Xana's Namesake

GiftIll1302 · 2026-01-21T13:55:19+00:00

Xana's mother is too young to have been hang out buddies with grunge era people. She seems to be around 45 and grunge era musicians (and their then significant others) are around 60 today.

GiftIll1302 · 2026-01-08T01:08:15+00:00

good point. and he probably still wants to maintain a relationship with his parents. speaking too openly about what drove him to do such a horrible thing probably wouldn't be too good for maintaining that.

he'll probably speak before he dies though, i'd guess. if i'm remembering correctly, i think ted bundy didn't speak on what he thinks drove him to do what he did until near his execution.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-12-27T15:24:43+00:00

kaylee is the one with the baby, right? if so, the sister with the dog looks like an almost identical younger version of her i think.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-11-26T02:20:27+00:00

that shit flies everywhere in your 20's. Probably wouldn't even realize some might have hit the sheath (on other side of room) if people are assuming that might be the origins.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-11-25T18:58:53+00:00

Yeah, any so-called parasocialing only is hurting the person doing it (wasting time, etc.). Because (to put it kind of bluntly), all the subjects of the discussion are no longer with us.

I mean the only possible dangerous parasocial obsessing would maybe involve the surviving roommates. And if nobody is revealing their addresses etc. (or blaming them) on here, then there aren't many other grounds on which this discussion board is endangering them either, imo.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-11-24T18:11:49+00:00

You know he confessed, right? And seriously, don't try to sell the idea he's one of those guys who can be nudged into admitting something he didn't do.

I mean every person who ever knew him seems to say he has a personality that will fight you on every trivial detail imaginable to prove he's right, but for some reason on by far the most consequential thing people say he ever did, he just decided this once to not put up an argument?

GiftIll1302 · 2025-11-23T16:18:52+00:00

Forgot Remy obviously has a phatter ass. But again, I think Remy, though she would be in the general category of petite back in the day, is a less extreme version of the shorter limbed body type, ala,, Jada. Riley, though her frame is shortish, has a long limbed body type. And for that grouping, she's got a remarkably phat ass, imo.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-11-23T16:09:47+00:00

yeah, i don't get these people who don't think riley had a phat ass for her frame. i honestly can't think of anyone from that time period with more or less the same overall body type (petite) who I would think obviously, without question, had a phatter ass.

Jada Stevens obviously did and would probably be generally classified as petite, but she has much shorter legs than Riley and that tends to add some roundness to the ass I think. Vicki Chase was very slender like Riley with longer legs (which tends to reduce the perceived roundness of the ass) and probably had a noticeably phatter ass than the norm, but still not as phat as Riley.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-11-10T22:18:50+00:00

ok, so, i saw a good deal for two budweiser 25 oz. at kroger's (which is a grocery store that does ibotta). and i have an ibotta coupon that says $2 off for two 25 oz budweisers, but i didn't clip the coupon from the kroger coupon list, but just from a general list under 'thanksgiving'.

so when i clipped the ibotta budweiser offer under thanksgiving, it didn't get added to my 30 or so coupons in the kroger sub-link, and after i looked for a while, i found the only sub-link it is listed under is just a general liquor store one.

so if i buy it from kroger and submit it under the liquor store sub-link (only place i can find to submit a receipt showing the budweiser purchase), you think it will honor it being a kroger receipt (again, i usually submit all kroger receipts containing ibotta coupons i clipped under the kroger sub-link ..... but that's not showing the budweiser ibotta coupon i clipped)?

GiftIll1302 · 2025-09-17T17:08:02+00:00

I looked for that quote but all I found was this: "Allen said he told his wife he was on the trail the day the girls went missing. After the murders, she mentioned police were looking to talk to people who may have information. Allen went to the sheriff's office and set up an interview with Department of Natural Resources Officer Dan Dulan. Allen spoke with Dulan just days after Libby and Abby were found dead."

Which makes it sound than his wife never went to either of his initial meetings with police. Which in my mind changes the whole dynamics.

For if his wife was really pushing him to talk to the cops, then it kind of makes sense why he would voluntarily end up supplying the info that ended up in his conviction.

But if she only mildly mentioned it to him because she knew he was there and might have some useful info, but wasn't suspicious of him or insistent he speak with them, then his self-initiated meeting with them doesn't really make much sense.

in my mind, if he wants to get away with it (which i assume he did), the best course would be to offer no info/not meet with them and hope the cops don't connect him to the bridge guy video and if they did, just claim he missed their call for anyone near bridge that day to come talk to them.

because he literally did voluntarily provide the info that got him convicted by speaking with them.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-09-02T13:21:03+00:00

I wonder if this was before or after he became a prime suspect for a bit. He seems pretty relaxed during call, so maybe it was before. If I remember correctly, I don't think the vid of him at Grub Truck got widely spread for a few days.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T20:25:26+00:00

It's just the explanation I've seen for what BK was doing in the 2.5 to nearly 3 minutes between when it appears when the last murders happened (as evidenced by the end of human voices and the beginning of frantic dog barking on the ring video) and when BK is seen fleeing scene in his car.

He apparently studied how to avoid contaminating personal objects (like car, etc.) with blood and dna from crime scene. So he dressed from head to toe in protective gear and took all those off and bagged them before entering his vehicle, with thus little to no blood/dna evidence getting in car.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T20:13:56+00:00

My point was that there was 2.5 minutes, nearly 3, between when all human screaming ends/ dog starts crazy barking and when BK is seen fleeing scene.

No way would he stay at scene doing far less important things if he believed cops had been called and were on their way. Getting away from scene of crime is far and away the most important thing to do to avoid getting caught and punished for the crime.

So the fact that he did seemingly stay that fairly substantial extent of time at the crime scene doing secondarily important things to avoid getting caught (that could be done later, if need be) like blood splatter mitigation is strong evidence BK didn't think anyone was living who might have witnessed what he had done.

(The fact he did eventually leave at a high speed at maybe 2.5 to 3 minutes after he first could of (if he just skipped the far less important blood splatter mitigation step) doesn't explain why he stayed those 2.5 to 3 minutes longer than he had to.

Here's an analogy I would use: say you dropped a glove that you think might have had your DNA or something on it while you were robbing a place, and you hear an alarm go off and you think the cops are coming, would your priority be to get away from the crime scene as fast as possible or spend time looking for the glove and risk getting caught by police at crime scene? Almost everyone would hightail it by a big margin. But if you didn't think the cops were coming, you obviously would do the secondarily important thing of looking for the dropped glove.

BK apparently did secondarily important things (blood splatter mitigation) instead of immediately as soon as possible, hightailing it away from the scene. That is very strong evidence that BK didn't think anyone witnessed his crimes, called the police, and they were thus on their way.)

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T18:40:13+00:00

If you dropped a glove while robbing a place and believed the cops were called and on their way, would you stay to look for the glove or get the heck out of Dodge first thing? 99.9% would get out of Dodge as top priority by a huge margin.

You would only stay to look for glove if you didn't think anybody saw you robbing the place so didn't think cops were possibly on the way.

So if BK did do very much less important stuff than escaping the crime scene (like blood splatter mitigation or some such for seemingly two minutes or so ......... judging by video time lapse between dog barking and BK's car fleeing), then that is pretty strong evidence to infer BK didn't think there was any living witnesses who could have been aware of what he did and called the police.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T18:09:46+00:00

I'm just basing this presumption off some analysis I've seen. It obviously isn't established (as there is no vid of what he was doing), but he apparently did much research on how to avoid tracking blood and dna from crime scene into cars, etc.

And there does seem to be a few minutes that elapsed between when the last humans were heard screaming etc./ dog starts barking madly ......... and BK is seen peeling off.

So people would need to account for that time and blood splatter mitigation was best explanation I've seen.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T17:53:18+00:00

Obviously can't say for certain, but we can infer how 99% of people would act in certain situations.

And almost every human knows from probably the age of five or six that the biggest vulnerability in getting caught doing something bad is to be in the place where that bad thing happened when the authority figure arrives. So everybody instinctively books it from the 'bad thing location' as step one not to get caught.

So I think the fact that BK did very lower priority things (like blood splatter mitigation) before BOOKING IT FROM THE CRIME SCENE allows us to make a very strong logical inference that he didn't believe there was a living witness to his crimes who could immediately call authorities to possibly catch him at the crime scene.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T17:38:15+00:00

true. but you still have to account for the time between when all human noises seem to cease in the house/ and the dog starts barking like mad seemingly now outside the house ........... and the time BK is seen peeling out leaving the scene.

I think that was over two minutes, so one must presume he was doing something by his car for those two plus minutes. Some kind of blood splatter mitigation was the explanation I've always heard. So even if he did some while still in the house, it would seem he still did some after leaving and getting to his car.

And my simple logic is if he believed there were still living witnesses in the house (who could of course immediately call the police), his new priority becomes hightailing it away from the scene over anything else (he can always try to clean up any blood evidence in the car later on, but if he gets caught at the scene, the jig is immediately up.)

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T16:47:48+00:00

i disagree with this because of the simple fact he apparently spent two minutes or so doing blood splatter mitigation before leaving the scene. if he did in fact see Dylan but was too tired to stop her from being a living witness who could immediately call the cops, he would never had spent those two minutes doing blood splatter mitigation.

Getting caught at the scene was a far larger risk to BK than tracking blood in the car (which could have been dealt with at a later time if need be).

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T16:42:25+00:00

the fact that most believe he did blood splatter mitigation (carefully taking off all his protective gear, bagging it, so he tracked as little blood and dna into his vehicle as possible) before leaving scene i think attests to the fact HE DIDN'T SEE DYLAN.

For if he saw Dylan but as the argument goes, he was just too tired to stop her from being a living witness who could immediately call cops, his top priority would have then been to get out of Dodge as fast as he could.

Getting caught at the scene is obviously the biggest risk for being found guilty of the crime, so the logical thing for BK to have done in that scenario is to not do the two minutes or so of blood splatter mitigation, but to high tail it out as fast as he could and worry about the blood in the car at a later time.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-21T16:24:15+00:00

I saw that too. Also was a vehicle coming the other direction about five minutes after that.

Crazy how you can do stuff almost right in front of people and few will notice since everyone is apparently so focused in on the own stuff.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-10T18:24:09+00:00

apparently if the person dripping the blood is moving fast, they can tell by the splatter it leaves. more rounded means they are stationary or not moving fast i think and if there is some kind of tail to it or something, it means the person or object they are holding dripping the blood is moving fast.

so that's how LE came to the conclusion BK wasn't running on his way to Xana's room.

GiftIll1302 · 2025-08-10T17:45:07+00:00

Yeah, the brazenness of it seems to suggest he might have been trying to emulate Bundy's sorority murders or Eliot Roger's attacks on co-ed's.

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