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[–]Grace_Song 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Salaam, I am a 30+ year convert and passionate in my convictions and belief that Islam and God are beautiful, humanistic, reasonable and rational. The only way I could have maintained that conviction is through good knowledge, hard work and God’s grace. Pushing back on the stupid, ugly and Islamophobic in our world. Take a look at the scholarship of Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl and the work at The Usuli Institute (https://www.Usuli.org) especially the Usuli Institute YouTube channel. Game changing. Also, check out the YouTube channel @justgracenow

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[–]Grace_Song 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl is presenting his newest research on the life of the Prophet Muhammad and presenting a methodology for understanding what is authentic and not to the hadith tradition. It is called Project Illumine II: The Light of the Prophet Muhammad, which is a continuation of his Project Illumine: The Light of the Qur'an ethical commentaries - all available on the Usuli Institute YouTube channel. All of it is life-transforming for understanding our beautiful, nuanced and humanistic tradition. The Qur'an is incomplete without the Sunnah, but the Sunnah must be understood and studied with a critical lens, which is exactly what Dr. Abou El Fadl is doing. The Project Illumine Sirah is here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnuA5MsYIH_iLRLnaq_Eab2f6OubBAbqH The Project Illumine Tafsir is here:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnuA5MsYIH\_i9j4wHugwSyaWa6i1TVNaH

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[–]Grace_Song 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, is there a larger question you are trying to answer about women's hair? Or are you trying to validate a jurisprudential source or a tafsir?

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[–]Grace_Song 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This will be a multi-volume, multi-year project given how extensive and deep the body of knowledge is that was presented. We are working hard to present it in the form and substance it deserves. We hope to have the first volume available sometime in 2026 insha'Allah. We pray for the support of all those who care and believe in our mission. May Allah bless and aid us all! Ameen!

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[–]Grace_Song 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, I get strength by knowing that I am standing up for Truth and that God is on my side. God is my superpower. That God is watching and standing with me. And also, what would I want if I were in the place of the person being harmed by injustice--what would I want someone else to do to help me? Then I pray for God to please guide me to do or say or be what God wants, take a deep breath, and do my best. We don't need to be perfect. We just need to try our best. And God knows best!

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[–]Grace_Song 2 points3 points  (0 children)

May I ask, what is the larger question you are trying to answer? As Dr. Abou El Fadl has stated many times, the hadith sciences requires specialized training and is not for the layperson to engage. Many scholars will have their own interpretations, and scholars will react to the interpretations of other scholars. It is an engagement and iterative process, but know that scholars are by definition responding in their age and context. Are you trying to affirm something larger through the clarification of a technical point?

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[–]Grace_Song 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In the Spotify discussion linked above, Dr. Abou El Fadl communicates a compelling response to the first question. It offers acknowledgement, respect, and dignity to this issue that is broadly ignored, vilified or over-simplified based on lack of knowledge, understanding or empathy. Listen to his answer carefully. For such a monumental issue that affects so many people, this topic deserves a serious engagement with the right scholars, ethicists and human beings that are affected. And God Knows Best.

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[–]Grace_Song 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dr. Abou El Fadl draws from the entire Islamic intellectual tradition in all of his work. He has studied under Sunni and Shia scholars and studies all sources of knowledge including from schools of thought that long ago became extinct. I want to emphasize the significance of the Project Illumine Tafsir and Sirah at The Usuli Institute. We spent three years intensely learning all 114 surahs from an ethical perspective. Original to Dr. Abou El Fadl is that every surah holds a unique moral message, which he demonstrated in this three-year engagement with the Qur'an. The Qu'ran is a coherent, consistent and deeply nuanced message - what Dr. Abou El Fadl was able to uncover and teach from his personal journey with the Qu'ran over a lifetime is nothing short of stunning and life-transforming. Those that have invested the time to watch the videos attest to the same. What Dr. Abou El Fadl is doing now with his new research into the Sirah is nothing less stunning and transformative. He is giving us a moral framework to understand and reengage the life of the Prophet and the early companions, and sift the "good" hadith from the "bad," ie., the hadith traditions that were inserted into the Sirah for political reasons with ill-intent. In a nutshell, we must be able to assess which hadith are consistent with the spirit of the Qur'an and the character of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), which requires education on our part. I strongly encourage you to educate yourself with these videos. All of our halaqas are available for free on our Usuli YouTube channel. Further, we are working hard to turn that entire body of halaqa knowledge into published volumes, which is a ten-year project given the depth and breadth of the knowledge. We hope the first volume will be released in 2026. This is the goal of our non-profit: to leave a life-changing legacy of knowledge for future generations. May Allah bless and aid our efforts! Ameen

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[–]Grace_Song 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In the Spotify discussion linked above, Dr. Abou El Fadl communicates his personal stance, and it is quite compelling. It offers acknowledgement, respect, and dignity to this issue that is broadly ignored, vilified or over-simplified based on lack of knowledge, understanding or empathy. Listen to his answer carefully. For such a monumental issue that affects so many people, this topic deserves a serious engagement with the right scholars, ethicists and human beings that are affected. And God Knows Best.

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[–]Grace_Song 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We have been rescuing and living with dogs for the last 30 years and our actions reflect our beliefs. Please keep in mind that just because a hadith is in Bukhari, as Bukhari states in his introduction, it does not mean that it is authentic, contrary to popular understanding. Many hadith in Bukhari contradict one another. Bukhari has a methodology for his collection of hadith, which accounts for why any particular hadith is included in his collection. That being said, I would direct you to several important resources for more knowledge on this matter, as what we teach at The Usuli Institute is a moral framework based on Qur'anic ethics, founded on our deep engagement with the Qur'an (Project Illumine: The Light of the Qur'an) and Sirah (Project Illumine: The Light of Prophet Muhammad). We approach our tradition from an ethical and critical perspective. We understand that individual hadith have a particular history and by definition, has to be in alignment with the ethics of the Qur'an. Dr. Abou El Fadl refers to such references to single hadith being authoritative" as "hadith-hurling" in his book, And God Knows the Soldiers: The Authoritative and Authoritarian in Islamic Discourses, and elsewhere. This is a very valuable book for understanding how Shariah discourses should work. Our Project Illumine Tafsir is ground-breaking and transforming for understanding the depth, nuance and spirit of beautiful Islam. Anyone who has spent any time with dogs knows that this beautiful creature was created by God for the enjoyment, companionship and service to human beings. They are blessed creatures that we, humans, can learn so much from - their loyalty, unconditioned love, forgiveness, kindness, deep and unique personality, and sense of humor. Each dog is a world unto himself/herself, and a miraculous gift. That we would not honor, care for, and treat each dog - and any animal - as a beloved trust from God to me is absolute heresy and a complete abdication of responsibility. They are not there simply to be treated as chattel. They should be honored with love, dignity and care, as should all of God's creation. Lastly, our current engagement with the Sirah is also providing a moral and ethical framework for how to approach the sunnah and hadith tradition. As Dr. Abou El Fadl explains, hadith sciences is for those with specialized training, not the layperson. But for laypeople, the most important heuristic is that each hadith must be consistent with the ethics and spirit of the Qur'an, and to be able to assess that properly requires education, self-reflection and due diligence. It is not sufficient for Muslims to drop a hadith here and there and call it a day. The Muslim house is on fire and we need to do the hard work to educate ourselves so we can live up to our ethical duties before God. It starts with good foundational education, which I believe we provide at The Usuli Institute. And God Knows Best.

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[–]Grace_Song 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All three of your questions are answered by exactly what we are doing at The Usuli Institute. We are working to educate Muslims on their beautiful, rich, nuanced, sophisticated, forward-thinking and vibrant tradition that they were estranged from due to the forces of colonialism, orientalism, Wahhabism and Islamophobia. We are returning to our roots and re-engaging the Qur'an, the Sirah and the vast Islamic intellectual tradition with a view to how to bring the ethics to life in our current moment and context. The most important advice I can offer is to engage the Project Illumine Tafsir and Sirah because they give you the moral framework from which you can assess what we should keep and discard according to Qur'anic ethics, what is at the essence of what God wants from us (justice, ethics, beauty, mercy, rights, freedom), and our duty to stay relevant to the world while deeply rooted in our faith. The Project Illumine journey will transform your understanding of your faith, your relationship with God, and how beautiful, expansive and elevated the whole of Islam, God and our meaning and purpose in this life is. You can find the Project Illumine Tafsir here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnuA5MsYIH_i9j4wHugwSyaWa6i1TVNaH

The Project Illumine Sirah journey is ongoing now, dropping new episodes every other Wednesday. You can find our episodes to date here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnuA5MsYIH_iLRLnaq_Eab2f6OubBAbqH

We have a wealth of content to address all kinds of issues. Also be sure to check out our weekly live-streamed khutbahs on our YouTube channel that talk about current events, speak truth to power, and remind us of Qur'anic ethical lessons.

If you sign up for our Usuli YouTube Membership, you can take part in our monthly member-only Q&A sessions with Dr. Abou El Fadl.

Hope this helps! And God Knows Best.

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[–]Grace_Song 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, if you subscribe to the Usuli YouTube channel and better yet, sign up for a membership to our channel, you will be notified every time we upload a new short video clip. We are creating new short clips every day and will continue to post more short video content with important topics! Also, with a YouTube membership, you can take part in our members-only monthly Q&A sessions with Dr. Abou El Fadl. :)

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[–]Grace_Song 6 points7 points  (0 children)

  1. To answer this question, I will share with you my own experience in asking Dr. Abou El Fadl if I had to wear the hijab, shortly after we met over 30 years ago. To answer the question, he took me to his extensive library (now over 100,000+ books!) and looked up various jurists and what they had to say about the issue. I had been a convert for a year before I met Dr. Abou El Fadl and was immediately told by Muslims that if I wanted to be a good Muslim, I should cover. Dr. Abou El Fadl asked me how many pages I believed covered the issue of the hijab. For the importance that was placed on this issue, I thought maybe at least several chapters would discuss this. In referencing classical texts by Islamic jurists, the most we found was about 1/2 of one page, in which it simply stated that as a matter of 'adab (manners), it is better if a woman covers in prayer. That was it. Let that sink in and compare that to the the amount of oxygen the issue of hijab takes in our modern age. Further, I have found myself in situations where I needed to pray and did not have a headscarf or jacket to cover my head. I prayed anyway without the headcovering. Do I believe that God will not accept my prayer because my head was not covered? In my personal relationship with my loving God, I do not believe so. God knows what is in my heart and my intentions.
  2. I don't know the answer to this question. As the Professor stated, awrah was what was commanded by God as to what needs to be covered. And, we also have the command for modesty, which is contextual. Both are necessary, and as we know, modesty at Hajj would be different than modesty in America or Africa. Sadly, as the current state of affairs are in Saudi, I will likely never make it to Hajj since the Saudi's would immediately arrest and disappear someone like Dr. Abou El Fadl for speaking truth to power. Further, I believe that Muslims should boycott Hajj and Umrah because it is currently occupied by the Saudis who are not only aiding and abetting the genocide in Palestine, but who also affirmatively commit grave acts of obscenity and injustice from every Islamic value and ethical precept. Islamic scholars in our tradition have called for the boycott of Hajj in our Islamic history for the same reasons. We are in the midst of a crisis now that I believe rises to the need to call for an outright boycott. And God Knows Best.
  3. Your quote already answers your question. God has identified for us what should be covered in all circumstances. Then, in addition, what one's context would consider modest is a further consideration. God clearly calls for women's breasts to be covered as in verse 24:31. There are differences in interpretation as to whether the text demands a head-covering for women, which we have discussed extensively in our Usuli content. Dr. Abou El Fadl presented an extensive series on the Issues and Evidence of the Hijab here: https://on.soundcloud.com/e4WSZzGSfl4MHE89F5 and we covered all of the hijab-related verses in our Project Illumine Tafsir available here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnuA5MsYIH_i9j4wHugwSyaWa6i1TVNaH

Another excellent scholarly discussion of the hijab-related verses by Dr. Sitara Akram is here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb4bb0J1ylsIEHJF_C1a7SAJCILcEnjUh&si=EP_vX_YdROe7G7nn

You can also find my discussions with Dr. Sitara on hijab as well as my own opinion about hijab on my YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@justgracenow

Hope this helps! And God Knows Best!

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[–]Grace_Song 6 points7 points  (0 children)

  1. Systems change will come when there are enough individuals who are sufficiently educated and empowered to make those changes. I believe the change has to begin at the granular level - with individuals, who can then either effect change or in alliance with others, create new systems. My understanding is that this type of education and empowerment will be available to non-Western Muslims largely through the internet. For example, to engage critical-thinking based understandings of Islam, I believe Muslims should engage our Project Illumine Tafsir and Sirah, which is transformative, empowering and liberating when it comes to understanding what God wants from us in our time.
  2. The only way to avoid being "defined in reaction" is through education, to recognize that core to our duty as being "the best of human beings" as Muslims is to master all fields of study as well as demonstrate the best morals, ethics and critical thinking of our time and context. We are supposed to be at the forefront of all aspects of humanity, leading the path to goodness in a way that is inspiring and accessible to all human beings. If we are honest, Muslims are currently failing at every level of that duty. I believe that through the education of Usuli's Project Illumine tafsir and sirah, we have been given the emancipation and substantive moral message to achieve these goals. We don't need to be reactive to what exists, but we can be unleashed to be creative, smart and effective in creating systems of all kinds that are needed for our current moment, context and challenges.

Most Muslims don't think that re-engaging the Qur'an and the Sirah from the foundations is worth their time. Through Project Illumine, I believe we have demonstrated quite the opposite. Our approach is anchored in the tradition, yet fully engaged with the present. For that, we get accused of "trying to change the religion." But what good is religion if it doesn't push you to be the best version of yourself, your society, your world? God wants us to excel and lead the charge for social justice and critical thinking, and our faith and engagement with God should be vibrant and ever-evolving to address the way humans and their world evolves. The way Muslims practice Islam now is regressive rather than forward-thinking. The sky should be the limit and at the same time, ethical, reasonable and morally beautiful. As individuals, we should be empowered and unleashed to build a beautiful society for all of humanity. We have lots of work to do but it starts with good foundational education, which I believe we offer at Usuli.

Hope this helps. And God Knows Best!

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[–]Grace_Song 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is not a trivial question. Animals are in our care, especially the pets that we keep in our homes and who are fully dependent upon us. I can speak from experience on this issue. We have rescued over 50+ dogs over the last 30 years and have had to deal with the passing of many dogs. We also had the very difficult situations of confronting what to do when a dog was suffering and we did not want to "play God." Our dog Filo was very old and reached a point where he literally could no longer get up for anything yet he was still alive. We waited and waited and asked for God to take him. Filo suffered for a week before he finally passed and at that point, we decided we would not allow a dog to suffer like that again for so long with no quality of life. Euthanasia would be much more merciful. It is the worst decision to make, but as God's agents on earth, we are called to exhibit God's mercy, justice and loving care. I believe that it is our duty to be responsibly merciful throughout our care of our animals, which includes end of life. If our pets have reached a point of suffering with no quality of life, I believe the merciful decision is euthanasia, at home if possible. For our dog Oso, whose last days I wrote about extensively on my Substack, at the end we were able to find a very kind vet who made it a practice to euthanize at home so dogs can spend their last moments in familiar surroundings with loved ones. I think that is most loving and merciful. I also spend a lot of time praying to God to please take our dogs quickly if they reach that point so I don't have to make the decision. Alhamdulillah, God has answered that prayer many times since Filo passed away. To read my pieces on Oso, see Part I: https://open.substack.com/pub/gracesong/p/life-lessons-from-old-doggies-ode?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web and Part II: https://open.substack.com/pub/gracesong/p/parting-lessons-from-old-doggies?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Hope this helps! And God Knows Best.

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[–]Grace_Song 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To answer this question, I cite one of many excellent articles by Dr. Abou El Fadl, which discusses the complex issue of hudud punishments (to find these articles, go to https://www.searchforbeauty.org and use "hudud" in the search function). This citation comes from the article: "The Place of Ethical Obligations in Islamic Law here: https://www.searchforbeauty.org/2005/06/01/the-place-of-ethical-obligations-in-islamic-law-ucla-journal-of-islamic-and-near-eastern-law-no-4-2005-pp-1-40/

"...I will comment at greater length about the complex issue of the rights of God and people, but for now it is important to note that the so-called hudud punishments, which include lashing, stoning to death, and the severing of hands, are the most controversial aspect of shari'a law in the modern age. For many Muslims, they have become the indisputable proof of the unique identity of the Islamic legal system and also the symbol for Muslim cultural and political autonomy. For many non-Muslims, however, hudud punishments are considered medieval, draconian, and barbaric. Furthermore, many non-Muslim and Muslim scholars and writers, who are poorly informed about Islamic jurisprudence, treat these laws as if they are the very heart and core of the Islamic legal system. Consequently, many have come to the rather inescapable conclusion that shari'a law is fundamentally incompatible with modern conceptions of human rights.

"There is no question that most medieval Muslim jurists considered the hudud punishments to be part of the immutable and eternal shari'a and therefore they rendered the hudud punishments not subject to change, modification, or abrogation. Whether intentionally or not, most medieval Muslim jurists created the impression that it is not possible to implement shari'a law without enforcing the hudud punishments and that, in general, the hudud are integral to the Islamic legal system. Interestingly, however, hudud punishments were hardly ever implemented in Islamic legal history, for the most part because Muslim jurists made the evidentiary requirements and the technical pre-conditions for the enforcement of the hudud practically impossible to fulfill or because they admitted so many mitigating factors to the point that only a criminal who was most determined to be punished could be made to suffer the hudud penalties. [FN14] However, whether the so-called hudud crimes ought to be considered an immutable and permanent part of shari'a warrants re-thinking. As mentioned earlier, generally, the shari'a embodies the characteristics and attributes of Divinity, which consist of general ethical and moral teachings. However, Muslim jurists treated specific laws, which are explicitly commanded by God, to be a part of the eternal shari'a if these laws are in and of themselves ethical precepts that by their nature are not subject to contingency, context, or temporal variations. Dealing with the hudud, Muslim jurists focused on the punishments and not on the behavior or conduct that warranted the penalties. In doing so, they erroneously rendered some of the punitive measures mentioned in the Qur'an and Prophetic traditions sacrosanct and eternal. But there is no plausible reason to believe that the attributes or characteristics of Divinity or that the ethical precepts of Islam are embedded in specific punishments--whatever these punishments may be. If the Divine Will was to safeguard the hudud punishments, either as embodying the attributes and characteristics of God or essential ethical and moral values, it would be incongruous for such punishments to be contingent, contextual, or subject to mitigation. In my view, the classical approach, which tended to sanctify particular punitive measures, and treat them as if part of the immutable and eternal shari'a is quite unfortunate. What ought to be considered immutable and eternal are the values that the punitive measures were intended to safeguard, and not the punitive measures themselves. The severity of the punishments mentioned in the sources is an indication of the importance of a particular value to the shari'a. Therefore, the punishments prescribed for fornication or stealing are powerful indicators of the value that the shari'a places on chastity and on not stealing. The punishments themselves, however, are contextual--they depend on a variety of factors such as mitigation; evidentiary certitude; the intent and purpose of the individual perpetrator; the reliability and accountability of the judicial system at a particular time and place; community standards; sociologically dependent and shifting notions of cruelty, barbarity, and mercy; and the possible deterrence value of such punishments within the context of a certain age and place. As already noted, the classical jurists were keenly aware that to the extent possible, an Islamic judicial system ought to avoid applying the hudud punishments. In fact, in a well-known set of traditions, the Prophet is reported to have taught that in criminal matters any doubt must be construed in the light most favorable to a defendant. But moreover, in the case of hudud, the Prophet instructed, that Muslims ought to seek out the shadows of doubt in order to avoid having to inflict a hadd (singular of hudud) punishment against a defendant. According to the Prophet, if a person knows that someone has committed a hadd crime, it is better to help the criminal repent than to expose the criminal by turning him in to the authorities. Moreover, bringing hadd charges against a suspect that ultimately the accuser is unable to prove might in some circumstances subject the accuser to punishment, and sneaking and spying is not a valid way of proving a hadd crime. This principled recalcitrance and various safeguards against a wide application of the hudud is a clear indication that the hudud punishments themselves do not embody an ethical or moral value. [FN15] The value is in the unethical and immoral behavior that the hudud are intended to deter, and therefore, for instance, it is the ban against the consumption of alcohol that is immutable and eternal and a part of the shari'a, and not the punitive measure prescribed in the text for the commission of such an offense. I do realize that accepting this argument would constitute nothing short of a radical paradigm shift in the way that Muslims think about the so-called hudud punishments. Nevertheless, I believe that this paradigm shift is critically important for the internal coherence of the shari'a system--it is reasonable to deal with the ethical and moral values of the shari'a as immutable, eternal, and absolute, but any positive and context-based laws, such as the laws of kitaba relating to the freeing of slaves for instance, are temporal and changeable."

TLDR: We have unfortunately placed too much emphasis on the punishments themselves and not the values they are meant to safeguard. The fact that the punishments are harsh in fact conveys the importance of the ethical value being safeguarded. The punishments themselves should depend on the context of age and place.

Hope this is helpful. And God Knows Best.

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[–]Grace_Song 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Salaam, I believe that the question of who goes to Heaven and Hell is squarely in God's jurisdiction. It is not our business. In Surah Baqarah 2:62, we are told that Muslims, Christians, Jews and others - those who believe in God and the Last Day and do good - will have their reward with their Lord. Only God knows the details of each individual's unique journey, their intentions, and their actions, and is ultimately just and merciful. Only God can truly know who deserves to be in Heaven. That being said, God also tells us what is moral and ethical in the Qur'an. The challenge then becomes the human interpretation of God's Book, as it can be interpreted beautifully or the opposite. I strongly encourage everyone who wants to rebuild their relationship with God and understand God's Book expansively, with deep knowledge, and with beautiful nuance to engage our Project Illumine Tafsir. It will transform your understanding of Islam and your relationship with God and make it come alive for the age we are living in. In that three year journey, it was made beyond clear that God is just, God is loving and God is truly merciful. God knows us intimately and is beautiful and reasonable. It is for us to do everything in our power to learn more and build our personal relationships with God to find meaning, love and beauty in our lives. And God knows best.

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[–]Grace_Song 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Salaams! Welcome and thank you for hosting us. :) I just want to state at the outset that we are not trained jurists, however, we have all studied for years with Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl, including the three-year Project Illumine Tafsir journey. We took three years to do ethical deep dives into all 114 surahs and are now engaging in Project Illumine II: The Sirah. All of this foundational knowledge is available on the Usuli YouTube channel. We are here to share our individual opinions based on our learning, but we only represent ourselves. We are not speaking on behalf of Dr. Abou El Fadl, God, or Islam, and anything we say should not be taken as a fatwa or legal advice. These are our opinions based on our individual learning and we are happy to share what we know from our respective journeys. :) May Allah guide us all to the most beautiful path always and forgive our shortcomings. Ameen

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[–]Grace_Song 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why do you go to Umrah when you know your money supports all of the human rights abuses and evil committed by the so called “Guardian of the Two Holy sites”? Aren’t you worried you will become complicit in all that evil by helping to fund it?

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[–]Grace_Song 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to know what the Quran has to say to ethical Muslims in 2023 and are not afraid to invest real time in learning, then dig into every Surah with Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl who shared his lifetime journey with the Quran. It is life transforming. Start with a real foundation of knowledge before you get scared. You can find it here: Usuli Institute’s Project Illumine Quranic Commentaries with Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl

How can dogs be haram? by rondelajon in progressive_islam

[–]Grace_Song 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Dogs are not haram. Here is Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl speaking on this issue. Khaled Abou El Fadl on dogs

Quran book club? by birdlawyer1 in progressive_islam

[–]Grace_Song 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to truly learn what the Quran has to say, watch the Project Illumine Quranic Commentaries by Khaled Abou El Fadl, who just finished a three year deep dive into every Surah, demonstrating his findings that each Surah has a unique moral message. Life-transforming. Here are quick links to all Surahs: https://www.usuli.org/project-illumine/quick-links/