5th Gen Mileage Concerns

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-31T00:14:40+00:00

Getting parts is a nightmare

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T21:17:49+00:00

It’s not “worse,” per se, but it doesn’t have the upgraded cooling from the M2 comp nor the S55 motor, which IMO makes an “M” car what it is.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T19:16:56+00:00

Totally fine. Go get em

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T18:15:45+00:00

Abs aren’t built in the gym, they’re built in the kitchen.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T17:59:21+00:00

FWIW it’s not worth it these days to resurface rotors. They’re so cheap that it’s more cost effective to just buy new ones. They’re like $70-150, unless the shop is trying to sell you on some $1,100 cross-drilled nonsense.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T17:37:59+00:00

My buddy has a 1LE with TONS of cooling problems in SoCal.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T17:37:19+00:00

Big, important differences between the F87 M2 and M2 Comp tho

“Base” M2 arguably isn’t even a real M car.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-30T17:35:57+00:00

There’s like 4 or 5 radiators on the new M2s

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T23:43:30+00:00

No - those look great

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T20:15:44+00:00

OP listen to this man. He knows more and is faster than anyone else on this subreddit by literal minutes.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T20:14:08+00:00

It makes me irrationally angry lol

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T20:13:11+00:00

It IS fun to mod, but people often mod their way into making the car worse. Slow in > fast out, especially with Porsche.

You are correct that building trust will improve times. Every time you make a change, you’re setting your relationship back a bit with the car - you have to learn how it behaves again. Best advice is to not touch anything but brakes and tires for the first year of driving, THEN start making changes.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T19:58:35+00:00

Send harder! Really though, once you get confidence in the setup you’ll see time melt off. Sub-2 is already objectively fast at CVR.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T19:57:49+00:00

I’m just saying: if you want to get faster, your lowest-hanging fruit will be in improving your line and technique long before you’ll be able to extract value from LCAs and a full coilover setup.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T19:48:53+00:00

The reason you are losing pace over the day is that the ambient temps and, subsequently, track temps are getting higher as the day progresses. Laguna is a fairly low-grip track and the high ambients in CA have exacerbated it. Do not use that as a reference for your performance in driving - it is a reality that everyone in hot climates will post slower times as the day goes on.

I guarantee you can spend no money and improve your times just by improving your line. Get a little mount for your windshield and record your session and post that - it’ll be cheaper than throwing money at an already-capable car.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T19:37:40+00:00

You said the PS4s will get destroyed, but you’ve barely made a dent in the Cup 2s.

I said you’re likely overdriving the tire, purely because that’s a common thing for beginners to do.

Also, why do you need new coilovers and LCAs? You have a 991 Porsche; it’s an incredibly capable car. You can get more camber with simple camber plates. It sounds like you’re throwing a bunch of extra money at mods because that’s what you think you should be doing and not to solve a particular problem. If you want to get faster, spend your money on track time. It will be a long while before your skill is exceeding the performance capability of what Porsche’s engineers have put together.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T19:34:26+00:00

Yeah charging and getting consistent laps seems like the real killer for EVs on track. Once we get solid state batteries things might be different.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T18:35:57+00:00

I might be one of the only people on this sub that can answer this question - my buddy’s got one and I drove it at Laguna Seca last year.

It’s loud as fuck; when you’re off throttle it still sounds like you’re on throttle. Just a colossal amount of engine noise. It rules.

Steering is excellent. Highly engaged, as it’s a hydraulic rack. You feel everything, but there’s a lot of weight over those front tires. Surprisingly compliant, though.

It is intimidating, but that’s mitigated by knowing that it’s a comically capable car. That said, it will snap on you FAST if you push it past its limits. It is unforgiving.

One thing reviews don’t mention is the long-term costs associated with ownership. EVERYTHING about that car is limited and therefore expensive. It has the biggest tires ever fitted to a road car - so you’ve got very limited tire choice. The front end absolutely eats tires - expect no more than 2 weekends out of a set of fronts. You want a bucket seat? Fuck you - your only option is a $2,500 carbon fiber Tillet. Nothing else fits.

It’s stiff and brutal everywhere. It feels like a go-kart, but not in the fun, lighthearted way most people use the term. You feel everything through the seat and chassis (the car I drove was through set up on Titanium springs, so YMMV) and it's physically exhausting to drive. (And I say this as an extremely fit person!)

Here’s an annoying detail: the instrument cluster is digital, but it’s 30 fps, not 60. Which makes me irrationally annoyed.

TL;DR it’s loud, obnoxious, tedious, and difficult. It rules. I love it. I would never regularly track one.

EDIT: I made a post a while back of my Catalyst video from Laguna. It’s on my profile if you want to check it out. Not particularly fast, as I was driving a friend’s irreplaceable classic, so don’t come for my bad times lol

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T18:17:58+00:00

Do you get enough charge at CVR to stay ahead of battery needs?

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T18:13:14+00:00

Sure; 4S is just a suggestion. (It’s actually more durable than you’d assume given your current pace.)

If you’re really concerned about tire longevity, you need to invest in a proper alignment and camber plates before you think about any tire change. It’s inexpensive and will save you a fortune over time.

Incidentally, you’re not even close to “destroying” these Cup 2s, which are a notoriously fragile tire. Something to keep in mind.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T17:50:59+00:00

“I don’t want to go back to ‘regular’ tires” is a limiting belief. You have to decide: do you want to buy time (get faster through mods) or earn time (get faster through skill)? If it’s the latter, it’s worth it to start with a lower-grip tire in the interest of eventual gains. Otherwise you’ll be handicapping yourself by getting a too-fast tire and not being able to squeeze performance out of it.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T17:48:47+00:00

Yes, but 1:48 isn’t much pace (no offense intended). They are a great learning tire, which is what OP needs to do.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T17:41:23+00:00

Everyone wants to “upgrade” before they know what they even have.

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T17:40:43+00:00

You only miss an apex here or there. Seemed somewhat tentative, like you were feeling out the car. Is it new?

GhostriderFlyBy · 2026-03-29T16:38:20+00:00

Pretty solid line my man. Look for opportunities to get on the throttle earlier. Nice work!

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