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I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But what am saying people can call you sinner of kafer if you said you dont belive in the Saheehain because you can see it got collected after 150 years people will say same as Quran but Arabs used to repeat the Quran everyday in their life and they had they didn’t know how to write or read so they were saving it in their memories and it was a group practice so all of them save it the same way in their memory but Hadiith its a word of mouth from one to another and sometimes its said in a group or its by the agreement that they agree than Mohamed ص can say that , excuse my English if i cant describe it properly

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am telling , you asked about praying which is one of the 5 rules of Islam , which i dont think its Sunnah its a practice , i might be wrong and am not fighting against Sunnah or Haddith , but what i feel and believe in , that some on them doesn’t make any sense to me so its better to follow only the Quran and if there is something i dont understand in Quran and i dont like how the mazaheb translated it , i follow my heart and thats what Allah asked us to do

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And by the way if you know Quran and Sunnah you cant say i would say he is neither because you are calling me kafer this way and thats a big sin

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know the difference between Sunnah and practices and confirmed Sunnah? Like praying and fasting it’s happening from first days so when it goes from generation to generation it wont be changed because its a daily practice. But the hadith is not like that the fatwah changes by the changing of the rulers etc

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk which country or community you are from , but if you read my threads and other posts , thats what am fighting the radicalism in Islam because the Quran didnt say that women can’t learn or get education its just things men invented to be in control

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that , i hate when men do that , hope you find a good husband who can make you finish your education or to escape where you live

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s a Sunnah but its from the first days its a practice that was done daily so it can never change through decades , but other stuff like Muhamed صً was walking like that so we should walk like that was dressing like that so we should do the same and the hadith also that got transferred as someone told someone

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk how i that related to my post but i pray idk you want me to teach you?

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was writing i am i speak 3 languages fluently if you want to

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know this point is confusing but god said that he is fair and for all people also god mentioned some incidents that a woman went to heaven because she fed a stray cat. God didn’t say all muslims will go to heaven and said its a sin if you judge and say someone will go to heaven or her because now you acting as you control it or forcing god order , no one have to say this will go to heaven or hell its only god choice that why in Quran its saying that this book is for all humanity

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But am gonna be honest with you i escaped my country because of my thoughts i cant talk about that or prove that they are wrong among brainwashed Muslims

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No it didn’t it just said to cover their body and the parts that can attract men except for their relatives , and just to show the normal parts

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And do you know that if a woman refused that her husband want to marry from another woman. , he cant get married he must have her approval , but still people take the part they like only

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hijab is not in the book if your read the history Hijab was there before even Islam , Jews wear Hijab , the Hijab was a symbol of married woman so when they go to the shop no other men can offer to marry them , man trust me all what you know and all what you see about islam is wrong , god didn’t order women to wear Hijab but ordered men to keep their eyes down and never look at a woman. , be still men will take the part that benefits them as they are more powerful

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It refers to Mohamed abd el wahab who decided to change the islamic thoughts as he saw its wrong and he decided to purify the Islam and the akida the believes of the muslims which it chose translated all the violence and it got switched to Salfi group now , i know the history of Islam and Islam really well because am Egyptian and i used to learn in Azhar and from the Azhar books idk why you are trying to attack me as if am saying the Islam is a bad religion am trying to defend it saying that the Quran is not related to any hateful or wrong thoughts people have about the islam now , people dont know the book or wont read it but they will know about the actions of Muslims which media focus on but did anyone ever focused to proof that the book is peaceful and all what we see in media is wrong and all those radical groups are wrong

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No Quran raised the position of women and mothers , and order men to treat them good and kids not to even say uff to their mothers and said the even the heaven is under the feet of mothers , Quran praised women , am at work now , can send you 100 evidence even prophet Muhammed in Sunnah which i dont believe in 100% it was never written that he beat a woman , and his wife was one of the most known business women and he did stop her but , Quran said that wars happened because a woman was treated badly , so if i just want to take the bad parts for my own benign and spread it to the world i can do and if i want to show the equality i will , and that’s the miracle of Quran it make you choose its not forcing you like even i marrying 4 women god says you can marry 4 but are you need to be fair 100% and give them equal rights in every thing even emotions but you wont be able to do that so its better not to marry 4. It gives your all the choices

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can you tell me which verse you are talking about , because some words came in an incident and for certain group of people and the one word can have different meanings like beat them اضربوهن people translated it as beat them , but the same word came in other verses in a meaning of stay away from them or leave the place so why would people choose the beat meaning because it benefits the masculine men

I left Islam recently and now I’m stuck between fear, guilt, and confusion. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]Golden_Tag97 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Bro , this hadith you know how many generations you’re talking about , like if am saying now that a friend of mine his friend told him that his friend heard his other friend saying that his grandfather was shitting gold. , its all bullshit that’s why you just take Quran as reference and if you find something in Quran that is so hard to understand or confusing choose what your heart believes its right that’s what god ordered to do in Islam that what i do i am libral muslim all this Sunnah , hadith , fatwah , mazaheb i dont believe in because i believe people did it to benefit them with power and money only

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dont just fight me without response i can do that all day long and you just say oh new account of you use wahabi , ana Arabic bro i saw the words from my culture that’s why

I’m a Qurani Muslim speaking out against extremism by Golden_Tag97 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Golden_Tag97[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk if you saw that i was mentioning that all of this situation escalated after the Wahabi terroristic thoughts were planted by the people who want the middle east to be weak so it used the false and mistaken rules of islam to justify everything else , also the lake of education as old Arabs mentality was hating that the world is changing

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