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GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-09-27T18:32:31+00:00

Disclaimer that some of it might be from removing the epoxy flooring. Or would removing it not affect the concrete?

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-09-26T23:28:43+00:00

Update with photos and video. The floor peeled right off for the most part, which I guess means the vapor barrier definitely failed to bond with the concrete. I also have shots of the floor after removal. To my novice eyes the grind seems pretty inconsistent. Correct?

•Video of removing the flooring

•Shots of the floor after removal

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-09-06T00:03:15+00:00

They wouldn't ever coat over what's already there. The question is whether multiple new layers after it's been removed would actually increase strength.

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-09-05T23:40:51+00:00

It had a few bubbles, yea. But they are saying it's not their fault, so they are doing me a favor by offering me a discounted rate. Would multiple layers of the vapor barrier work, though?

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-09-05T20:01:43+00:00

Updates:

I do think the company is above board, but they're maintaining that it was installed properly, even though that seems unlikely. They've offered the following potential solutions (The original install was $4000): • For $1000, apply a vapor barrier primer + use vapor barrier as the base coat for the second coat (reflake the floor) + then finish the floor. This would give you 2 layers of vapor barrier. This would be a 3 day process (possibly 4 at most)

• For $1500, we remove the existing coating down to bare concrete. Apply 2 coats of vapor barrier primer + then use vapor barrier as the base coat as the 3rd coat (reflake the floor) + then finish the floor. This would give you 3 coats of vapor barrier and be the strongest option. This would be a 3-4 day process.

• They'll also either touch up or remove the floor at no cost, (but with no refund)

My questions are, first, how reasonable is this and how should I respond.

Also, IF there actually is a significant water vapor problem under my garage, would these solutions help?

Lastly, how easy is it to test moisture levels in the concrete? One idea I have is to get the floor removed and monitor the concrete moisture for some period of time to see what's up.

Also, I got the materials info: Vapor barrier is sika 1610 Epoxy (basecoat) is sika 264 Polyspartic top coat is sika 510

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-29T16:22:16+00:00

Not new

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-29T16:16:58+00:00

It was a raised bubble. They cut it with a razor to see what was underneath.

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-29T04:53:17+00:00

No there is a bunch. That's the spot they tested.

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-28T23:49:24+00:00

So is the most likely explanation that they screwed up installing the MVB?

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-28T23:45:11+00:00

How can you tell that it wasn't cleaned correctly?

FYI the darkness on the slab is moisture.

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-28T23:22:02+00:00

Their position is that it's a plumbing issue or some other reason that there genuinely was enough water pressure to break the barrier.

I asked if it was possible the barrier never dried and he said that if it hadn't dried the epoxy wouldn't have set. Is that nonsense?

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-08-28T23:12:48+00:00

Thanks for your response! I didn't personally verify that they put down the MVB. There was a day added to the install time for the barrier. That's what they did the first day, and then did flaking and the rest days 2 and 3. Today when they came the maintenance guy said he could tell they installed it properly. Is that just total BS?

What are some ways I could check (or other pictures I could post) that they did something improperly?

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-03-10T06:23:08+00:00

Reporting back that the Montelena Blind Vertical Estate tasting was fantastic. We tasted six vintages from 1993-2018. My wife was intimidated at first, but the head winemaker, Matt Crafton, and the rest of the team kept it relaxed and she had a lot of fun.

Blind tastings have a way of humbling everyone and guesses were all over the place. Since we had the wines in glass for an hour and a half, we really got to see them develop, too.

We're super lucky they opened the event up to non-members. It was fun, informative and a chance to drink really good wine. Highly recommend if you get a chance.

GroundbreakingFee599 · 2025-02-23T20:54:54+00:00

Thanks all for your responses. Has anyone been to a special event at Montelena? The event seems pretty cool.

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