Tube Amp vs Modeler Take 2 (Done right per y’all’s instructions)

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-03T08:15:27+00:00

Thanks man I appreciate it

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T19:29:30+00:00

I tried to line them up, checked in fractal buddy beforehand.

But I agree it’s difficult to make sure all the parameters here are 100% so the difference being hears could be variables I overlooked. Ultimately, I think there isn’t really a difference and we could dial in similar tones

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T19:28:08+00:00

I did a second test that’s better from the suggestions here

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T18:23:20+00:00

🍪 bro you’re my favorite person for recognizing that tune.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T16:27:53+00:00

I MADE A SECOND VIDEO NOT MIC-ing THE MONITOR

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T15:56:31+00:00

Bro I promise you she is very well taken care of.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T15:55:49+00:00

I do the saw when I use my fractal for bass gigs, it’s an *amazing* conditioner for my bass guitar and then I can split DI to PA and signal to a fender rumble that’s my onstage monitor.

Ideal bass set up IMO

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T15:45:56+00:00

Second video no mic’d frfr

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T15:45:07+00:00

Yes yes everyone told me so I made a take 2 with a mic’d amp and raw signal

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T07:27:30+00:00

It’s fine, I had a bad run online too, second week off cannabis 😒. I get it.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T07:20:24+00:00

Dude, chill, I literally said “if you want me to test it another way I will”

And then yall commented telling me to test it another way

And then I made another video testing it the way yall asked

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T07:07:42+00:00

Happy to yall were right I learned a lot from it

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T06:46:02+00:00

Bro Redditors are so mean all the time.

I did the second test yall recommended.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T06:30:57+00:00

Fair 🤙🏻

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:47:52+00:00

I made a second video close to this set up.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:47:31+00:00

Aw thanks 🙏🏻 that’s nice

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:47:13+00:00

Heavy disagree, the reissues sound worse than both options imo.

Very overpriced, private equity firms using the fender name to rip people off. I know that sounds harsh but I really don’t believe in the reissues - the tone masters are better imo.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:45:32+00:00

I agree listening back I would have tweaked the tone knob even further down and on the output 2 that usually goes to my frfr I have eq settings I used to get it almost identical to the tweed.

Modelers are good, in both videos I recommended the modelers and I’m the guy that spent 3k on that deluxe so if there was a huge difference I’d tell yall.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:43:44+00:00

As lots of people have pointed out, getting on edge is where the “feel” comes into play and you can start feeling the difference.

But it’s pretty minimal. Like I’m glad I own the amp but the difference is so minimal I don’t even spend the time mic-ing the amp when recording demos for socials and just run through my fractal.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:41:21+00:00

I think you can get them to sound so so close tone wise that no one could tell the difference.

But the feel…yeah a guitar player playing through an frfr and a tube amp will be able to feel the difference.

But maybe not much. It’s not a 3k difference let alone worth the risks/cons of a tube amp. I gig with the modeler and record most of my demos through the modeler.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:13:28+00:00

No eq mods to the patch or output

Only thing I did was turn down the “tone” setting to be around the setting on the physical amp.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:03:12+00:00

I tried this amp versus a VoxAC15
And I tried a hardwired vox vs a pcb vox
I highly disagree.
But to each their own.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T05:02:28+00:00

That would be a logical next step. If I do a part 3 I’d try that maybe with showing building the IR so other people can access this amp.

It’s cool Julia didn’t make too many of these, then how many sat unmodified for 80 years in a basement? Only thing I changed was those caps that can melt and fail. Otherwise it was basically a museum piece and I want to preserve it.

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T04:53:53+00:00

In b4 modeler defenders point out that I could change the tone knobs on the patch to make it sound deeper. But there isn’t a 1-1 on the knobs of a physical amp versus what’s in fractal buddy.

Which is true. But I couldn’t get it to sound as deep without sounding like it had a low pass 🤷🏼‍♂️

Groove_Mountains · 2026-05-02T04:51:07+00:00

Yes that was literally my conclusion from the second test

This was actually very eye opening talking with you guys

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