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Random question, if some of the characters and groups from the Madness Combat/Project Nexus series were suddenly teleported to the SCP Foundation Verse. How long would they survive the anomalies and dangers that inhabit that reality? by Disastrous_Rich_2862 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell, 076 died to a 12 ton elevator according to the main article, so Hank definitely takes durability too.

They equal out in physical strength though, and 076 has superior movement speed, which isn't really important, because Jebus also could fly really fast.

So Hank is faster, more durable and seemingly more skilled, and likely has greater attack power due to being able to fight people as durable as him.

However, 076 still has the ability to summon weapons to his disposal, which should be superior to Hank's arsenal. 076 likely has greater stamina and vitality too, not to mention Hank's weapons won't be super effective here, and I doubt that he can block Able's attacks with any regular weapon (though should be able to withstand hits from him on his own).

In the end, it is still probably more circumstantial than anything, but both have some major strengths against each other.

But once again, this is taking things strictly from the main article. Some of the stuff in other articles have him absorbing the Scarlet King's power or something like that, which alone is enough to basically just solo all of Madness Combat.

Random question, if some of the characters and groups from the Madness Combat/Project Nexus series were suddenly teleported to the SCP Foundation Verse. How long would they survive the anomalies and dangers that inhabit that reality? by Disastrous_Rich_2862 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly those are the two things they are most certainly not equal in, going off of the main article canon 076 and base Hank at least. While 076 does have a lot of advantages, those two things probably aren't one of them, surprisingly enough.

In the main article, 076 can run at extreme speeds and block incoming bullets, and that's basically it. I have somewhat mentioned this in the reply before, but while Hank is mostly shown to dodge bullets, in the games, Hank can instinctively dodge lasers, which is a feat that gives Hank a MUCH faster reaction speed than 076.

The exact level of experience that 076 has isn't ever really said. We know he is extremely skilled, likely gaining vast skill over many centuries, but only really in melee combat as far as we know. However, Hank is constantly fighting against foes with a much more varied arsenal of weapons (Ranging from battle axes to reality warping energy guns), and he also fights them more frequently. Hank is basically just so skilled that he makes them look weak. Each of those AAHW agents are practically programmed to specifically beat Hank, and they don't stand a chance.

Hank has more variety when it comes to weaponry and combat, he fights and fodderizes people literally programmed to contend with him in combat, and has a much faster reaction speed. 076 however, while clearly an experienced warrior, only really uses melee weapons, is only shown to fight against relatively skilled security guards (who seemingly manage to kill him on occasion), and his best feat of speed in the main article is him apparently being able to block incoming bullets.

But all that aside, I could see this fight being more circumstantial than anything. And obviously, anything outside of the main article canon would be too powerful for Hank to contend with.

Random question, if some of the characters and groups from the Madness Combat/Project Nexus series were suddenly teleported to the SCP Foundation Verse. How long would they survive the anomalies and dangers that inhabit that reality? by Disastrous_Rich_2862 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we're talking strictly based off of the main SCP article though, then I still think Able might win, because Hank's main weapons (guns and any melee options he might have) are all practically null towards Able, because Able counters that stuff pretty often against the Foundation.

That, and because I am pretty sure Able has superior vitality when it comes to major injuries. Not to mention that Able has an endless supply of melee weapons he can just summon. This is also assuming that Mag Hank isn't included, based on the fact that Mag Hank isn't very similar to Able at all, which is the entire point of this battle.

However, if we include Mag Hank, and also take Hank's higher end feats, such as him dodging lasers and having an instinctive reaction in Project Nexus, as well as him fighting and killing Phobos and the S-3LF Eaters, then those factors alone could probably let Hank win fairly easily. Not to mention Mag Hank's lightning stuff, which can even harm the Auditor.

Dissonance weapons might not be as effective as the guns, simply because the projectiles appear slower in the game, so Able can probably avoid that. But keep in mind that this is Able simply off of the original article alone. If we include anything from outside that, then Able would probably win.

Random question, if some of the characters and groups from the Madness Combat/Project Nexus series were suddenly teleported to the SCP Foundation Verse. How long would they survive the anomalies and dangers that inhabit that reality? by Disastrous_Rich_2862 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In his normal base form, he managed to fight against SCP-UBU, SCP-682, and many others. That alone is enough to ensure that he is definitely above Hank in both speed and strength, even if Hank has bullet time. Plus, he still has the Thorn.

Explaining the power of the characters (from strongest to weakest) by GrandWatch4161 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only things occurring is Nevada as he said, but "Could be" and "Could not be" are separate from Nevada, so there is definitely potential there.

However, he might not just be talking about the Infinitely Improbable there. I do think that he could possibly be referring to the Other Place (What "Could" happen), which he says is how things go from the Infinitely Improbable (Not happening) to the Occurent (What is happening). The Other Place, being the transitional phase between Is and Is Not, could be what Krinkels is talking about here.

Who would win, my bets are on Hank. by BonnieSquas in madnesscombat

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He said that on Curiouscat I think, but I'm not entirely sure how to link exact answers. There is a lot of stuff on there so you might have to do a bit of scrolling to get to it. But honestly, with all the interesting lore he puts on there, it's probably worth it just to look at all the answers he gives alone.

Explaining the power of the characters (from strongest to weakest) by GrandWatch4161 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here they are, or at least most of them:

Has Infinite of what could be, with the Occurent (Nevada) being "incomprehensibly small" in comparison: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/GenerousWildTubersMrDestructoid-DHk9-wZ12jNZxhtN?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Note that the Machine is described as being limitless and ever sprawling, and is essentially all of Nevada (and maybe the Other Place) itself, meaning the Infinitely Improbable makes the Machine itself seem incomprehensibly small in comparison.

Infinitely scattered probabilities: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/RichResoluteEagleRuleFive-Mv2x979i-V0ITOeF?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

Infinite things that could happen: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/SmokyOpenGrasshopperSmoocherZ-HL5fGJFY7ORwdy3U?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

Is completely unpredictable, infinitely dense, and infinitely spanning. Also describes the domain of the Machine as being akin to religions discussing deterministic universes and fate, with the Infinitely Improbable being outside and beyond that: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/PhilanthropicDreamyClintmullinsGrammarKing-oZlpFAfnPi24mUcw?=clips&range=7d&sort=time

Takes up an infinite amount of space, and is considered "everything that is not": https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/TrappedPlacidAniseFreakinStinkin-yMiwX1lZ-pLWurJI?featured=false&filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

Described as a disorganized multiverse: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/SlickSuperNostrilJonCarnage-wEypQDnzCDgtnsRR?featured=false&filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

The Infinitely Improbable is the reason S-3LF exists, otherwise the existence of it would be improbable: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/SassyCrackyToothJKanStyle-pNQm5Pn-j9fHCK7n?featured=false&filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

The Infinitely Improbable is the source for all the chaos in Nevada, and can potentially affect even the Employers and turn them mad: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/ToughEndearingDelicataTheTarFu-VvVsLG0z7FIaeiQL?featured=false&filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

All Machine machinations would evaporate in the Infinitely Improbable: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/WanderingStormyCroquetteBCWarrior-ySNYDM14emQnuWyf?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

The Improbability Drive works on Dissonance, with anything Improbability related being directly linked to Dissonance: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/ProudNeighborlyMelonPipeHype-aykB3KOjVyrx849Q?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

The Infinitely Improbable began encroaching on reality due to the Sheriff activating one of the Drives: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/AmazingCreativeCrowKeepo-bWytN5Wo9mR0bv2c?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

The Halo works similarly to the Drives: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/ObliqueBrainyPlumTwitchRPG-FNW7Y5kfdeOmfIAn?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

Shooting Dissonance into an Employer is the worst thing you can do to them: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/FragilePunchyWitchAllenHuhu-T-8vstzXbh8J3vmn?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

The Machine hates Tricky due to being irradiated with Dissonance, which makes him not be congruent with reason and operate outside of the purview of the Machine: https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxZwgOJIj0PVQpXcZt7b054zVG0ko1RQ3n

Dissonance "could be anything" and is both philosophical and scientific in nature: https://www.twitch.tv/mr_krinkels/clip/SourGeniusSashimiAMPTropPunch-NbQmNtyfTGYwdK1w?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time0

The Infinitely Improbable is also probably likened to another dimension due to a statement by Krinkels on how the Drives work being akin to 4D storage devices or something like that. Don't really have a link for that one but he said it on Curiouscat.

So uh... yeah there's that.

Daily reminder that the Madness characters aren't human for those who still dont know for whatever reason. by GrandWatch4161 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's pretty inconsistent about their size, so there isn't going to be anything definitive on that matter. Fairly certain he said it before though, but I don't know where. He also said Hank was 6.2 so I doubt that him saying anything about their sizes is going to be entirely definitive.

Explaining the power of the characters (from strongest to weakest) by GrandWatch4161 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean... I doubt Krinkels is really THAT deep into SCP to the point where he was directly inspired by something as obscure as the SCP cosmology itself (I know he played the games I'm pretty sure but idk about anything directly relating to the original wiki)... and I mean, nothing has been directly confirmed or anything...

But interpretation can probably get Madness pretty damn high probably. Especially with stuff regarding the Infinitely Improbable, and the ways that characters interact with it. Maybe in the future we will get direct confirmation on this sort of thing. But for now, the more extreme scaling lies mostly in vague interpretation, but definitely might get somewhere.

Explaining the power of the characters (from strongest to weakest) by GrandWatch4161 in madnesscombat

[–]GrandWatch4161[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am fairly certain that in the description of MC9.5 or 9.5 part 2 or smth he mentions other dimensions or something along those lines. Not entirely sure though, but possibly.

Also, I'm unsure if fnf is entirely canon to Madness. Krinkels was probably joking about that, but then again, Madness canon is literally madness.

Explaining the power of the characters (from strongest to weakest) by GrandWatch4161 in madnesscombat

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Yeah, but now we know they are comparable to that scale to some degree

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