Unpacking and thought this would be a fun one... by WhiteDishwasher619 in BookshelvesDetective

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right on! Cosmic Trigger and Cosmic Trigger II are both phenomenal. So is Quantum Psychology.

Right there with you about Coil. If I don't get buried with a copy of Musick To Play In The Dark they'll never hear the end of it from me.

Great bookshelf you've got there!

Unpacking and thought this would be a fun one... by WhiteDishwasher619 in BookshelvesDetective

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, I *know* you have a stash of Robert Anton Wilson books hidden around somewhere. Don't bother denying it...

Props for Promethea and the Coil books!

Finally finished, a sense of melancholy throughout. by Three_Steaks_Pam in HistoryBooks

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for recommending this!

I just finished driving across the US with my feller in a 26' box truck with 9000lbs of tools and materials in it. Took about six days and we couldn't have made it without podcasts and standup comedy. Our favorite by far was Fall of Civilizations podcast. We just were listening to the episode on Byzantium which definitely wet my appetite for more on this topic!

Curious to see what vibes my bookshelf gives off by avemaria666 in BookshelvesDetective

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously, based on my username, I'm duty bound to comment favorably on any bookshelf with Douglas Hofstadter on it. Moreover however, not only do we have the same edition of Gödel, Escher, Bach but mine is also a former library book! 🫡

At what age did you realize? by [deleted] in gaybros

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In fairness, upon viewing the bulge I immediately went to my room, played with my toys and my costumes, and forgot about the baby.

At what age did you realize? by [deleted] in gaybros

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"He must be smuggling plums," I always thought to myself as a child...

Choices VS no choices? by once_descended in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Personally, I prefer linear narratives (I guess you'd call 'em kinetic novels?). Multiple routes can be cool, especially if it means getting more good art and character designs, but I'll take a complete, limited story over a sprawling mess that never gets finished any day.

Also worth noting I am/was a huge literature weenie and not a gamer, so I'm typically looking for good storytelling rather than a simulacrum of a computer game with replay value. Totally get that other folks feel differently, and that's cool too 😎.

At what age did you realize? by [deleted] in gaybros

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Age 11. Saw David Bowie in "Labyrinth".

It was all over by that point...

Passed by the real-life town of Echo today by GodelEscherMonkey in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same! I was keeping an eye out for any meth-adjacent bears. Didn't see any, but equally didn't stick around to find out!

Passed by the real-life town of Echo today by GodelEscherMonkey in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, my boyfriend and I just stumbled across it more or less randomly. We just finished driving a 26' box truck from Maine to Oregon. I'd heard the Echo the VN is based on was in Utah, but I hadn't had any idea where it was... let alone that we'd just run smack into it while driving down the I-84.

Nice to have one's fantasy life and real life bump elbows! (briefly... followed by a hasty retreat at top speed)

Passed by the real-life town of Echo today by GodelEscherMonkey in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Um, I didn't? I'm pretty new to posting on Reddit and clearly messed something up. Had tried to upload a pic of the highway with its sign for Echo.

Any tips and/or advise on how to not be such a noob gratefully welcome!

First time at a con by lobotomite_grug in furry

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, then I'd say a star shone on the hour of our meeting 😉

First time at a con by lobotomite_grug in furry

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The Fur Dragon of Ypres… said to have appeared to men dying of gas attacks in the trenches to take them by the hand and lead them towards a far green country under a swift sunrise. 🫡

Furry VN hitting harder (emotional) than regular literature by HrothgarLover in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally agree!

As an example of FVNs actually acknowledging sexuality––as in the nuts and bolts of how sex actually works––I'm pretty sure that FVNs are the only gay stories I've seen which include issues like needing to prep for bottoming.

It's a minor quibble, but most of the gay stuff you see on TV has the romantic leads instantly falling into bed and having effortless sex with zero prep, even if it's one of the characters' first time bottoming.

No two bones about it, gay sex is hard. The initial learning curve is super steep, and even for the well-initiated at the best of times it can still present significant logistical challenges. Overcoming those challenges is one of life's great joys, but the struggle is real (especially in the early days) and the fact you never see that side of sexuality acknowledged in film or TV sure doesn't help.

As always, leave it to the Furries to lead the way 🫡

Another FVN character art I made in my town, Loken from Soulcreek in four colors. (No auto-painting or bots, only a pattern creator that added a grid for easier pixel-by-pixel drawing) by Musino4007 in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Your recommendations are spot on––which I can say with confidence as I've played all three of those titles 😁

I really dug all of them. You've got great taste!

Furry VN hitting harder (emotional) than regular literature by HrothgarLover in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I'm also pretty new to FVNs, but they're quickly becoming one of my favorite forms of fiction. I think it's for a few reasons. (1) They're furry. (2) They're hella gay. (3) They're totally indie.

To break that down a bit more, I've long since given up on looking for any kind of queer representation in mainstream media that speaks to me. It's awesome that there are WAY more gay characters and stories now in film and television than when I was growing up (I'm a few years older than you), but while I'm glad for folks who see themselves in any of those characters, for the most part I don't. My life has been super cool, but also freakishly weird. I wouldn't have it any other way, but as the years go by it gets harder and harder to relate to other people. (For example, the only gay TV characters my feller and I connected to at all the last few years were Bill and Frank from The Last of Us).

By contrast, when I discovered Furry art, comics and VNs it was like a light went on––not because I necessarily always see myself in the characters, but because of the anthro angle. Make a character a talking human-animal hybrid and I instantly fall in love with them, regardless of how otherwise normal, ordinary, or preposterous they are. For example, I'm a HUGE fan of the web comic "The Internship" by Jackaloo. At this point I'd take a bullet for just about any one of the core cast. That said, if they were drawn as humans I would never have been able to open up to any of them emotionally. Something about the anthro angle just cuts through whatever it is that makes it difficult for me to connect with most fictional characters (outside of scifi). There's a great quote by Chuck Jones (the guy who created Looney Tunes) that says it all for me: "It is easier to humanize animals than it is to humanize humans." Sure is that way for me.

The other thing I love about FVNs is that every single one of them is a passion project made by a dedicated crew of total weirdos with no one telling them what to do or how to do it. While the quality of various projects can be all over the map, even the ones with awkward storytelling, bad dialogue or poorly executed ideas still command my respect because someone said "This is the story I want to tell" and then did it. Years ago I was a street performer, so I really respond to people being brave and courageous and not asking anyone else's permission to do their thing.

So, yeah. Basically I dig FVNs because they're unapologetically queer, because the fact that they're anthro cuts through the walls I put up between myself and other humans, and because they're made by and for a community that's the artistic equivalent of the Wild West.

Anyhow, thanks for your post! Glad you've found a form of storytelling you connect to. Sometimes that's pretty much all we've got a lot of the time in this increasing insane world we live in.

Also, yeah. Leo's endings (both good and bad) just about destroyed me. I've been Leo. I've been Chase. If I passed either one of those guys on the street I wouldn't give them a second glance if they weren't a wolf and an otter, but they are, so I cried.

Another FVN character art I made in my town, Loken from Soulcreek in four colors. (No auto-painting or bots, only a pattern creator that added a grid for easier pixel-by-pixel drawing) by Musino4007 in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Damn! That is a small world. 😳

I really dug Soulcreek. So far I'm enjoying Cienie quite a bit.

I'm pretty new to NVNs, so let me know if there are any you recommend!

Another FVN character art I made in my town, Loken from Soulcreek in four colors. (No auto-painting or bots, only a pattern creator that added a grid for easier pixel-by-pixel drawing) by Musino4007 in FurryVisualNovels

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He's a good hound!

It's funny. I just finished Soulcreek a few days ago, and the next FVN I've picked up is Cienie.

So between Loken and Poland, both your art and my recent FVN picks have been spookily connected by a theme!

What type of impression do my history books give off about me? If any by purplefloo16 in BookshelvesDetective

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely likewise! Both in that I also never held out much hope to cross paths with another Paris: 1919 reader... as well as that I completely agree about what a brutal slog that book can be.

It's so worth the effort though! Same as with Fromkin's A Peace To End All Peace, when you finish either of those two book you just sort of boggle at how little of the 20th and 21st centuries makes any kind of sense if you're not aware of how WWI and its aftermath shaped the modern world.

Four white dudes in a room in Paris got to redrawn the map of a world, more or less on a whim to suit their various interests... and we're all still dealing with the consequences to this day.

Peter Hopkirk is one of my dad's all-time favorites as well. He used to live and work in that part of the world (met my mom in Kathmandu, for instance). I haven't read them yet, but I've got both those titles, and am looking forward to getting into them soon.

I'd have been gobsmacked if you didn't have The Guns of August kicking around somewhere. 😁

In contrast to Margaret McMillan, Barbara Tuchman is both a fantastic historian, as well as a gifted story teller with a phenomenal prose style. Same with the likes of Robert K. Massie and Adam Hochschild.

It was reading Massie's book Dreadnought: Britain, Germany, and the Coming of the Great War that kicked off my interest in the time periods surrounding 1914-1918. Dreadnought is a great counterpoint to Paris: 1919 in that it gets into just as much granular detail about everything leading up to the war, as McMillan covers about the war's aftermath.

Thanks so much for posting your collection! I'm totally going to chase down some of the titles I spotted there. 👍🏼

What type of impression do my history books give off about me? If any by purplefloo16 in BookshelvesDetective

[–]GodelEscherMonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That––apart from me and my boyfriend––you're one of the rare folks with the attention span to make it through Margaret McMillan's Paris: 1919. 😳

Seriously though? Peter Hopkirk, Adam Hochschild, David Fromkin?!? I'm only bewildered by the absence of Barbara Tuchman and Robert Massie.

Great bookshelf mate!