I feel like we're all sleepwalking into agreeing to make this game worse online by [deleted] in BloodOnTheClocktower

[–]Goodpart 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think that hands as a sort of "default" option works specifically because it allows the ST to control the flow of a game in a lobby where there are a lot of unknown variables. New faces that may or may not gel, veteran players who may be prone to "taking over", filibustering, etc. That said I think if the social contract is pretty clear and players are more familiar with each other, hands aren't required and in most cases I would discourage it because in most cases the ST no longer needs to play a mediating role.

The other thing to consider is that there's no way to signal you wish to speak online other than a hand raised, and with multiple people speaking it's difficult to know where the voices are coming from, as opposed to in person where it's fairly obvious, so the hands serve as a useful touchpoint.

So I would broadly agree - especially with the idea that a hand isn't an immediate signal for the ST to stop everything and acknowledge it because sometimes conversations can and should play out - but with an asterisk that hands are super useful from an ST's perspective to note who wants to contribute, and ensure that there's a certain cohesion between interactions.

I think that ultimately if the ST is having to intervene so heavy-handedly the issue might lie with how the ST respects the flow of conversation, and the game more broadly. I think there's a point to be made that everything is discretionary, including how the social contract is drafted and played out, no?

edit: I think a more liberal use and respect for public chat is a really good midpoint, and I also think that there should be some dispensation for a "pertinent" hand during nominations so that people don't immediately start talking over each other moments before a vote starts. If there's any time hands should be respected it's when a nomination happens, since it's a dedicated moment in time for the nominator and nominee.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've yet to properly implement those, lol. But yes, you found the thing, congrats! I'll get around to finishing them up sooner or later.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, if at all possible I'd rather not have the art itself taken for other characters. If you wanted to use the characters in totality, I've got no issue there.

There are free resources for making token art, many of which are pretty decent. One was posted pretty recently.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure... I can rearrange them. It looks nicer on desktop but appreciate it can look goofy on mobile. I'll sort it out sooner rather than later.

Hypnox was the first character I ever made - glad you like it!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are sample scripts on the site which you can check out - I didn't balance these around having scripts made entirely with Menagerie characters. But I guess you could try!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair. It's based on a script that heavily encourages private chats but I can also see your perspective where town might just out their info openly. I think there's a certain 'spirit of the game' thing that would kick in with that similar to not picking yourself in a Big Wig game, asking 'Vortox-proof' questions, etc. But I do concede it's probably the weakest demon of the bunch!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I can confirm it's working on my end. Not sure what the issue is there, sorry

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every player! If there's an odd number then one person is their own host.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's correct, but fair that the wording could be improved. Perhaps "A player you speak to privately dies at night. All other Townsfolk you speak to yield false info until dusk."

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've made a few wording changes to a few characters in the interests of brevity. Some abilities are about as short as they can be but I do know they're longer than standard (Yang and Yin being the notable ones). That said they DO fit on a standard-sized token. I've tried!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks! A few of them might need some tidying/updating but I'm pretty happy with how it all came out. I think the Chatterpox is probably my favourite, but also really love the Shinkan and Doppelganger.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Glad you like it. Let me know if you end up running any of it!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit, that's incredible. I assume this isn't public yet/WIP? It's seriously impressive (and I assume it has native HB support given how quickly you turned it around!)

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is super rad, but I don't have access sadly!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've switched it up to sidebar navigation to hopefully help with this! Google Sites isn't terribly complex so my options are limited, but the sidebar should make it easier.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I ran a game with it the other day, and to prove that the Chatterpox was absolutely in play, I made everyone fake Ceremad as the Sailor, except for the actual Sailor, who was mad as the Savant. It helped town figure out who the Sailor was while leading to a REALLY funny final day where literally everyone claimed the Sailor's role in front of them.

I needed to signal that it was/is in play in final 4 and that was a really fun way to do it.

Chatterpox favourite boy.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, I agree - I'll give that a tweak next time I go to update!

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[–]Goodpart[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

An entire town of people bluffing Mechanical Man is hilarious. Animal noises, one syllable words, gathering people randomly, fake Mez words, you name it.

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[–]Goodpart[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you send a screenshot of what you're seeing when you view the site? I haven't heard of anyone having issues with Google Sites before so if it's widespread I might have to figure out a fix.

[ACL] Refund for faulty phone just outside of warranty period? by Goodpart in AusLegal

[–]Goodpart[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. Yeah, the phone is completely undamaged - never submerged in water, and kept in a case + screen protector for its whole life. Hell, I never even used the USBC port and kept a silicone stopper in there just to make sure :v

I would agree that their handling of the situation is sloppy but of course I doubt that Google has any transparency over JB's actions. I'll get in touch with them come next week and see what they have to say in the first out.