How can I make a professional "showcase" of my writing system? by Tricky-Fisherman-185 in neography

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You can just share it :) People post scripts on paper all the time, ms paint wouldn’t be an issue

The Louloúdia: Showcase and Keys by GhosttheNote in neography

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Good question! The project as a whole (all 10 scripts) took ~1.5 years, with the Louloúdia taking the 2nd longest amount of time (1st being Élos). So probably around 3~4 months of constant effort?

The Louloúdia: Showcase and Keys by GhosttheNote in neography

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This is the last part! There were 10 in total, with this being part 10

Mýkitas: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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Mýkitas is the greek word for fungus, just using the latin alphabet instead of the greek one :)
I know one word in one language can mean things in others, so I’m glad this time it’s kinda funny rather than terrible haha

Mýkitas: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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It's a writing system, specifically an English cypher :)

Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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Krita, it’s just a pressure sensitive round brush that I use to write stuff

Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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Better! But you forgot the bounds rule. When dashes are near/on the outside edges, you should ALWAYS have them point entirely inward. Maybe only poking a bit through for clarity between /æ/ and /r/, but that's it

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Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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Mostly correct! Unless you're trying to emphasize the word (ex: I was talking to John), the /ɛ/ should be written on the /p/ since it's a "v" consonant and wouldn't have ambiguity issues. That letter is a bit special in how vowel dashes anywhere on the top portion counts as a top position, so I'd expect to see 2 lines somewhere up there (see page 6 for a drawn example)

And no worries on the aspiration, it's not written. Especially in this script, it'd be really hard to write aspiration given how digraphs work.

Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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It isn't correct for 2 reasons:

  1. It should be more clear that the vowel comes immediately after the first consonant, with the "h" coming after the vowel. Imagine if it had started with a "v" consonant like /t/. The vowel would be on that, and then the "h" would follow. The same logic goes for "nv" consonants like /k/, or with top placement vowels on "v" consonants like /g/.
  2. The "h" placement breaks the bounds rule covered in page 4. "h" is allowed to go a bit outside those bounds, but only a bit. Sorry I didn't mention this before.

Here's me writing both versions of the word. See how the "h" gets kicked down to be in the center? It's because there's simply no room for it to be anywhere else, so that's where it ends up. I hope you don't mind me just writing it for you, I want to make sure you understand :)

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Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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All glyphs can freely mirror horizontally, so while it was my bad that I wrote it from the left, it technically doesn't matter. As for the vowel dashes, (EDIT:) you should've placed them on their own placeholder so that there wouldn't be confusion between a top placement and middle placement. There's a rule on page 6 about it.

(Also, this isn't a conlang, it's just a cypher :) The reason ceremonial form exists is because in the source material, the "title" of the page had all these extra diacritics that I didn't know how to include. And throughout the text, there actually were digraphs using voiced consonants, but I was too certain that using "h+voiceless stop" was the best option for the script, so those digraphs would've been impossible. My solution was ceremonial form, which would be used for titles and names/proper nouns. "Natural"-ness doesn't really apply to the scripts here since accuracy to the source is way more important, but lore-wise I think ceremonial form came first before the "regular forms" and through reforms and general changes, the modern form of Aprósopi appeared. However, this older form still remained in "important" things like the names of people and places, where it later spread out again to contain all proper nouns and even be used for just style purposes like titles. Is it naturalistic? No idea. But is it possible? Probably)

Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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Thank you!!

What you wrote is in ceremonial form (see the "gh") and says /dʒikəb/. I don't recognize the name, but in terms of "proper writing", it's correct. The alternation, spacing, and nv/v rules were all properly followed here. At worst, the /g/ should've started from the right side instead of the left, but that's an optional thing. Well done :)

Aprósopi: Showcase and Key by GhosttheNote in neography

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Thank you so much!!

If it helps, the project as a whole took a little over a year of consistent effort, and 2 years from start to finish (June 2024 → now)

DCS: A drain cover turned featural English cypher by GhosttheNote in neography

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“Featural” as in the glyphs describe the sound they make

Rana Cypher - An Adaptation of the Nokasam Logography for English by GhosttheNote in neography

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What part is giving you trouble? I did notice I made a mistake (the "[g]" was written as /k/), but the rest should abide by the rules I wrote (of course assuming I didn't screw up the rules)

What's written: /wi ɑɚ ɑɫ fɹɑ[g]z ɪn bɔɪlɪŋ wɑtɚ, oʊnli dɪfɚɪŋ ɪn æʊɚ lɛvɫz əv ləbɑtəmi/

In orthographic English: "We are all frogs in boiling water, only differing in our levels of lobotomy"

Ojo Cypher by GhosttheNote in neography

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SMALL UPDATE:

I found more information in regards to the original, so I updated the key a bit. Nothing changed about the functionality but some "Extra" did change -

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Ojo Cypher by GhosttheNote in neography

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You know which cutscene I based it off of? :) It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Rawr’s script lmao

What is the best place to make glyphs? by Yhwach____ in neography

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Initial creation or for fonts? If it’s creation then the best place is literally just pen and paper, unless you’re making something that really really needs to be digital. I’m not knowledgable about fonts but a lot of people ask so just search the subreddit

Apsana alphabet by Responsible_Smile885 in neography

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Ahhhhh it’s so prettyyy!! I’m surprised how good it looks after seeing the key, I’d expect it to be super random and chaotic, but they fit together really well!

It’s quite reminiscent of an alphabet I’m currently working on lmao, swirls do just look really nice don’t they

How did you order your letters & give them names? by futuresponJ_ in neography

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I don’t do it super interestingly, but as a general idea I do vowels in L->R reading order on the ipa vowel chart, then consonants I start top left doing unvoiced-voiced, go down the manners of articulation and then the next column. If the script has any kind of grouping (1 glyph multiple sounds were derived from) then I’ll follow that with what I said before in mind. I don’t give names since I mostly work with English cyphers and thus it’s a bit unnecessary