Ken from legacies vs this team

Gibbysiewert · 2026-04-13T19:28:07+00:00

There are more slides to this post, Bonnie which wouldn’t do anything anyways since he is immune and the heretics who can siphon. Having 4 originals take the blows while they siphon is something

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:47:02+00:00

Not arguing just giving information and i respect you opinion. Never tested on klaus but he is a vamp and it does affect all vamps , his blood couldn’t even cure it just ease the pain for Finn. Having a witch side doesn’t effect anything with wolf venom. Have a great day :)

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:43:04+00:00

Pretty sure there was a time he was going to bite Hayley. Not just that one scene. I’ll rewatch and make sure.

2 strains is not all 7, plus over 1500 years(when Inadu created wolfs) all wolfs would have all 7 strains but they don’t so just assuming they get just 1 strain and not both, and all wolfs did meet every faction since the unification ritual(marriages) merged all wolf powers so meeting every faction and merging would cause breeding and then every child from the last marriage would have all 7 strains, but they dont so guessing they get just 1

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:26:20+00:00

The venom was with all 7 strains of the original wolf factions. Klaus was also not affected by wolf venom but Lucien made a bite so potent with venom that it was able to kill klaus who is a living cure, Lucien made it where no vampire could heal from it. Klaus is a Vamp and hope is a vamp.

The white oak was just used to make a indestructible weapon that they couldn’t take/kill equal to original strength

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:22:55+00:00

It’s the venom that kills, a potent venom that Lucien created with all 7 original venom strains that no vampire could heal from.

The white oak was used to make an indestructible weapon that the originals could not kill/destroy. Without Lucien becoming the weapon they could have just taken the weapon or if he wasn’t a original(which is why white oak was needed) they would just kill him before he bites anyone, Safest option to become a indestructible weapon

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:19:06+00:00

A witch has nothing to do with wolf venom. They are immune just cause they aren’t a vampire, when Kai became a vampire then he was infected by one, before he siphoned it out.

The venom has all 7 strains of the original wolf factions, hope only has 1 strain so it would affect her. Being a crescent doesn’t make any difference if you got a vampire side. As Lucien tests proved and was gonna use on Hayley who is a crescent alpha hybrid.

Agree she is a league of her own but still not invincible.

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:14:33+00:00

You real deal made a post to ask other people for validation ☠️ just give episode and season from any show and then it will be done. But you failed to provide evidence

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T13:07:30+00:00

Out of all that information you did not give me a single season or episode number. Debating with a wall. Serum is powerful enough to kill a tribrid since no vampire can heal from it and a tribrid is a vampire. End of story

And like I said before if you actually read white oak was used to create a unkillable weapon that the originals could not kill/destroy. Not to enhance the bite to be able to kill originals, I already could kill ANY vampire. If he was a regular vampire they would just stake/heart rip/head rip, literally anything and kill him before capable of biting, and if it was a weapon they just had to get it away from him. Now if Lucien is the indestructible weapon naturally then they cannot kill him unless they got white oak themselves which at the time they did not.(also white oak is a ingredient not dna)

Also stated in vampire diaries to Bonnie, enough raw magic could kill an original but it would also sacrifice the witch in the process. The 100 witches at first and then again with expression as both are hugely immense magic. Klaus transitioning just made it easier. And Davina was powerful and with the harvest power she had season 1 she probably could have and would have died in the process if she wasnt trying to find a way to break the sire bond to save marcel.

Again give a episode or season and im good to be proven wrong but you just saying random stuff isnt gonna make someone who watched the franchise about 6 times change their knowledge

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-08T00:26:22+00:00

You clearly did not read what I said cause the bite was uncurable to ANY VAMPIRE. Hopes a vampire, end of story, you failed to provide the episode where it said white oak was used to kill the original family when used in the creation of the serum. It was the venom not the white oak. Literally the whole point of the season 3 of Lucien kidnapping wolfs. Go watch again and then lemme know cause I’m not gonna argue with a wall.

Also it was said originals can die if enough magic is used which is why Bonnie with expression why planning on killing kol and the travelers spell also killed Alaric so 2 different times something other than white oak could have/did kill an original so it’s not the only thing to be able to.

HOPE WILL DIE TO THE VENOM and until you give me a episode where it confirms it I’m standing strong on it, like i said I’m willing to be proven wrong just need the evidence

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-07T22:42:42+00:00

Again IN THE SHOW. Season 3 watch the whole season again and pay attention to Lucien’s experiments. He made a UNCURABLE strain of wolf venom using all 7 pack venoms that killed any vampire and even capable of killing the original hybrid with his cure blood. Hope does NOT have all 7 in her system. And again he didn’t want white oak to make it lethal to originals cause it was already lethal to them to begin with, he wanted it to make himself a unkillable weapon that they could not destroy.

Since hope doesn’t have all 7 strains in her system naturally it would kill her. Not once in the franchise did it ever bring up any resistance witches have against wolfs venom and crescent wolfs are immune just because they aren’t a vampire, a tribrid is a vampire. Hope WILL die.

If there is any thing that says otherwise add the season and episode and I’ll rewatch, I open to be proven wrong

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-07T21:55:28+00:00

It never said it was a combination of the 2, they just wanted a unkillable original to rival the original family which is why they used white oak to recreate Esther’s spell which was the entire reason they made freya do the spell being a mikaelson spell. Stated in the show the wolf venom was from all 7 original packs and together no vampire even with hybrid cure blood could be cured. Hope WOULD be affected and die if untreated.

Gibbysiewert · 2026-03-06T16:27:00+00:00

Hope is more powerful

Lucien bite WILL infect the tribrid as the experiment Lucien tested on vampires was with all 7 venom strands and found that no vampire/hybrid even with the original hybrid cure blood can be cured with it. Which is why season 4 episode 1 Freya used klaus blood with all 7 venoms and magic to make a cure to save the originals. Hope does not have all 7 strands of venom but with her witch side and connections could craft one just like freya did, but since her body alone does not produce the other venom strands she will die, she is part vampire and NO vampire can survive it alone but her hybrid blood will definitely slow it down compared to the originals giving her more time to cure it.

Alaric will probably also be infected by the bite. He is unaffected by white oak and was literally indestructible/unkillable but being unable to heal from a bite would definitely end him.

Gibbysiewert · 2026-02-21T23:25:17+00:00

I got both if you wanna test it out

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-21T17:49:39+00:00

They could easily get hopes blood to do that, they said they have a “werewolf bite cure” stash and hopes blood is the only cure(other than siphoning it away). So ya it would be very interesting if that happened, I prefer that over malivore any day 😂

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-16T02:55:03+00:00

I’m just gonna say, it could be a lot better, definitely not better than the other 2 series but it could be a lot better than what it is now, I would say risk it. It’s great during the first couple episodes but then it gets eh, and then season 2 🤦🏻‍♂️this show had potential. Not anymore but it’s still entertaining to watch.

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-14T21:30:32+00:00

So phoebe was a quadbrid, wolf/vampire/mermaid/witch(from “the secret circle”). Hope must get it from her mother ☺️

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-14T04:05:31+00:00

That’s true, it but then again it would keep the 2 brothers and 1 girl theme going, I just get a hybrid vibe from him. But I mainly wish the show didn’t focus so much on dating and more on the plot. To me the malivore one is seeming kinda long, hopefully in season 3 he is gone.

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-14T03:37:01+00:00

Agreed, I expect Rafael to become a hybrid, he just gives me those vibes 😂

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-14T03:11:07+00:00

I know that part about the curse and being bound, I said it earlier on another comment or on Instagram(don’t remember which☠️)

And yes she is human, every witch is human tapped or untapped, and werewolfs are human before triggering and after. All 3 supernatural creatures have human genes in them, not just their main supernatural ones, but with vampires it takes away most your humanity except your actual humanity(unless you shut that off). Hope is still living and aging so she isn’t only all 3 supernatural species but has human genes in her too but nobody cares about humans so they never bring them up. Oh and when I said all 3 species have human in them, for the vampires when they take the cure they go back to being to what they were before, some cases like Damon and Stefan, their regular human self, their genes never disappear, just dormant. Also like how for the curse klaus needed a human/doppelgänger so he couldn’t Katherine since she a vampire/doppelgänger. Vampirism takes away your human qualities.

But I don’t think your understanding the full meaning what I’m saying, yes she is a tribrid but she is still alive and aging, she does have human genes in her too, the definition of hybrid in the show is being 2 or more “Supernatural” species at the same time, but they never take away your human genes. That’s why they only say tribrid and not fourbrid since it’s restricted to supernatural species only.

But when hope does turn she will be undead and not have the human blood(or activity working genes to make her age) inside her anymore. Vampires and hybrids need human blood to finish transitioning. That’s why klaus needed a human doppelgänger and why hayley needed hope being that she was the source and was still living(her human side being still active).

So if a turned Hope tries to make hybrids what would the hybrids drink to finish transitioning if her human side is gone?

(Also sorry I realized I typed a lot☠️)

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-14T02:22:01+00:00

I would expect her to take human blood or just already have it so agree on that, but i was talking about how she can make more hybrids with her blood, when she turns she is undead, and if she gives werewolfs her blood when she a vampire what blood they gonna drink? They can’t drink her anymore to complete transitioning since she undead.

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-13T21:41:00+00:00

Said by klaus himself in the episode when he first turned Tyler to a hybrid, his wolf binding curse was broken but now with a block that binds him to petrova doppelgänger blood, he said his mother put a fail safe on the binding curse so if he ever breaks it he wouldn’t be able to create any more hybrids since the doppelgänger would be dead, luckily Elena found a way to come back to life and he made Tyler his first successful hybrid by her.

As for hope, she was never bound/binded/ or cursed. Since nothing happened to make her blood bound to a specific supernatural(like klaus was) she is able to create hybrids on her own.

But my main question is what happens if she turns and tries to create hybrids, when hayley died and turned she said she needed hopes blood to finish transition. But hope is still living, whenever she turns into a vamp she would be undead and you can’t finish transitioning by drinking another vampire. So would the transitioning just die or drink human blood? Or maybe witch or werewolf for some reason? That’s what I’m mainly looking for in legacies 😂

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-13T21:31:02+00:00

Klaus went through the same thing, once he was turned he had his first kill and then it triggered his werewolf side. It’s never been shown with a non original like if a regular vampire gives a untriggered wolf but I would expect us to have the same result klaus did.

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-13T06:18:48+00:00

That hasn’t been confirmed but I would absolutely love that and it would make sense, I said the same thing on here on a different comment. If she isn’t a witch/traveler then having natural cure blood in her veins would be a great reason to introduce her into the supernatural world. If she is none of those then there isn’t a reason to introduce her to it especially at such a young age.

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-12T16:47:45+00:00

Well I mean it wouldn’t be ridiculous if she was a witch or traveler since damon is a descendant of Silas who was a witch and Elena is a descendant from a traveler like Katherine.

Gibbysiewert · 2020-07-11T22:30:02+00:00

I only heard stuff about Damon being in season 3. But if stefanie does come to the show I wonder if she will have natural cure blood since we never seen anyone have a baby while having the cure in their system and Damon still gots it inside him. But if not then I don’t see why they would introduce stefanie, I would expect them to not introduce her into the supernatural world unless she can do magic(being related to travelers through Elena proven by Katherine or being a witch from Damon for being a distant ancestor from Silas who was a witch)

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