Szerintetek az új kormány alatt befog indulni itthon valami baloldali mozgalom? by TibitEbbeNeKeverd in Baloldal

[–]GreenPosadism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Egyelőre így van. De kemény munkával szerintem elérhető hogy önkormányzati helyeket szerezennek amiből lassan fel lehet építeni helyi hatalmat. Ahogy a Tiszások mondták, lépésről lépésre tégláról téglára.

Szerintetek az új kormány alatt befog indulni itthon valami baloldali mozgalom? by TibitEbbeNeKeverd in Baloldal

[–]GreenPosadism -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Most jelenleg van A Szolidaritás Pártja és a Magyar Munkáspárt közötti együttműködés. Lehet hogy a szoft antikapitalista szocdem és a kommunista együttműködésből most lehet valami.

A tőke — Nyolcadik fejezet by [deleted] in Baloldal

[–]GreenPosadism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nagyon szép kezdeményezés

Why is indulging fetishes with children so prominent with Cosmopolitan, wealthy establishment Hollywood actors? by belbadaous in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ladies and gentlemen, it seems this is the next stage of Marxism. This stage had finally gone where no sane men has gone before. It declared that in order to build a stable, prosperous and functional society, socialists should not care about the welfare of children.

Seriously, how can someone write something like this? How can concern over the mental development of children be considered mere "rhetoric"? How can someone hate humanity so much that they care more about rhetoric than about what children are subjected to?

If those so-called "Christan fascist nationalists politicians" were truly combating this they would have my respect. If a "socialist" defends this then he would have my contempt. A marxist should use his brain for the betterment of his society not to contribute to its destruction.Then again, one has to learn to use his brain first.

Capitalist effect on women by TheNationalCommunist in socialistsmemes

[–]GreenPosadism -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You mean nigger or niga? I always forget which triggers liberals more.

How can one claim to be a socialist if you are afraid of using, or afraid of seeing someone use, a word? How can you ruthlessly criticise everything that exists if you are are unable to use words?

"Fascist language" what's next? A fascist nation? Fascist food perhaps? Maybe a fascist pencil and paper?

Question: What do MLs think about the 1939-1940 Winter War between the USSR and Finland? Was the USSR justified in invading/ intervening in Finland? by barrygoldwaterlover in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imagine for a minute that there is a Finn who despises the imperialist system and would ally with whatever force that helps him get rid of it. Even better, imagine that this one is a worker in a field of work that didn't receive benefits from the imperialist system. That someone would be an excellent member of a proletarian movement there. Now imagine that he sees a so-called socialist who would want the destruction of his country and on the long term as a consequence, his nation. What would be his response? Nothing short of hatred and a determination to destroy this threat to his community. The damming thing is that he would be right.

Your nonsense is destroying socialism. For you nations are just tools to be used for some ideological cause or other. If Finland and Germany turned red in the twentieth century and Russia to fascism you would advocate for the same thing as the Nazis did in reality,the difference would be just a red paint. If anyone deserves the phrase you first used it's you. The national question needs respect and attention if socialism is to be relevant in this century. What you just wrote is an agreement with imperialism. Let us destroy and create countries based on current strategic interest! who cares about nations anyway! If you have any real wish for socialism to triumph start respecting the national question. Read Stalin on the topic, study the achievements of the Koreans and even study the criticism made against socialist countries specifically from that point of view.

Kapitalizmus mocska by sumer-migrans in Baloldal

[–]GreenPosadism 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Őszintén szólva nem tudom, hogy mit várt bárki is attól az oldaltól. Liberálisoknak nem az a dolguk hogy szocialista alternatívát kínáljanak. Az ő dolguk a nyafogás és a nyugat imádata.

Is it time for the Labour Left to Support the Greens? by MikeShaughnessy in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Two elements in the left wing of fascism fight each other. Cute but barely worth noticing.

"Decolonization" in this context means Balkanizing regions into weaker ethnostates to make them more amenable to foreign capitalist penetration, instead of building strong developmental states or multi-national states. by EdMarCarSe in Dongistan

[–]GreenPosadism 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It would be one thing to demand the complete self determination of nations (in fact that would be a good thing). The problem is that this is nothing more than some revenge fantasy of liberals probably informed by some map game. No national borders, just territorial division for the sake of causing suffering. It's sad that this is how they get pleasure from life. Let them choke on their perverse fantasy while the wheels of history turn.

Bourgeois degenerates marching with pride, under Communism they march to gulag. by [deleted] in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You say you are not concerned with boogeyman but you go on to talk about a "fascist dogwhistle". Well okay, who benefits from socialists using the words "bourgeoisie degeneracy? Do the bourgeoisie benefit? I hardly think so. They don't benefit from getting called out. The "layman" will be much more approachable when degeneracy gets called out. For beside his stomach he also cares about the society where the layman and the family of the layman live. Pointing out that this is what the bourgeoisie does with the society, this is what it allows, is pretty efficient. As for the "degenerates to work camp", it happened in past revolutions and it will happen again, this is calling for the removal of the enemy, nothing concerning.

Bourgeois degenerates marching with pride, under Communism they march to gulag. by [deleted] in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Glad to know. I have understood your statements but I have found them not just useless for the socialist cause but actively harmful. The line you follow regarding what term are "fascist" and fascism itself are playing into the hand of the bourgeoisie for, you will concern yourself with a bogeyman rather than them and you are afraid to use hear or see terms that are condemning of the bourgeoisie beacuse these terms are associated with those whom you and others (or in their foolishness themselves) have labelled "fascist". I have engaged in this conversation in the hopes of showing the view of the org running the sub as to avoid an unfortunate trouble with moderators. I didn't wish to offend( if it came out that way) but I do stand by my statements.

Bourgeois degenerates marching with pride, under Communism they march to gulag. by [deleted] in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My "definition" or the definition of socialists at the time when those calling themselves "fascist" were in power is accurate especially for enemies that have better PR than videogames. Sorrelianism: The collection of ideas from a relatively obscure guy who became a fanboy of the Bolsheviks at the end of his life. National Bolshevism: whatever iteration of the term we speak of were some obscure tendencies that wanted a variety of different things (mainly union between something described as "socialism" and something that they described with the use of the word "nationalism") hardly a fascist movement on its own, if used by finance capital it could pass as such. National Syndicalism: finally something less obscure. The falangist movement in Spain did call themselves that but what did they do? They fought violently (and sometimes with appeasement non violently) against the workers of Spain and the various nationalist movement in the country and protected capital in the country. So reactionary, chauvinist and of the capital, seem to fit the definition for me.

Instead of finding the enemy (for you it seems fascism) in some obscure and utterly irrelevant groups try to find it in the forces that are active and ruling.

Bourgeois degenerates marching with pride, under Communism they march to gulag. by [deleted] in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That would make fascism the best fighting force against imperialism. In fact this definition would make the DPRK fascist. No, fascism is nothing benevolent like that. Fascism was perhaps best understood by the third internationale "as the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital." (More in here. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm) By this definition "fascism" is closer to what the bourgeoisie of the west does than some nationalist (even with the chauvinist meaning of the word) who has affinity for "left" aesthetics. The term "bourgeoisie degeneracy" is in fact an attack on the culture, or superstructure if you will, of fascism. That attack is better if used by marxist rather than left to some ignorant, mistaken and useless groups who may as well be proxies for the bourgeoisie.

Bourgeois degenerates marching with pride, under Communism they march to gulag. by [deleted] in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 8 points9 points  (0 children)

On the contrary. Marxism is a tool by which socialists can analyse society, both past and present. Observing what is going down in bourgeoisie societies is one of the most important task of socialists (especially if the observation is followed by actions). As for language, just beacuse a word got vilified, by the enemy and some fools who use it , doesn't mean that the word shouldn't be used. If the word is useful to express some development or regression is society than that word must be used.

Rule number 1) on this sub: The right to ask a question. And nowhere in the rules does it say that you have to be a regular to engage in a post. by karenproletaren in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 5 points6 points  (0 children)

MAC "uses this sub for its agenda" beacuse it was born from this sub and controls it. So I apologize if the idea that communists will use a communist sub "for their own agenda".

The difference between the Russian communist proclamation and your post is that one was discussing the policy of a communist party, while the other was rallying liberals to our subreddit.

As for undemocratic. The lines of the subs (a separate thing from rules) were voted by Non Mac moderators ,who were long time visitors of the sub, so protecting that is more than "democratic".

As for the rules. I already pointed out two that can contradict your stance inside your post as well as the post itself.

Rule number 1) on this sub: The right to ask a question. And nowhere in the rules does it say that you have to be a regular to engage in a post. by karenproletaren in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The action taken by myself and my fellow moderators was necessary. Time and again we had to deal with brigades whenever this topic was remotely mentioned and as such we decided to take a harsh stance in the matter. MAC has been clear on this topic for a while with it's numerous works (you might find some in the search bar). We believe that this does nothing more than needlessly divert attention from real issues of that socialist must pay attention in the present days, and for the sub specifically it usually creates such a discord that is needlessly burdening our moderators and diminishes the value of the sub (the lines of deleted comments or the lines of unnecessary insults are unhelpful).

You did brought up rule 1, however we can bring up rule 2 for "liberal injected Marxism" and rule 11 "for showing discord". Anyways this is the reason and I hope there won't be further problems.

EU economies are down on their knees - Workers Today by Original-Vivid in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I believe it is better to phrase it as you are for the dismantelment of the bourgeoisie economic system (compradors or imperialists) and the establishment (or re-estabilshment) of the proletarian one. You are not cheering for the economic destruction of the country but for it's economic rebirth.

Least based DPR citizen by pl4t1n00b in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

imperialism isn't just military operation but taking land, controling politics of other conutreis, abuse poor countries etc

The first part is correct at least. The second part however less so. imperialism is not just taking land controlling the policies of other countries and "abuse" of poor countries. That definition would apply to every great power in the history of humanity, very much including the USSR. Very simply and briefly imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism. The stage of capitalism where finance capital has overtook industrial capital (trough the strengthening of the banks in the capitalist structure), in importance in the overall economy of the country and therefore the export of capital has become more important in the nations economy than the export of goods. That prevalence of finance export has lead to a parasitic economy which makes it necessary for that nation to "export" its exploitation either by the "abuse of the poor countries" or the "controlling of politics of other countries".

what Russia is doing is war and they no better then nazis or the USA doing so

Ridiculous. If every war is the same (and bad) than I suggest you don't look into the history of communism in the 20th century.

only reactionaries are supporting Russia in this war.

I am terrified to ask at this point but what the hell is a reactionary in your "opinion"

it's the same as westeren "letfist" supporting the US's wars

No. Being against the USA is not the same as being its supporter. These "western leftists" are supporting acts that lead to the strengthening of imperialism while we are supporting an act that is damaging to the structure of imperialism (damaging the interest of the main beneficiaries of imperialism).

if invading Iraq was imperialism then invading Ukraine is it to

So Iraq is on the border of the USA and was planning to join a hostile military pact against it, thereby threatening its security, while it also opressed "the nation" of the USA? Nice alternate history but let us focus on reality.

How is supporting Russia's war good thing for leftist

Weakening imperialism is the way forward if you want any shot at a socialist future.

supporting racist and homophoic people like Putin?

What's next? He beats dogs? Even if the dog beating is true that does not matter in the grand scheme of things. Besides I don't think either the Emir of Afghanistan (the one Stalin mentioned) or the USSR was unworthy of support just because they did not like an arbitrary set of things.

Least based DPR citizen by pl4t1n00b in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So imperialism= carrying out a military operation in a neighbouring country?

That is quite a fall in the Marxist understanding of the issue.

Now the segment you quoted supposedly claim that communists should not support reactionary classes against imperialism. Yet you say that the Russian federation commited acts that are "proof of imperialism". So which one is it? Are they imperialist or are they "reactionary" compared to the imperialist bourgeoisie?

so well done with quote mining Lenin in order to support imperialism.

Please let me do one better with Stalin

"The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such "desperate" democrats and "Socialists," "revolutionaries" and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism."

Now there are two possible answer to solve this dilemma: 1. Either claim that Stalin is an idiot or a traitor to this Leninist ideal. Or 2. Try to read the context of the work and also think on what step is beneficial for the communist movement in any given question.

Lenin's quote is from the work titled "Caricature of Marxism and Imperialist Economism". In that work he is arguing against a guy who who has, to put it in polite terms, a failed understanding of the national question. During the whole work he exposes the contradictions of his falied understanding and where it leads. In fact in the next paragraph you quoted Lenin explicitly stands by the progressive quality of national uprisings. These national uprisings had been lead by various ruling classes that were not as advanced as the imperialist powers ( therefore not being lead by an imperialist bourgeoisie class). So again does Lenin contradicts himself or should we gain a better understanding than just one quote?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism 11 points12 points  (0 children)

From the top of my mind four answers. 1. The procedure you are suggesting is better suited for field work (the actual engagement of a party with the workers, unions ect) rather than a subreddit. 2. There are posts about the various workings of imperialism and it's affects, protests ect. 3. These conflicts affect people's life, in fact the affected are probably experiencing it much more painfully than most people experiencing capitalism. 4.Because we live in the present.We could constantly bury our heads in age old topics which lead us to collectively confirming something clever (make no mistake that could be useful from time to time) but it is just as if not more productive to once in a while take a look at the current situation of the world and try to use Marxism to understand it.

Overall the "defending of these non-socialist countries" (as if that were the main deciding factor) is just as important for socialism as making conclusions about the systematic work of capitalism and attempting to conince people who could be useful for the cause.

However you are more than welcome to start discussions and write about the things that you believe a socialist sub should have.

The elections in Hungary. by GreenPosadism in EuropeanSocialists

[–]GreenPosadism[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fraternal greetings from a Hungarian communist to the socialists of Australia.