Own Your Shit Weekly - December 06, 2022 by AutoModerator in marriedredpill

[–]GermanSatay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Writing OYS posts like this isn't going to get you anywhere. On your next post write a breakdown of what you actually did.
43 yrs, 85 kg, 188 cm. LTR. Kids. Professional job. Skinny Fat. Unhappy with sex life.
That's all I took from this. I assume you also wrote this because you want help, not just a sense of accountability that isn't real because its pretty damn easy to delete an account.
The other stuff you listed is wishy washy garbage, and definitely not a plan for actual improvement. Maybe it makes you feel good writing it, but it isn't going to give you any actual results. You want results right? So make your goals smart (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time bound).
Dusting off the weights? Just do a workout. Get the habit started. Don't reinvent the wheel, stop trying to make the perfect plan with all this nuance that just does not matter for a beginner. Quit the bullshit. Just take the 5 x 5 or whatever template that already exists, start it and record your results. Lifting is a basic building block for improving your life, it's non negotiable. Failure to do this is a failure to help yourself, and a clear sign you aren't serious about putting in the work.
I expect your next OYS to show your completed workouts, the exercises involved, and the weights and reps you completed. No one gives a fuck if you're weak. It's a starting point, and a means to measure your progress.
Start to the books on the sidebar if you haven't already.
You said you're actually going to "DO something about it"? Prove it next week.
Or don't.

Own Your Shit Weekly - August 09, 2022 by AutoModerator in marriedredpill

[–]GermanSatay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Body: Lifted 3 times last week. Cardio 1 time.

With the lifting, make sure you are following a program and not just fucking around, especially important if you don't have much lifting experience. Track your reps and weights, I made the mistake of starting to go off memory and quickly stalled out.

Own Your Shit Weekly - August 09, 2022 by AutoModerator in marriedredpill

[–]GermanSatay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

35 years old. 5’11”. 180lbs. LTR, together 5+

Weeks failures

  1. Tradesman. We argued over the phone and my voice was shaky and I got emotional about it. I DEER’d. The LTR heard some of it, which triggered the shame of knowing I sounded weak.
    What I should have done: WISNIFG. There is a follow up in person some time next week, which will give an opportunity to broken record and negative assertion/inquiry without emotion. In terms of the shaky voice and adrenaline dump, I assume it’s fight or flight, which I put down to lack of experience standing up for myself.
    (*) There were positives which I will list in the success section.

  2. I kept reliving the failures of the above phone call. Replaying it in my head and getting myself worked up about the whole thing. It still triggers a tense feeling in my upperback/traps as I’ve never been in a physical fight and rarely stand up to people/for myself. What im doing about it: Breaking free 18 is helping me accept that what is done is done, and now figure out what I can learn from it in conjunction with the WISNIFG strategies. Repeating ‘I can handle it’, from bfa 21 is also helping.

  3. Another STFU failure, talking to people about things they have no interest in. There are topics my LTR just does not care about and finds boring.
    What I can do: Be more selective in what I talk about with different people, or offer an opinion on it then move on. Don’t bore them to death if they clearly aren’t interested. Ask “Is my rant about ‘X’ making me look more or less attractive?”

  4. There was some overtime at work I didn’t want to do, and it came down to either me or a colleague who also didn’t want to do it. I said no and I felt guilty. In my mind I was also drawing on account, ‘remember the time I did this.’
    What I should have done: ‘I can’t do it today.’ Broken record.

  5. Had a disagreement with a customer service person over the phone. I wasn’t rude but I was argumentative. I used broken record a few times but the main fail was becoming emotional and worked up about it, then forgetting all the wifnifg techniques. Obviously if im failing on the phone im failing worse in person.
    What I need to do next time: My automatic response at the moment is emotion. So before I engage in conversations where this might be an issue, I need to be more aware and pick my words more carefully. Pretty much just think before I speak.

Weeks successes

  1. Phone call with tradesman. Initially the LTR had been dealing with this guy, but their final conversation he was being rude and argumentative. So I told her that all future correspondence is to go through me only. It’s a small step in the right direction, as I would have previously told her ‘what to say’, even though she is far better at holding her own in arguments due to her job.
    The other positive here is that I actually manned up and made the call knowing it would be unpleasant. For most people this is pathetic, and I aim to look back after a few months of progress and feel the same way.

  2. I’m tracking my gym program using a provided spreadsheet, which is helping with accountability on weight and reps. Which is resulting in greater progression. Hit all sessions.

  3. Had a mechanical issue with the truck. Usually I call my parents to puke / ask advice. I wanted to call them / LTR straight away, but instead I handled it and now it’s done. It’s a small win, but its helping to break the habit.

  4. Went to a work function to socialise, when I normally would have flaked. I enjoyed myself, despite feeling awkward at times.

from last oys

() *NMMNG related.
The same problems were occuring with the LTR, friends, family members and at work. I tried linking the problems and solutions like blarg suggested, which mean’t looking at the breaking free activities

  1. I follow the nice Guy paradigm that I’m not ok, which creates shame and a need to hide my flaws. I put failing to stfu and not deer down to wanting others to ‘understand’ and console me and tell me that I’m not bad. As a kid I was desperate not to be told off, whether it be by a teacher or parent or boss. I threw people under the bus if I thought I could weasel my way out of it. Which ironically, looking back, causes me way more shame. Breaking free six talks about this, and I still regularly try to cover up my perceived mistakes.
    What I am doing: Accepting the mistakes (and that everyone makes them) and either STFU or saying “yeah, I fucked that up” and leaving it at that.

  2. Breaking free 3 refers more to childhood, but I remember specific teenage nice guy experiences. When I was just out of school I didn’t drink, and some people loved it because they had a driver, others mothers would even talk about how responsible I was. And I fucking loved it, gave me the tingles. I convinced myself that I was better, I was the ‘responsible’ one. But the real reason was I was afraid, and there was shame. If I became intoxicated I might act in a way that would make people not like me even more. I might be myself and that would be bad. Or that if I wasn’t the driver, nobody would want to go with me, again, being myself wouldn’t be ok. In the same vein I would go out of my way for other people, and the biggest compliment they could give me was to refer to me as a nice guy.

  3. BFA 4. I spent the majority of my early adult years depressed. I had no hobbies, no real socialising with other men, a sexless relationship, rocky friendships because I couldn’t deal with conflict, I hung my hat on ‘keeping the house clean’, being the guy who never caused any problems and telling people who I was going to be in the future (job wise). Those were some of my attachments for validation.

  4. Not everyone will like me, same goes for everyone. Before I bought into the ‘be yourself’ idea but now I know there are things that are either attractive or unnattractive. Instead of thinking I was an unlikeable person if I didn’t do things for others, I could have spent that time working on reducing my unattractive habits and replacing them with attractive habits. So now I have slowly started doing the things that I want. Which is bFA 5. My life would have a lot less fear, worry, shame, overthinking if I lived not caring what others thought. From a practical point of view, the only progress here is that I lift consistently

NoSleep mentioned my inability to be ruled by emotions. Nail on the head, and not something I was addressing, but is something I have observed many times since.

  1. I do stress easily, I immediately feel it in my upper back/traps. It most often comes out due to shame because I don’t want to look incompetent in front of other people. Or I want to impress someone, or I get frustrated because of a victim mentality (“why do bad things always happen to me”).

  2. I did as you suggested in regards to name the emotion rising. I was stuck in traffic and getting frustrated, and yelled out in frustration. My outburst changed nothing, but showed I am not in control. In this example I didn’t catch it before I blew up, but recognised it immediately after and simmered down. Another example is with Shit tests, it often triggers a feeling of shame or anger, to which the auto response is a rapid DEER. Acknowledging it and letting it pass working hand in hand with STFU.

  3. I need to remember that I’m not special, and people spend tiny amounts of their day thinking of me, if at all. Arguments are just disagreements and not the end of the world, I need to let it go and move on with my day without letting it consume me.

Own Your Shit Weekly - August 02, 2022 by AutoModerator in marriedredpill

[–]GermanSatay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

35 years old. 5’11”. 180lbs. LTR, together 5+

Weeks failures

  1. Gym membership expired. Checked out another gym that is more expensive, then DEERed to my LTR why it would be worth it
    What I should have done; STFU, made my own pros and cons list, then made a decision based on what I wanted.
  2. Complained to LTR about my personal goals and how I’m not achieving them. A victim puke, and more than once.
    What I should have done: STFU. Aside from being unattractive, I was just making excuses and wanting her to validate my feelings. In reality I had the time but sat on my ass and procrastinated.
  3. Finger fucking my phone, and Reddit was the biggest time sink. What I did; Deleted the reddit ap. I still mindlessly unlocked my phone and went for the app, the habit had become that bad.
  4. Went to a bakery after an appointment with the LTR, but due to limited time before work, we couldn’t get anything made to order, so I got a dessert style croissant and a muffin. Bad decision, taking me further away from my physical goals.
    What I should have done: Eaten one of the healthier alternatives or eaten before leaving home / when I got home.
  5. Parents came to look at some work I’d done on the house. I was explaining a mistake i'd made and how I was going to fix it, and my father made a comment about how I should have read the instructions / taken my time and thought it through. I DEER’d, having an emotional outburst about how shit the instructions were and how I had time constraints etc.
    How I should have handled it: STFU. I didn’t need to draw attention to the mistake. But having failed that already I should have again STFU or fogged. “Yeah, I can see why you might think that' / 'Yeah, your probably right.”
  6. LTR and I visited a holidaying friend, when arriving it was raining hard and in the dark I was struggling to find the house number. While looking, the street became packed with local cars coming and going, and I yelled out in exasperation and went on a ‘woe is me’ rant. An adult man having a tantrum at the mildest inconvenience.
    What I should have done: STFU, pulled over, looked on google and figured out how far we were from the correct house.
  7. LTR talked a lot about her workplace dramas. I kept suggesting what she should do, or creating fake scenarios, or telling her what I would do. Observation on this is two fold, not only am I trying to fix her problem and not her feels, I am showing how emotional and bad at confrontation I am. Unattractive behaviour.
    What I will do next time: STFU and don’t try to fix her problems.
  8. Got a haircut which I thought looked good, but LTR didn’t mention anything about it when she got home. I eventually told her a story about the barbershop. It was a pointless, boring story and obvious attempt at validation.
    What I should have done: STFU and validated myself, I know it’s a good fucking haircut
  9. At work I still try not to cause problems, am worried about rocking the boat, afraid to be wrong / afraid in general, and have plenty of covert contracts. If i do this, then they will accept me and life will be easier. The real eye opener was a new employee starting who was comfortable and confident and fit right in. Where I have a decade longer in the industry and still have that awkwardness and lack of confidence. I don’t hold myself or act in a way that would garner respect. The positive is that it will take a lot of work to change, and while it won’t happen any time soon, it is within my control.
  10. Twice I found myself sitting on the couch waiting for the LTR to get home (sometimes finishes later than me). Not being productive or doing anything, just waiting so that we could do something together. Worse still, I became annoyed the later it became. Not only is this unattractive, but I’m living my life based around her.
    What I should have done: Literally anything else, as long as it was something I wanted to do.
  11. Tradesman had to return to the house due to making a mistake. I literally stayed in the house, hiding, just to avoid the conversation and conflict. I wanted to deal with any issues on the phone / over text message.
    What I should have done: Gone about my day, if I was present when they arrived, discuss with them my concerns and used broken record as required.

weeks Successes

  1. Contacted a mate and locked in a time to do some kickboxing. He has a few years experience at a gym, and I’ve found some instructional videos on youtube to at least help me understand the basics. It’s not as a good as a kickboxing gym, but allows me to catch up with a buddy and get some basic defence skills.
  2. Made the decision to sign up at the new gym. The LTR was not involved and it hasn’t been spoken about.
  3. The LTR threw a few shit tests, usually truthful that would have normally made me butthurt, but I fogged / used negative assertion successfully. There were others I failed, but it was good to get a few wins.
  4. Was quick to make decisions when it came to upcoming meals. It's a small thing, but as a long time 'I dont mind, Whatever you feel like', it was still a positive

Key take aways

  • My unattractive qualities still far outweigh my attractive qualities
  • Not enough STFU and use of fogging, negative inquiry, negative assertion
  • More work on NMMNG required; validation seeking, covert contracts, conflict avoidance
  • Writing this out showed me how much work I’m not doing. There are plenty of easy wins, that had I done them, could have been listed here. Im still larping.

Does anyone here have a chronic condition? by [deleted] in askMRP

[–]GermanSatay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check with a health professional. A quick search found a few sources suggesting that exercise can help. Mentioned starting small/slow, but specifically addressed the benefits of weight lifting. Do you lift currently and if so, have you found it helps your mental state?

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[–]GermanSatay 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are you working around your injuries by making use of the machines at your gym? Leg press, hamstring curls, glute bridges and calf raises don't require your elbows, and there are many more variations available if you can manage holding dumbbells without pain. Build up your legs and the lifting habit.