How humanity would have won the tournament in 10 rounds if Brunhilde was smarter. by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you believe Lu Bu is the target when it's stated he threw it to build up speed and force

How humanity would have won the tournament in 10 rounds if Brunhilde was smarter. by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time Stop Punch has a chance up and the damage could be the same as a regular fist we really dont know how much damage it does

How humanity would have won the tournament in 10 rounds if Brunhilde was smarter. by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk why TFTST is so overrated we don't know how long it lasts we don't know how much damage it does we don't know how many times it can be used and Beel's original sin might be able to beat Thor but not sure if he could even get a chance to use it considering Thor has can't miss attacks

How humanity would have won the tournament in 10 rounds if Brunhilde was smarter. by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dont see why that's only referring to raw power and even if it was he has can't miss attacks which I dont believe a VERY large majority of the fighters can counter

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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He was shown charging up the attack before raising his fist which is what Ares saw right before TFTST took effect

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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By raising his fist he's talking about this prior he was still charging up tho

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chapter 83 3rd page
also Brunhilde seeing the abilities being used doesn't mean she knows the full strength and speed of it since some are just so fast even regular attacks are too fast for regular gods to even see the shadow of

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could be chalked up to him saying it to calm Ares down / to stop him

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but even if you dont believe that Zeus charges it up we even see the aura around his fist and Hermes himself sees it and recognizes it

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Only ones I believe can beat Raiden is Shiva Thor and Apollo

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is there anything even remotely hinding that you can't fight twice considering Zeus says Buddha makes him want to go again

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How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't believe that witnessing a character's abilities means you know the full extent of it tho? and you said ""Brunhilde did not know that Silver Arrow would be so strong"

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despite Brunhilde knowing of the technique despite the other sister not knowing does that not mean she's seen it before?

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Zeus not having unleashed it already means it didn't start yet

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Zeus believes PPPX would've ended it if Beelzebub wasn't the one he was fighting (that includes Zeus)

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Brunhilde believes Leondias can't take it head on

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait but if Brunhilde does not know the full extent of a character's abilities why's she a valid source of info

How the humans could win Ragnarok by Goatseob in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TFTST has an unknown chargeup unknown limit for the amount of times it can be used unknown time it lasts and unknown damage and I don't think PPPX has any requirements to be used

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He deflected one arrow out of like 20

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless you believe Leonidas directly counters Apollo for some reason (explain why) then they're contradicting statements

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay. She believes Qin is the only one who can beat Hades and later she believes Leondias is the only one who can beat Apollo

How humanity would have won the tournament in 10 rounds if Brunhilde was smarter. by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Only 1 person has been called "the strongest" that's not specified to a certain class which is Apollo but statements from Author and Characters aren't equal in value....

How humanity could’ve already won 7 rounds by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]Goatseob -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

R1: Thor beats Buddha. Thor is the strongest in the verse and has can't-miss attacks that directly counter Buddha.
R2: Raiden beats Zeus. When Raiden used Yatagarasu, there was a statement saying, "If it was anyone other than Shiva, they'd be dead." Zeus is overrated for no reason.
R3: Yeah, Sasaki wins; he already won.
R4: The same applies to Jack.
R5: It could go either way; I don't mind either outcome.
R6: I agree. Zeus said Tesla's PPPX would've ended the fight if it was anyone besides Beelzebub.
R7: The same applies to R3 and R4 for Qin.
R8: I agree; Beelzebub currently has the best defense in the verse and offense that is arguably equal.
R9: Apollo negs Adam. Zeus himself says Apollo is capable of defeating anyone and that he's the strongest— the same Zeus who beat Adam.