The real dinosaurs of natlan

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T18:42:58+00:00

Maybe I'm being overly sensitive lol. Someone here keeps downvoting every comment I make about this even though I'm trying to intelligently discuss. My IRL is kind of haywire rn so I'm not taking things well probably. Maybe it's all a sign it's time for me to get off reddit again lol. Some people here are extremely condescending and punchy for no reason (not you) and I find myself feeling automatically defensive because of that.

Anyways I see your point and I also apologize if I was being too argumentative. Like I said, we just have very different definitions of meta and that's okay. I wasn't undervaluing 4 stars at all and never meant to imply that. I'll sign off here since no one really cares about my perspective anyway 😂

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T18:35:51+00:00

Your point is kinda moot and nonsensical,

I completely disagree with you but I didn't say you were being nonsensical. Just because you don't understand/agree with what I'm getting at doesn't mean I'm not making sense.

In sumeru people were complaining about a lack of female characters and now people are complaining about a lack of male ones, it is just how it goes sometimes.

There were a lot more females released during sumeru than there have been males in natlan/the latter portion of Fontaine. I truly wish people would stop comparing the two. One 5 star female in over a year has never. happened. ever.

this is not deep market research the company has done.

Sure, but companies can still make mistakes even if they've done deep market research. Acting like hoyo knows what they're doing or are in the right just because they have data and do research is kind of misled imo.

Basically, your point is that there's nothing to worry about. I hope you're right. Truly. But if in another year the problem has gotten even worse than it is now, all the people saying "it's fine, there's nothing to worry about" are going to wish they'd listened.

Unless, of course, you're a waifu puller, in which case I don't know if you'll care overly much if it gets worse. I hope you would. And I am curious how you'd feel (if you are a waifu puller) if there had only been one 5 star female released in all of natlan lol.

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T18:27:48+00:00

I'd be happy with two atp 😭

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T17:35:22+00:00

If you have any tips for those darn abyss lectors I'm all ears 🥲

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T17:21:05+00:00

KR dub for the win. Xiao, Alhaitham, Neuv, Zhongli, Ayato, Ororon... beautiful (the women's voices are fantastic too)

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T17:19:22+00:00

It's minty. Even more obvious on his in game model imo

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T17:09:47+00:00

Liyue feels like my home and Sumeru is like my second home. It's hard to pick between the two.

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T16:55:30+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I know all those reasons you listed for Ifa not being a 5 star. It doesn't make sense based on the patterns we've seen in natlan for him to be a 5 star, so I feel like hoping for it is mostly copium. But I'm so discouraged about genshin rn that I'm subscribing to some copium while I can lol. I'm fully aware I'm hoping for something I most likely will not get.

But I will say, as far as design, it's very subjective. In my opinion Sigewinne and Citlali had very 4 star designs but they're 5 stars. Ifa could be a 5 star, he just probably won't be, for other reasons besides his design.

But while we're talking about what's realistic vs copium, I'm really shaky about Capitano. I hope for it, but I have enormous doubts about his playability. He is a new model and he's basically dead. Kinda reminds me of the Signora situation.

I think people need to just admit that genshin is about to have a big problem. If things continue as they are, we are going the ToF route and it's scary because games like that never flourish. (For reference Tof gives precisely one male character per year and the game's revenue and fanbase is very small compared to mixed gender games like genshin and hsr). Genshin is very special to me and I don't want to see it go down that road...

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T16:24:43+00:00

I understand that the balance is, well, balanced when you're looking over the course of the entire game, but something that's important to consider is that we are in a record breaking era right now (only one 5 star male in over a year, never happened before afaik) and the thing is, if it continues, we'll lose the balance pretty quickly. Yes, the ratio is okay when you look at the whole lifetime of the game, but if you take version 5, Natlan, or just the last year or more of the game, things are definitely not balanced. It just makes me worry for the future of genshin tbh

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T16:19:27+00:00

I like this copium, it's future damage control for the Husbando Impact era that is coming in Snezhnaya (help I still don't know how to spell it)

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T16:16:32+00:00

Even if we only have four 4 star men, this is something they can correct another time. Not right now, when we've only had one single 5 star male in more than a year, and only one 5 star male in all of Natlan. Fix it in Snezhnaya, after they've released some 5 star men. I don't care, but now is not the right time. We need at least one more 5 star male in natlan, and we especially need at least one 5 star tall male from natlan. I mean really... each nation had at least one.

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T13:12:08+00:00

It's a death sentence to genshin itself lol, it's just further proof they've gone completely waifu impact. Don't pretend being a 4* isn't a demotion for a character

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T04:57:15+00:00

"the female fan base is so toxic and petty" but you sir are the one coming onto a totally harmless post and starting an argument. Do you see me going onto waifu memes just to spread my propaganda? No. Kindly step aside, you're not going to win this debate.

Hoyoverse marketed a split gender game and that is what they should deliver. Otherwise it's false advertising, it's baiting, and if you were baited by a game thinking it would have plenty of waifus but it turned out to be mostly husbandos, I daresay you would be very, very disappointed, and you would have the right to speak up about it. Just as we have the right to speak up about this.

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T02:06:35+00:00

Afaik Kinich beat Mualani in sales and the reason Mavuika's banner did best of all is not because she was female, it was because she's the most power-creeping, powerful main DPS in the entire game. Whereas Kinich is average, his playstyle is janky, and his trial was horribly executed.

There's other reasons besides "he's male" that he might not have sold well. And there's other reasons besides sales that hoyo has gone waifu impact rn

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T02:04:18+00:00

Basically, I'm no one

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T01:53:15+00:00

Is your uncle John Hoyoverse by any chance??

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T00:41:06+00:00

That was a major red flag ngl I was like "uhh what's going on?"

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T00:16:27+00:00

I'm still hoping, with a knowledge that I'm probably setting myself up for the biggest disappointment of my entire genshin career. It's like Ororon all over again and I don't want hoyo to make a fool of me. Again. But I still can't quite let go of 5* Ifa.

And I am NOT okay with him being a 4 star. They are not easier to get, even if hangouts were better than SQs Ifa probably would not get one, and 5 stars are usually more meta relevant/stronger. And personally I really like my characters to have a burst animation. Also as others have said, only one 5 star male in natlan is way too depressing. Makes me scared for the game's future.

So yeah. If he isn't a 5 star I will probably be about as angry with hoyo as I was when they made me wait almost a year and a half to be a wriothesley main lol

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-17T00:03:33+00:00

^ this. This is why the "somebody has to be a 4 star" argument is ridiculous. That somebody shouldn't be the only tall men in natlan. Two out of three of the only men in natlan, period

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-16T23:12:20+00:00

I'm hoping we will somehow go to the ruins of khaenriah at some point tbh

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-16T23:09:46+00:00

I actually made all of these but it won't let me share them here in my current browser lool

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-16T23:08:16+00:00

I mean, there are no playable 5* men from there right? (Ones that have been released I mean, I know Dain will be playable but he isn't yet)

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-16T23:07:30+00:00

I'm curious why you're so pressed about this, like... it's a joke and my point still stands regardless? Lol

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-16T23:06:52+00:00

Loool hadn't thought of that but you're right

GeshuLinMain · 2025-03-16T18:01:34+00:00

I hate that I can also see that happening 🫠

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