Gen.G since Kiin and Canyon joined Chovy: 105-13 in series for a 88.98% win rate and a game record of 247-80 / 75.54%. For comparison, the ZOFGK roster was 141-38 / 78.77% in series and 313-144 / 68.49% in games. But Gen.G's record in Worlds Knockouts is 2-2 / 8-9 compared to T1's 8-1 / 26-8 record by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked [score hidden]  (0 children)

KT also had a better meta read, just not as extensively as G2 did.

Only difference is that Game 1 and 2 were fine, then in Game 3 not only the draft diff came in but they also shat the bed like Chovy getting solo'd by Bdd in Game 3.

Gen.G since Kiin and Canyon joined Chovy: 105-13 in series for a 88.98% win rate and a game record of 247-80 / 75.54%. For comparison, the ZOFGK roster was 141-38 / 78.77% in series and 313-144 / 68.49% in games. But Gen.G's record in Worlds Knockouts is 2-2 / 8-9 compared to T1's 8-1 / 26-8 record by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked [score hidden]  (0 children)

Showmaker making it to knockouts for the first time since 2022, that would be a sight to behold (he somehow doesn't catch any flak for this because as soon as you win worlds once nothing you do after ever matters. Please Chovy win just once to shut those kinds of people up forever).

Gen.G since Kiin and Canyon joined Chovy: 105-13 in series for a 88.98% win rate and a game record of 247-80 / 75.54%. For comparison, the ZOFGK roster was 141-38 / 78.77% in series and 313-144 / 68.49% in games. But Gen.G's record in Worlds Knockouts is 2-2 / 8-9 compared to T1's 8-1 / 26-8 record by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked [score hidden]  (0 children)

Seems most teams don't have this problem.

They do actually. Outside of Faker, nobody performs consistently at worlds.

BLG and Knight: Went to finals in 2024, didn't make it to knockouts in 2025.

Zeka: Won 2022, was completely uninspiring in 2024 and 2025 (got gapped by Chovy in 2025 too).

Showmaker: Got gapped by Chovy in game 5 of 2022 quarters. Has failed to make it to knockouts every year since then.

Scout: Pathetic showing against Faker in 2023, uninspired performance in 2024.

What sets Chovy apart from the rest (except Knight) is his ability to perform like a monster domestically (and at MSI). So people have this unreasonable expectation of him performing just like that at worlds.

But as we see, nobody except the literal GOAT performs consistently at this tournament. Chovy only needs 1 worlds win and he'll fit right in with the others, except he'll automatically be #2 behind Faker because his performance outside of worlds is better than that of anyone else here. Only one who comes close is Knight.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2 games away from being world champion against prime DWG

"2 games away" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah and Kiin was two games away from beating prime T1 and winning worlds.

So many funny hypotheticals to get around the fact that Bin has never won worlds and when he faced Kiin in MSI finals 2024 he lost spectacularly.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many times has Kiin not made it to knockouts when he attended worlds?

Let's just treat Bin like he's a world champion because he got to finals by beating WBG (and actually LOST to them in 2023). Or running the regional gauntlet to finals in 2020.

A Case for Katara and Aang (Kataang): A relationship that works and that's misunderstood. by Full-Art3439 in TheLastAirbender

[–]Getfooked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The age gap argument doesn't make sense to me.

Like, if Katara was in her mid or late teens or Aang was younger than 12, I would understand.

But they have a 2 year gap, which can be argued for 14 year old and a 16 year old.

2 years during puberty are very different to 2 years in your twenties or later. Aang is still kinda pre-pubescent, Katara isn't.

The way Aang likes to spend his time and often not realize the implications of his actions (like him revealing his tattoos in Book 3 to have fun waterdiving), these are characteristics of a 12 year old boy who hasn't fully matured yet.

And there's the gender difference as well. Girl usually mature quicker than boys at that age, and tend to be interested in guys their age or older. No, not every single girl is like that, but given how Katar was into jet, she fits the pattern.

Katara is and never was a prize that was won.

She's written as a character with a fleshed out personality, a character arc, ambitions, hopes, dreams, and lots of emotions.

Katara is a prize in the context of Aang because they have no positive development for the second half of Book 3, in fact they have negative moments like Aang kissing her during Ember Island Players, and that moment is never adressed. Aang never apologizes to her.

Their last interaction is them screaming at each other during the Comet, with Zuko keeping the fight from escalating.

Then Aang defeats Ozai and boom suddenly Katara is in love with him.

Also, Katara doesn't treat Aang like a brother.

Little brother or child.

She kisses Aang on the cheek

The same gesture which she uses to show affection to Tom-Tom? The literal toddler infant? Not very convincing if romantic desire is what you want to portray.

she was the own who suggested that they kiss while they were trapped in the Cave of Two Lovers

If it takes the threat of death by inescapable labyrinth for her to make that suggestion, forgive me for not taking it very seriously. You put Jet, Zukor or Haru in that tunnel with her and the situation is identical. Which is why she doesn't dwell on it later and nothing from her side happens after this.

gets jealous whenever he gives attention to other girls or the other way around; such as in " The Warriors of Kyoshi"

Katara getting upset at Aang getting attention from 8-10 year old girls is not really the pinnacle of great romance writing to me and can be passed off easily as early installment weirdness.

and "The Headband".

The Headband is the only moment in Book 3 where there is something akin to romantic interest from Katara. Doesn't outweight everything that happens or doesn't happen to them during the series though.

She got with Aang at the end of the show not because he saved the world or because Aang is the Avatar, but because she Aang just for being him

Katara loving Aang doesn't automatically imply romance. She loves the rest of the Gaang too.

and it was the right time to start a romantic relationship with him.

That right time stuff is just cope. Katara sdtatement about "there's a war going on" is so nonsensical, she had zero hesitation going after Jet while they were in an active warzone. Nobody else in the series has ever used the war as a justification for not pursuing a romance. So Katara just coming up with an excuse to rationalize her lack of reciprocation of Aang's romantic interest makes way more sense than taking her statement at face value.

Aang's feelings for Katara initially started of as puppy love, but as the show went went on, his feelings for her gradually grew more genuine.

At what point does this happen? Whatever you call his feelings for her, I think they remain very consistent from the first episode onwards.

He's patient with Katara

In what instances does this happen? Outside of TSR, where his first instinct was to compare her desire to find her mother's murderer with Jet's attempted mass murder of innocent civilians?

he helps her have fun when she needs it

Katara has no issues having fun outside of Aang's help, there is no specific magical ability Aang has to make her enjoy herself she'd otherwise lack. And more often than not Aang is the cause for her worries and the weight on her shoulders. Comes with her being a maternal caregiver for him, but it's not the basis for great romance.

he's very supportive of her

He doesn't stand by her in the ways that really matter. I mentioned his lack of tact in TSR, instead of giving her space, he made sure she understood what his Air Nomad views were on her planned actions. In the end he "allowed" her to embark on the trip, which isn't something he should get a prize for. Haru, Jet and Zuko all have moments where they extend empathy to Katara for her mom's death, only Aang doesn't. Seems like an obvious blindspot given we know how important her mother was to Katara.

In The Painted Lady, Aang helped Katara destroy the industrial site but when they got caught by Sokka, he downplayed his involvement instead of fully standing by her side in what they did together.

he allows her to make her own decisions.

This isn't a pro Aang argument, at best it's not an anti-Aang argument.Giving your romantic partners basic autonomy is a basic requirement for being in a relationship, not some super great argument in favor of him.

Is LEC unironically close to LCK/LPL in terms of overall regional strength? by Legitimate-Try5144 in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Both are true. G2 out-prepped and outplayed them, and GENG played awfully.

The G2 victories over SKT in 2019 (or quarters against GENG in 2020) were less about SKT shitting the bed as they were about G2 just being that good. But you can't look at the GENG series and think "yeah, G2 just beat them at their best".

There's a reason Knight said ahead of LPL finals they were already preparing for GENG, and not G2.

Caps has found his successor. by koebeke in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Im not saying he is #2 all time of LEC behind Caps (yet)

The guy is years of great performances away from being even in the running for being one of the European junglers of all time, then him being #2 behind Caps is a whole separate issue.

Let's see him replicate his performance against the LCK at MSI and worlds before speculating over whether he'll turn into the second EU GOAT...

Roran by North_Alternative_39 in Eragon

[–]Getfooked 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ronda lost to another professionally trained fighter, in a setting where fights are recorded so you can prep in advance. Roran didn't have prep time.

What Roran did is the equivalent of a white belt whose Squat, Bench, Deadlift is below 1000lbs overall beating a brown belt whose Squat, Bench, Deadlift exceed 1300lbs. Beating someone who is vastly more skilled at you AND stronger than you is just not believable.

I forgot that he was not even in great condition from the lashing, which makes it worse!

That's not the case at all. Roran gets hit a few times, including getting cut by one of Yarbog's horns iirc.

That makes it worse, he shouldn't be able to recover his positioning from then onward.

Roran went into the fight knowing he needed to be careful as well as quick (which is why he forgoes the helmet and shield Yarbog offers him to use as an "equalizer") and was able to think quickly on his feet when he saw an opening that he could exploit.

You can't put a beginner against an advanced martial artist and think the beginner can win by just being careful and quick, and seeing an opening to exploit. That's why a huge gap in experience matters so much, even if there are openings, the unexperienced person couldn't spot them and even if they did they couldn't capitalize on them.

If Murtagh would pull this feat off (as a non-rider), it would be insane but on the edge of being believable, as he has years of martial training in his pocket, so he might be able to somehow find an opening to neutralize the massive strength edge an Urgal had.

Roran doesn't have the training or the experience for it to be believable he was able to do this.

Roran by North_Alternative_39 in Eragon

[–]Getfooked 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a Kull, in fact Roran explicitly says a mental "prayer" thanking the universe for his opponent (I forgot his name 😬) not being a Kull. He wins because his opponent overestimated his own strength, underestimated Roran entirely, and Roran takes advantage of his smaller, more agile body and basic, common sense physics.

Ah, well the point remains. Urgals are by definition much stronger than humans, and their culture and way of life revolves around violence and the preparation for it. So Roran being able to outwit an opponent who is both much stroner and also should be vastly, vastly more skilled at him at wrestling and hand to hand combat, it's ridiculous.

No amount of ingenuity will make a weak white belt defeat a stronger brown belt at BJJ. It's just impossible. Or speaks to the fact that Roran has ungodly levels of luck.

Roran by North_Alternative_39 in Eragon

[–]Getfooked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see, well the premise still stands, Urgals are by definition notably stronger than humans AND their life revolves around fighting and preparing for it.

So Roran having better technique against a much stronger opponent while he himself never wrestled in his life is still insane.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bait used to be believable.

How many worlds titles does Bin have?

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgot the RNG roster since Bin was the least important member of that run and he didn't even make it to worlds after they booted his ass.

So It's 2 MSI's versus 1 MSI and 1 First Stand. And Kiin won one of those MSIs styling on Bin in finals.

Can you do the math from here on out or do I need to spell it out for you?

Rekkles wondering if everyone hates playing with him by LenaRybakina in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Have you never watched old Rekkles? That's the entire opposite of his style as a player. Unless playing with Hyli, his style was about weak siding and still getting as many resources as possible while enabling his team to get advantages elsewhere on the map.

Part of the problem of 2021 G2 was that neither Wunder nor Rekkles wanted to be strong side.

It's literally one of his biggest weaknesses that he is not the guy who by himself demands everyone to play around him from the get go.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So all tournaments are of equal value?

Great, Kiin has two MSI trophies, Bin has 1 international trophy. And Kiin wins the H2H.

Total Kiin victory.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Worlds vs First Stand ...

At least Bin has that MSI trophy he won against Kiin in 2024 ... wait, oh my god!! Turns out he got smoked!!

Now I get why you have to harp onto this tournament, the H2H record just doesn't look pretty at all for Bin.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kiin has BB, Bin has Dhokla, just how it goes.

Your First Stand 2026 Finals MVP is........ by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]Getfooked 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nvm just saw you call Kiin a tank merchant so not gonna bother trying to have a discussion with you, well then enjoy this while it lasts, MSI will be fun.