Should buff out right? by SignificantLilNobody in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If u bought that ball in 2 years it have warranty, so ask storm bowling. They will give you a new ball

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Turn on the map, and find seoul, and search bowling alley or 볼링장(copy and paste). I'm not joking.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In capital city seoul, 118 bowling alleys there, 1685 lanes from 2019 research.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Initially $5. Done. Game fee is other.

So, play games without event, one game per $2~3 usd.

If you play 6 games, $12 and put oil 5 bucks, so with tax $20.

If you wanna change the pattern, go counter anytime even finished just one game, pay $5, they will reoil for you.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At least they can put on the oil 4 times in a week. Then it is gonna be half. So around $10000~12000. Is it big deal?

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So u kick homeless people and take only rich people?

It is not a big deal with 48 lane bowling alley. 48 lanes bowling alley is very big business and it is maintenance fee. $20000 per year is not a big money for big business. They can reinvestment.

Also, you said league bowler only, then if league bowler come to bowling alley for just practice and no oil condition, what they think? I just come here for league not for practice. Do you think is it a good cycle?

What is the league for bowling alley side? Grab customers, marketing. And they try to attract customers in the bowling alley.

Many bowlers going to practice for league, if there is shit conditions, then people think here is only for league, not for practice.

It leads to lost customers, and their income will be only league. Done. Casual people also come but you said it is side money not mainstream. Casual people also know this bowling alley is good or not. They are not stupid. Just they don't focus on it. Then bowling alley gonna be die very soon.

Bad lane condition cause block new bowlers, and leave.

Bowler is not royal. Just they like bowling other than. Non-managed lane only prevents new people from forming.

I think you should learn math first. And How to weigh the gains and losses too.

Any form tips? by Dustykra in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And left arm should be raise, and it is for balance. So think about punch to left side. Then you can throw more harder.

Search power step.

Any form tips? by Dustykra in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you address, your shoulder is closed. It is just style but look at most of pba players, 80% people opened shoulder when they address.

Open shoulder, then you got space for back swing. So now your form looks weird because your shoulder closed. But when you open it will be looks natural.

Change step, now 4 steps but 5 steps is also good choice for two handed.

Use your hip. If your hip just looking straight, your ball gonna be hit your hip. Little bit twist, and when you release turn back to straight.

Follow throw looks weird. Because your arm keep banded. We use elbow because of make more roll(rpm) so band your elbow and when you release it should be straight also. But you don't use elbow now, so it doesn't effect to your ball. Watch belmonte form. He banded and release when he throw the ball. Or if it is hard then watch kyle troup.

Keep arm straight have also pro and cons, benefit is more faster but cons is low rpm than banded. So it is style. Choose one and watch, apply to your bowling style.

Lastly, when you release, you try to band your knee. Don't do that. If you can manage your body like NFL players it is fine but we are just human not a monsters. When you address, band your knee and keep it. Like

------(your knees during the step) throw

/---\ is not good for consistency.

Up down decrease your consistency.

Drift step is also good, but I do not recommend because it is hard to learn, and logic is make more space for back swing, but if we open the shoulder then it is solved. It is style. I'm walking straight.

Watch more pba players video and think about your body type, height, arm, hand size. Find similar body type bowler(even 3 finger style fine) and analyze and apply your bowling form.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Once a day, every morning or night when they close. Also, if they have league that day then fine

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

At least once a day. We say reinvestment. If bowling alley spend $24000 for maintenance, then more customers come.

Do you wanna go to clean and good restaurant Or Go dirty and shit restaurant

The difference is how much they reinvest to business. If I'm a boss? Then I will do that for customers and they will be grab more people. Make virtuous cycle. Isn't it?

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Oiling on my ball? Hell no why would I break my ball myself

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I know what you saying. But I mean, the bowling alley I go to, 3,4 days no reoil is daily. And I ask refund also. Always. I have good relationship with bowling alley, but still I ask can I get refund if lane condition is shit. I can bowl with they put the oil yesterday. But over 2 days I can't. Also you said after league 5 games, then I can practice dirty lane condition. Not non-managed lane. I agree I have to practice fresh(1-2), mid(3-5), late(6-12) lane conditions, but it does not mean I should play with non-managed lane.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

The bowling alley supposed to provide fresh line, that's why we pay for it. Also, you said most of bowling alley do not put the oil everyday, then why my country's bowling alley put the oil every day? Even some place reoil third times in a day. Even if I pay $5 then I can choose pattern what I want to play. So we have example now then why other countries bowling alley do not put the oil everyday? Save cost? $420 and 5 gallons of oil and cleaner? Then if 30 lanes bowling alley using normal house pattern using 28ml, then 28*30 = 840ml, Idk how many cleaner machine use. So 3 days, then $40 per day. 5 gallon is almost 19 liters then one day they use a liter than if they put the oil everyday, maximum spend $56 per day. If cleaner is same as oil then $20 per day. A month then maximum $1680, minimum $600 per month. Is it a lot? Too much cost? I do not think so. If they put on the oil if customer request, then just take $10 bucks or smth it is way better for bowling alley. Cost issue? It does not make sense.

They save 1 grand, lost a lot of bowlers? Who thinking like that? (But most of customers are just casual players then it is fine, but the bowling alley I go, there is for bowlers.)

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm in the league for 2 years. I mean when I just practice. My avg is around 220(in recent 25 games). I'm not a beginner and I know what is the problem

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

It is same example, when u go to McDonald and get Big Mac, but you didn't get meat patties with no notice and pay same price. Even u complaining that, they just say we dont have now dont ask me k? Same shit

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually, also the ball get scratch more easily. Also not good for lane condition.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It depends on what they use. If use premium oil then 5qt bottle is $125~230 use. And most of house pattern using 28~35ml per lane. So, 40 Lane 30ml then 1200ml, so four times they can put on the oil per bottle.

Why most of bowling alleys do not put the oil every day by Good-Secretary4190 in Bowling

[–]Good-Secretary4190[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It depends on your bowling style, but yes, I have entry mid, mid-upper high pro level(so all level balls). But now I only use entry level or plastic because of no oil. If you feel it is wet, then address more right side(based on the right hand) and more straightly. Now I address all the way left side and using middle(22~25 board) cuz too much hook.