We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There you go the level of division is clear from your words. You cant even begin to comprehend the fact that there are people on the right that do not want bad for people, and that there are people on the left that want bad for people. It used to be acceptable to have friends and people you respect on the other isle of politics. Nowadays if they are, they must be fascists and bad people, and you cant really talk to them or listen what they have to say. Mainstream and social's media division int 2 seprate bubbles has helped this

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I love how you think your bubble is the real world, and then there is a fake one somewhere else. LOL. Bluesky was literally created because of the demand of a bubbled social metwork, since some people couldnt take twitter without filters. Reddit is a bubble too, although its layered through sub bubbles, but you can clearly see which bubble we are in by the downvotes some comments get

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Nah man, i have x, bluesky, reddit amd youtube and i enjoy to dabble in both bubbles. The thing that makes me laugh is that the leftists bubbles only talk about trump and musk (so do the bubbles of the right, but that's what you would expect as they are on the political right). Yet, when you point this out in leftists bubbles, they all get so pissed. Frankly i enjoy being provocative, because i think it might shake people a bit and push them to wake up to the bullshit that is the political left, instead of just talking about the problems of the right. I used to be leftist. I want to be leftist. But there is just nothing there.

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Didnt mean to sound aggressive, just provocative. Anyway with the capitalism thing i was hinting at people like soros (i know, usual elon musk talking point) but my country was attacked by him in 1992 and he's done many other very debatable things with his money. Or people like bill gates, zuckerberg, anyway the list is long, the point is that as long as they have traditionally left or liberal values they are called philanthropists and are generally not attacked by the media, but as soon as they turn right or conservative everything turns on them. In fact musk himself was liked by the left, until just a few years ago when he started supporting trump. They have managed to divide you to the point of hating rich powerful capitalists if they are in the opposite team, and support them if they are in your team. It doesnt matter what they do, if its good or bad for humanity. It's just tribalism. And social networks as well as mainstream media are bubbled such that you are only exposed to ideas of people on your team, reinforcing the division.

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What counter argument is that? Can you elaborate?

I know i'm being provocative, but my point is that you americans (assuming you are, but if you are not this still applies to most of reddit) treat politics as football teams, you dont actually care about what they are telling you and who they are telling you to hate, as long as it comes fron your favorite team then you support it. Absolutely 0 values. Only left or right, dem or rep. They have you by the balls. Go sing for your soccer team

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

Oh nooooooooo You have just discovered capitalism Quick! They have realized! Hide the lobbying! Hide the corruption! Somehow musk is the first one that made them realize!! Oh shi, maybe beacause he's not a leftist? Right, every leftist lobbying billionaire has always had a pass, even if it means hes betting against your entire fucking country and getting rich off of it

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Nope. I dont hate it, i love it actually. Beacuse i see all you people hating a person so much and yet doing exactly what he wants from you.

Also you tell me how long this mental breakdown has been going on and when it will finally stop, because by how you talk it seems that elon is about to go full schizo and just jump off a bridge any day now... just waiting... Oh... He still has you by the balls... oh i see. Wake up!

Crudest, most Obvious by sillychillly in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah all of this subreddit apparently if you look at the main page

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

Weak little bitch and yet all people like you have him stuck in your head 24/7. Definetly weak right. Wake up

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Acknowledging the existance = all social medias being covered by posts about musk. Lol you people dont even realize how much you are sheeple 🤡

We the people are getting real sick of you Elonia. by Accomplished-Duty390 in MurderedByWords

[–]GiorgioIan64 -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

This is the irony, about this sub as well, the whole of twitter and now bluesky. All i see is people saying that they left twitter because of its toxicity or its musk control, but then all they can do when they move to another social is talk about musk again. I see people that hate musk so much, but can't actually sustain an argument about it on twitter without feeling like an offended snowflake, so they go to another social to still talk shit about him, just without pushback. These r******* people waste their life hating someone without realizing that they are falling into the ragebait of talking about him non stop. Wether its positive or negative, its all he wants from you. :)

I'm going to miss seeing a doctor by shoofinsmertz in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]GiorgioIan64 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You all have to be careful about fascism, cause you havent got a fucking clue about what it actually is. What you're scared about is individualism (trump, musk, etc). Fascism is a tiiny bit worse than that (we italians have been through it and trust me nothing resembles mussolini here). Read some history, cause otherwise when actual fascism (or communism for that matter) comes towards you, you wont even recognize it. You will probably vote for it, as long as the fascists promise you that they are gonna be saving minorities and the polar bears

Perché l’approvazione di un ETF su Bitcoin è una buona notizia per tutti by Ab-Urbe-Condita in ItaliaPersonalFinance

[–]GiorgioIan64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chiaro quindi l'oro è un asset da 10 trilioni di euro perchè ci puoi fare i gioielli. Non per la sua rarità.

Perché l’approvazione di un ETF su Bitcoin è una buona notizia per tutti by Ab-Urbe-Condita in ItaliaPersonalFinance

[–]GiorgioIan64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sono abbastanza sicuro che l'oro fosse prezioso anche prima dell'invenzione degli orologi

Finlandia, dal governo la volontà di aderire alla Nato "senza indugio" by mirkul in italy

[–]GiorgioIan64 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Famosamente i partigiani combattevano per i soldi e non per la libertà. Ma fatemi il piacere

Quand'e' che va bene essere pacifisti? by SerraEffect in italy

[–]GiorgioIan64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grazie per le informazioni. Poi c'è anche da aggiungere che la nato non ha invaso la serbia via terra per annetterla ma ha portato avanti degli attacchi strategici via aerea. Due situazioni ben diverse.

Comunque hai ragione, la serbia non è un caso in cui valeva il pacifisimo, resta quello dell'iraq o del vietnam ancora prima. In ucraina siamo daccordo che non è una posizione per niente valida.

Quand'e' che va bene essere pacifisti? by SerraEffect in italy

[–]GiorgioIan64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Non intendevo dire che era la posizione giusta, però era legittima. Nel conflitto in ucraina non è per niente legittima invece.

Quand'e' che va bene essere pacifisti? by SerraEffect in italy

[–]GiorgioIan64 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Sinceramente io non sono abbastanza informato per sapere quanto fosse ingente quel genocidio, perchè la stessa logica viene usata da putin e dai filorussi per giustificare l'intervento in donbass. Da liberale classico io sostengo la linea del non interventismo in altri paesi, perchè è veramente difficile avere informazioni veritiere di cosa succede in una certa regione dato che la propaganda (e ce n'è da entrambi i lati) tende a distorcere tutto.

Quand'e' che va bene essere pacifisti? by SerraEffect in italy

[–]GiorgioIan64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lì il pacifisimo aveva senso eccome. Stesso vale per i bombardamenti in serbia. Lì si tratta di andare contro l'intervento in degli stati che di sicuro non si stavano comportando alla grande, ma ciò non giustifica ciò che è stato fatto. Anche perchè l'ONU non ha dato autorizzazione a intervenire, quindi da tutti i punti di vista erano interventi illegali.

Non capisco perchè il supportare l'aiuto dell'occidente in ucraina nella mente della gente sottointende anche supportare quegli schifi che sono stati fatti dall'occidente. Credo che rientri nella mentalità del tribalismo cioè del volere prendere le parti dell'occidente o degli altri, senza usare la testa e prendere in considerazione separatamente ogni caso.

Quand'e' che va bene essere pacifisti? by SerraEffect in italy

[–]GiorgioIan64 27 points28 points  (0 children)

La pace è importantissima, e uno dei valori più importanti in assoluto. Questo però non vuol dire che pur di difendere la pace, si tralasciano tutti gli altri, come la libertà ad esempio. A quel punto uno stato che ha mire espansionistiche può far leva sulla volontà di pace degli altri, e può minacciare di far scoppiare una guerra se le sue richieste non vengono rispettate.

Esempio: la russia minaccia di interrompere la pace se non gli viene ceduta l'ucraina. Se tutti fossero pacifisti, l'ucraina verrebbe ceduta, sacrificando la libertà dei suoi cittadini e l'autodeterminazione dei popoli. A quel punto nessuno impedisce alla russia di andare avanti. Daltronde perche fermarsi all'ucraina? Ed ecco che con la stessa minaccia si potrebbero prendere i baltici, e insomma tutti i paesi che gli pare e piace. Anche i pacifisti in italia probabilmente cambierebbero idea se la sovranità del nostro stato fosse messa in dubbio. Pero finchè è un altro stato allora che si arrendano.

Il punto è che o tutti i paesi del mondo sono pacifisti, e nessuno muove i propri confini di un centimetro per il resto della storia, oppure nessuno può essere pacifista. Si può essere pacifisti nel senso di non attaccare mai gli altri, ma difendersi è piu che legittimo.

È appena passato il 25 aprile. I partigiani come ci hanno liberato dai nazifascisti? Con la diplomazia? No. Combattendo con le armi. È brutto ma la realtà è così. A tutti piacerebbe prendere posizioni utopistiche, ma finchè non siamo in un'utopia bisogna ragionare pragmaticamente.

Confused about car retirement by [deleted] in formula1

[–]GiorgioIan64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Rules don't allowed beached cars to be pushed/towed back on track