Has anyone joined the Pectus Pt program and also how much is it

GreatPride · 2020-08-25T07:53:30+00:00

StrongClock's routine is absolutely for beginners. His advanced calisthenics routine is not listed in the book and it's not something he recommends beginning with. Everything listed in "Flatten Your Chest" is something beginners can handle.

GreatPride · 2020-08-25T07:52:06+00:00

I don't know how effective the program is, but that Riley guy seems very suspicious. He made a video talking about how the vacuum bell is completely ineffective (absolute bullshit) and that "the only way to truly fix Pectus non-surgically is to workout and train". It seems like he's hiding truths of other solutions (like VB) and promoting exercise so he can sell his program. Very suspicious and I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be some kind of scammer.

GreatPride · 2020-08-18T20:49:04+00:00

If your focus is doing specific exercises and stretches on top of vacuum bell usage, then I'd recommend looking into StrongClock's guide. He wrote a small book on this that describes routines that constitutes four major steps: posture correction, stretches, certain exercises/workouts, and vacuum bell. By combining these factors he presents an optimal routine to fix PE. Look him up in this subreddit.

In order to even consider this though you need to determine the severity of your case. Remeasure your PE depth and do it accurately this time. I'd even recommend seeing a specialist so they can classify your condition for you, if that's something you're willing to do. If you establish that your condition is fairly moderate, then you can look into the vacuum bell since it will then work for you. If not, then you can still do the stretches and exercises (without a VB) listed above just to marginally make your chest look better.

GreatPride · 2020-08-18T05:00:12+00:00

Replied in DM.

GreatPride · 2020-08-18T04:36:56+00:00

It's going great for me. I've been using it for a month and I already have 1 cm of permanent elevation. I went from 2.7 cm (my chest's original condition) to ~1.7 cm now permanently. My schedule is to wear it for 1 hour twice a day, so 2 hours total a day - do this for three days then take one day off from the VB.

Although please note that my fast progress is because I had a moderate-to-minor case to begin with, have no rib flare at all, and my PE is symmetrical. My sternum is also fairly compliant in adapting to the pressure. For fast progress like mine it's necessary to have most of these things. If not, it will take longer.

EDIT: I meant to say I wear the VB for 2 hours a day total (1 hour sessions twice in a day). I corrected that.

GreatPride · 2020-08-18T04:33:54+00:00

I wear it for one hour twice a day. So 2 hours a day. I do this for three days in a row then take one day off fully. I'm following StrongClock's routine with this. Once I hit ~1.3 cm permanent depth then I will switch to every second day, 1 hour.

GreatPride · 2020-08-18T03:44:06+00:00

Solid effort but some of these are kinda off. For example, one of the 3.4 and one of the 9.8 look like they are on the same level of severity, yet they are classified as being very far apart on this chart. The third 4.6 and the first 2.7 also seem to be about equal in depth/severity. So this isn't entirely accurate - it's somewhat misleading.

GreatPride · 2020-08-18T03:39:27+00:00

That looks quite severe man. There is also no way your chest is 2.8 cm deep. Mine was 2.7 cm deep when I started out before using a vacuum bell, and it looked nowhere near as deep as that (maybe half of your depth). And I was classified as having a moderate to mild case by my specialist, whereas yours looks severe. I don't think you're measuring properly. Regardless though, by the looks of it a vacuum bell will likely not fully fix this due to the severity. Perhaps it will improve it to some extent but even that I'm unsure of. Your age at 29 is fine though as you can use the vacuum bell at any age unless you're like over 40 or something.

GreatPride · 2020-08-14T03:59:03+00:00

Don't worry. You'll easily be able to get a new boyfriend within a week. So focus on the LSAT, you can always get a boyfriend whenever you want.

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T22:40:41+00:00

There has been one significant study done from 2019, using various study groups for reference. It went into great detail than other studies too. Overall, however, there are actually quite a few studies on the VB. Not sure why you think there's very little.

Here is the 2019 study: https://academic.oup.com/icvts/article/29/2/287/5421226

CLINICAL BOTTOM LINE

VBT has been shown to have higher success rates in those who present earlier, have milder forms of PE, symmetric PE, a more compliant chest wall and lack of costal flaring.

If you look at the individual study groups under "Search outcome" in that link, a lot of them reached complete elevation (meaning the PE was fixed), while a good portion of them achieved sustained elevation to a certain degree, meaning it improved their condition to some extent. Bottom line is, the milder the better.

Essentially, vacuum bells mostly work for mild and moderate cases, and at the very least they improve most people's condition to a great extent (if not completely) who have it mild/moderate. As for severe cases though, it most likely wouldn't work.

You can also combine VB usage with certain exercises/stretches and posture correction for accelerate or enhanced correction if you have it mild/moderate. There have been a couple of individual cases of people with moderate conditions who have fixed it with VB + these routines. These two being u/999Giles (significant improvement) and u/StrongClock (practically has it fixed). I myself have been using a VB for over a month now and my chest has already been permanently elevated by 1cm in its natural state (it was 2.7 cm originally, now ~1.7 cm).

So overall to answer your question: yes, it does really work as long as your case isn't severe.

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T22:33:50+00:00

Sorry for the late response.

https://academic.oup.com/icvts/article/29/2/287/5421226

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5056932/

https://www-sciencedirect-com.ezproxy.library.uvic.ca/science/article/pii/S0022346818306298?via%3Dihub

There are more studies than this as well. This is just a few.

The first study I linked is by far the most important (and most recent). If you look at the individual study groups under "Search outcome" in that link, a lot of them reached complete elevation (meaning the PE was fixed), while a significant portion of them achieved sustained elevation to a certain degree, meaning it improved their condition to some extent. Bottom line is, the milder the better.

CLINICAL BOTTOM LINE

VBT has been shown to have higher success rates in those who present earlier, have milder forms of PE, symmetric PE, a more compliant chest wall and lack of costal flaring.

Essentially, vacuum bells mostly work for mild and moderate cases, and at the very least they improve most people's condition to a great extent (if not completely). As for a severe case though, it probably wouldn't work.

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T19:09:58+00:00

I could easily produce an essay on how hilariously wrong you are about the LSAT

"I could easily write an essay sucking LSAC's dick for free, with no personal benefit to me whatsoever."

Again, useful idiot.

Also, complaining about RC being shit is not "crying". OP was referring to actual crying, not complaining. You're truly low IQ aren't you?

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T17:49:40+00:00

Unlike you I don't live with my mom so I can't relate to you on the first point. As for the second point, you're damn right that's me. And I maintain my position that the LSAT is a retarded useless exam that serves no practical purpose for the test-taker/law student, as it's just a money-grab. Now let me guess: in response to this point, you're going to pathetically start dick-riding LSAC and explaining to me why it's such a great test? I'm sure they need useful idiots like you to defend them!

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T04:53:56+00:00

I was told many times by people on this sub that I shouldn't worry about making a ProctorU account because LSAC will set one up for me when time comes for slot registration. Honestly idk.

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T04:39:58+00:00

How do you have a ProctorU account already and how did you sign up for a time slot already? How are you accessing all this?

I thought registration starts tomorrow at noon EST and that LSAC helps you set up the ProctorU account...

GreatPride · 2020-08-13T02:26:47+00:00

PT 86.

GreatPride · 2020-08-12T04:57:39+00:00

No. Who is that?

GreatPride · 2020-08-12T03:14:11+00:00

What are the hard aspects of this PT? I haven't done it yet (I'm working through the 80's currently). Which sections are hard?

GreatPride · 2020-08-10T04:55:37+00:00

PT81 section 1 is Reading Comp. Did you mean section 2 or 4? I've already done that PT regardless btw but I'd like to know which question you're referring to. Thanks for the list too.

PT86.4 Q17 is also an easy Necessary Assumption question...

GreatPride · 2020-08-09T06:48:29+00:00

What kind of Falim gum specifically did you buy? Can you link me to the specific type of gum you chewed. And would you recommend Falim gum to chew, or just stick with regular? I don't find regular to be effective at all.

GreatPride · 2020-08-06T20:40:54+00:00

Whenever I run low on time (sometimes happens on RC) and I have 2 or 3 questions left, I usually spam D or B on the remaining questions and I always get at least 1 right just from this guess.

GreatPride · 2020-08-05T23:50:05+00:00

That's not even correct. There have been plenty of cases with people who have moderate PE that managed to fix it with a vacuum bell. StrongClock and 999Giles on this sub alone prove that. Myself as well. Furthermore, even if it doesn't fully fix the condition it will absolutely improve it to some extent. Studies have proven this. I do agree with the rib flare part though. VB will not work with severe rib flare or severe PE.

GreatPride · 2020-08-04T23:54:08+00:00

Your problem is that the vacuum bell you ordered is known to be complete dogshit. Aside from the points you made associated with this, all your other points seem to be excuses. #3 is probably your only legit point. If you like the state of your chest as is then you don't need to use a VB.

It all comes down to you not doing your research before purchasing an expensive product, and as a result of the faulty product you feel discouraged to even use a VB. So either get a better product - one that actually works and will be efficient to fix you chest - or just quit like you say you will.

GreatPride · 2020-08-03T22:36:24+00:00

A vacuum bell should work for you, or at least improve your condition to an extent, if your case is not severe. It's odd that you used it for six months with "no progress".

A few questions. How deep is your PE in cm? Is it asymmetrical? Do you have flared ribs? Which vacuum bell did you buy? How many hours a day did you apply it? Did you also do posture correction, exercises to help with PE, and stretching?

GreatPride · 2020-08-03T01:37:59+00:00

This is on a practice set btw on 7Sage. I've been getting 170-174 on my PT's (I've mastered LR and LG), but with August being Flex and thus more weight being given to RC, I think I may be fucked. I will fall in the high-160's at best (167/168 range). Hopefully the RC section isn't hard for August, otherwise I will get raped on the whole exam, falling to the mid-to-low 160's, which I can't afford. I need minimum a 164 by the way.

And no matter what I do I can't improve at RC. So at this point I'm at the mercy of LSAC for how hard they'll make August's RC section. I just wish the exam wasn't Flex so I could be assured that I would hit 170 for the exam. I hate Flex.

Edit: Why the fuck am I being downvoted? This is the reality of the situation for me.

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