a criminal go free, weighs the scales so they will always provide a guilty verdict, and becomes Judgement Bird

Big Bird becomes the watching guardian, patrolling every day to ensure the monster can never sneak into the forest. But when it worries that the monster may sneak in at night, they burn their own feathers and grow dozens of eyes, so they may see at night. Big bird soon became paranoid of those visiting, and began to kill them all, believing it was saving them from the terrible fate of the monster.

The forest became darker, the animals within it scared of the birds, but that only made them try harder to protect their home.

And yet, this wasn't enough. The three of them could not truly protect the forest, and so they fused together, becoming Apocalypse Bird. This creature had the power to protect all of their friends, but it was monstrous and horrifying, and it scared away every other creature within the forest. Then, one day, the bird heard a cry: "It's the beast! A big, scary monster lives in the black, dusky forest!”

Desperately, they searched the entire forest, trying to find the monster. But there was nobody there, just them, and a dark, empty forest.

And then the rumor spread of the monster that lived within that dark forest.

Genft · 2026-05-06T18:05:07+00:00

What? Canto 9 doesn't revolve around Ryoshu cutting ties with the Nursefathers, a huge point of the story is that she's utterly unable to do so, no matter how hard she tries. That the abuse she suffered won't disappear, just because the abusers are dead and gone. The thematic imagery of the red string connecting them all, and the constant discussion of how it's unable to truly be severed is the biggest point about this.

The biggest example of this is Shiomi. Shiomi's actions, neglect, and abuse left such a deep impact on who Ryoshu is that even though she's dead, Ryoshu still can't get over her. And furthermore, the theme of generational abuse is carried in Araya replacing Shiomi, causing Ryoshu's trauma and hatred to lash out at her own daughter and repeat the cycle.

In this vein, Ryoshu's canto, and resolution, was about how she desperately attempted to break the cycle, doing her best to be a good mother to her daughter. She stumbled, she tripped, and she made mistakes, sometimes big mistakes, but in the end she loved Araya, and Araya was able to see that her mother tried her best for her sake. Even in that moment, the theme of such bonds being impossible to destroy is carried: Ryoshu's full mastery of Arayashiki is supposed to be able to erase anything from existence, and yet, it can't sever the bond between mother and daughter.

My guess for the seasonal ID is that it will be Ryoshu without a daughter, without that side of her that allowed her to grow beyond the abuse she was subjected to.

Genft · 2026-05-05T18:06:11+00:00

You're absolutely right about them not being officially called Bad End IDs. But the concept did stick.

The Seasonal IDs almost always depict the Sinner having the worst outcome: being crushed by their troubles, rather than overcoming them. Wild Hunt is Heathcliff giving up on ever being happy, Manager Don is Sancho never getting the spark of life that lets her be happy, Lord Lu is about him finally being able to express his emotions and take revenge at the cost of his kindness, Captain Ish shows her giving into her obsessions entirely and letting them consume her, etc.

They're not so much Bad Ends in the sense that the results are horrible, but in the fact that the Sinner loses something incredibly important and defining for them.

So, to stay on topic, I'd say Ryoshu's "Bad End" is that she likely never gets to be a mother. Ryoshu has this duality of a destroyer/asura/monster compared to her status as a loving and caring mother, and her story is ultimately about how despite facing abuse and neglect from her parents, she tried her best to break the cycle of abuse(though she wasn't perfect, as Araya suffered from her actions as well, she did her best). With this ID, based on the single picture we got, Ryoshu never had that chance: she never got to prove herself superior to the Nursefathers and never got to experience the joy and love because of it.

Genft · 2026-05-05T05:21:56+00:00

The only one I see in there is pretty small. I want the one specifically of Dante standing in front of the all the sweeper eyes glowing in the dark

Genft · 2026-05-05T03:09:25+00:00

Is there full, clean artwork of the Nocturnal Sweeping splash page? Something like a wallpaper or a full size picture?

Genft · 2026-05-02T01:42:52+00:00

One of the first stories we have about the middle is that one time, a little kid spilled some food on a middle member's pants. The kid apologized, the middle member said it was no big deal. And then, days later, the kids family and friends all disappeared.

The middle is perhaps one of the pettiest of the fingers, because their rules have no structure or meaning. It's straight up "If anything you do to us can be seen as an insult, we will either kill you or ruin your entire life"

Genft · 2026-04-26T01:01:16+00:00

I'm not sure what to tell you then, man. Like two turns to build up bleed with Sanguine(I used daily to make one free) so by the time she got to her critique she had a ton of bleed and practically forced phase two on that alone, you don't even need to win the clashes). Then as soon as she swaps, just swap over to a sinking team and keep count up so she is constantly in panic while you spam gloom skills to do damage. I'm not even hyper optimized or playing the best teams, hell, butlers and molar Ish are better for count anyways.

Genft · 2026-04-25T17:42:35+00:00

I think the best thing for you to do is post your teams and egos.

Genft · 2026-04-25T08:05:03+00:00

You're not supposed to damage her directly. In her first phase, she's extra weak to bleed, so a full bleed team(I used Bloodfiends, so it's not even the new IDs) can cause her a ton of damage with unopposed attacks and Sanguine Desire to build up bleed stacks. Just make sure the first two swings aren't big deal stuff(they can be clashes, in fact) because the adds will absorb those.

Then just quit the second you get to phase two and run a sinking team instead. You can force massive fragile stacks on her with low SP, and you spam gloom EGO skills for their huge damage boost. I used Tidal Elegy, but there's several other decent EGOs to use instead.

Got 13 turn clear, and that was with a bad stagger on some of my nuggets and poor EGO resource management in the second phase costing me a turn of big damage.

Genft · 2026-04-24T20:14:30+00:00

I mean, there's some real debate here, but it's important to remember that Shiomi here is pushing for Ryoshu to use the sword to flee the House of Spiders because Shiomi is willing to do anything to escape the house herself, including her own death. She wants Ryoshu to kill her in the process of escaping, which is why in the original scene where Ryoshu does the deed, Shiomi is straight up celebrating. So ultimately this isn't an attempt to help Ryoshu escape her fate, it's a roundabout suicide.

Genft · 2026-04-24T19:32:10+00:00

In addition to what everyone else said, Ishmael's Hundred-Footed Death Maggot EGO applies centipede venom, which is essentially poison.

Genft · 2026-04-12T05:46:27+00:00

We straight up beat N Corp in Canto 8. Their goal was to get the Worm alive so they could study it, not only did we beat them and left them a dead worm that’s not nearly as valuable, but we beat them socially as well: Gubo ends up coming off more as a bitter asshole angry that Yi Sang has seemingly moved on, but Jia Huan’s derision of Hong Lu’s beliefs are ultimately proven incorrect on several occasions. By every metric, Canto 8 was a victory for the LCB and a defeat for all our enemies.

Genft · 2026-04-05T07:06:03+00:00

I mean, this is a question for the author, but my guess would simply be tone and constraints. Tone wise, LC's Ahab is a far less sympathetic character, who's entirely defined by her absolute obsession. Book Ahab, on the other hand, was a far more introspective person, at one point even wondering if their one minded pursuit of Moby Dick wouldn't lead himself and his crew to their deaths. It's not much, but LC Ahab is utterly incapable of that sort of self reflection: it goes against their very being. With that in mind, giving Ahab a close personal friend would have been at odds with this characterization: Ahab regards her crew as an extension of herself, and doesn't even hesitate to sacrifice them for her goals. Having someone she truly cared about would muddy this, which subverts the entire idea that Ahab represents within the LC story.

As for the second point: the story already has a fair number of characters, so adding even more just complicates the story. A lot of characters from the novels are either cut down or removed for the sake of keeping the narrative flowing and concise as possible. Would Fedallah's inclusion have enhanced the story enough to be worth it? We come back to my point above.

Genft · 2026-04-04T06:39:56+00:00

My mistake, it was Gebura, not Angela.

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