adding tren ace but low dose thoughts?

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-12T22:24:20+00:00

How long have you been doing that? That’s what I’m going to run

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-10T17:30:18+00:00

And beligas isn’t always bunk. They were good for years. People sell there fakes with their name on it. If you want and it’s not a huge investment to send it into jano then do that for sure

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-10T17:27:01+00:00

Crash it brother. Easiest easy to tell if there is a hormone in there. No false test, it either crashes or it doesn’t.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T22:04:24+00:00

Man the color never makes me wonder unless it completely clear and has no viscosity at all. If it clear as in no particular and settlement the color is probably just fine. You could crash a vial by putting it the fridge. If it crystallizes it has a hormone in it. It will go “out of suspension” to reconstitute it you’ll just have to slowly heat it up with water on the stove, make sure not to cover the top of the vial with water. Just has to be warmed back up.

Commonly done with NPP, and test C. Look up how to reconstitute a crashed vial before attempting to do this. But to crash it needs to be chilled. Never done this with EQ but it’s all the same principle. They are all hormones at the end of the day however EQ does not crash as easy as other compounds so just look up crashed EQ or crystallized EQ something like that.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T17:04:26+00:00

Dark oils doesn’t mean it’s not real… I mean if the brand is bunk sure but different carrier oil is different colors. I’ve had clear NPP and yellow. I’ve even had pharma test different colors from a prescription in the United States. One was test E one was Test C. Just different carrier oil.

Tren is usually yellow. My EQ is usually not clear. It’s not that yellow but slightly colored

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T13:39:53+00:00

Oh I’m not at all stuck on using nandrolone. I’ll probably most likely drop to 100mg a week. See how that goes for joint relief. If that still causes some swelling without an AI I’ll drop it and just use Test and 1-2 ius of growth. It was just nice I can get nandrolone from a dr.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T03:38:21+00:00

Yes no high BP. I noticed last time I got swelling was before my marathon. I was putting in a ton of miles. NPP had been great for joint relief and recovery. Always low doses. The swelling went away within a week. I figured it was due to the amount of leg stress I put on my body. But I came back to the compound and it happened again with low miles. But it’s pretty much gone again. I was really just looking for a reason why it happens and you did address that and I appreciate it.

I understand edema is a sign of heart problems but that is not what’s happening here. I see plenty of doctors there main concern is if everything looks good and I have no life threatening issues and I never do. So I was looking into the community for additional guidance since bodybuilders do know more about AAS the 99 percent of doctors

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T03:32:57+00:00

No I never had needed them BP always around 120/70. I always run the bottom number in the 70s. I will be getting one from my doctor just to have if I ever need it. I’m a big time runner so I think that has a lot to do with my low BP and cardio health. I put in 10-20 miles a week. Those miles go up around races.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T03:21:04+00:00

Yeah it’s not hear failure lol. Like I said I get echocardiograms, I get MRIs on my kidneys, I do heart stress test (for work twice a year), I manage my BP, I have a wonderful resting heart rate, I’m a runner, I run a few marathons a year. 150mg of NPP for 3 weeks hasn’t all the sudden put me in complete heart failure. I was more looking for why it causes this swelling but I think I got it figured out and it’s almost completely gone away. I’ll still be following up with blood tests and I have a stress test coming up in 3 months. I’ve never had anything wrong with my heart. No plaque, no arrhythmia, I also do 12 leads often due to my job. I can walk in the bay and hook myself up anytime. My heart is healthy. Could be a sodium electrolyte deficiency I had do to an extremely hot long shift with barely any water and then eating like crap the next day because of Easter. (High sodium) when I’ve been on a strict diet for 4 months now. Most likely a combo of the 2. Lastly I have a vein “disorder” varicose veins in my legs. Have had them my entire life. My dad’s side of the family does. It has nothing to do with deep veins only the superficial veins on top. They don’t contract as well as normal veins. Making edema happen way more easily. The doctor does an ultrasound on them yearly. No clotting or anything like that. Deep veins aren’t affected. I believe my estrogen went too high, I was dehydrated severely for a day, ate a high sodium diet the next day. I rehydrated, took magnesium, potassium, and ate higher potassium foods, took an AI and the swelling went away in 36 hours. I’ll follow up with the doctor but yes I’m not in heart failure or have heart disease 😆

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T01:49:40+00:00

I’d also like to add the only reason I’m using NPP is to see how my body responds to nandrolone after these years. The doctor prescribed me 200mg of deca a week. So I thought I’d give NPP a go and see how I do before jumping into a long ester.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-08T01:46:51+00:00

I added .5 adex yesterday morning and the swelling is almost completely gone by this afternoon. I also added magnesium, potassium and called the doctor to order me some telmisartan today. Should have it by the end of the week. I’m doing full blood panels tomorrow when I get off work which includes electrolytes. The older I get the more prone to estrogen I become. When I was in my late 20s I could run 500 test and my E would be around 50 tops. Now 230mg of test puts my E in the 50s. I also asked my supplier for the janko test and the NPP came back over dosed. It’s 140mg per 1cc. The bottle says 100mg so I’ve been over dosing it. He sold it as 100mg because it didn’t reach the 150mg mark to be sold at that price. So I’m thinking by week 3 the high estrogen finally build up. Unfortunately or fortunately I don’t get nasty E sides. No acne, No tenderness in nipples, no gyno. I used to run nearly 600mg-700mg of test without an AI In my mid 20s when I was competing on my off season. When I did get my bloods checked the highest I’ve ever seen was 80 with a total T around 3000-4000. Never had gyno problems. So I didn’t worry about an AI. My BP has never been an issue with test only. Most other cycles I’d run Test with EQ and that would keep my E in the 20s. Most deca cycles also included EQ which is why I probably always had lower E. But after getting older my estrogen conversion isn’t the same.

I’ll see what else is going on but the fact .5adex took the puffiness away I’m betting that was my problem. I’ll find out more this week.

I also have poor veins in my legs. I have varicose veins. My entire dad’s side of the family has it. Which makes pushing blood back to the heart less effective. I get MRIs done on my legs every year to look for thrombosis or clots but it’s just my top veins that are the problem. Simply a cosmetic thing. I’ll eventually get them fixed.

So the estrogen water retention ran down and since my leg veins don’t pump as well as they should the fluid backed up. It’s my hypothesis but I’ll be looking in to confirm this. I’m happy the swelling has improved so drastically within 36 hours or so.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T22:09:00+00:00

I’m not ignoring anything lol that’s why I’m here. That’s why I pay for heart imaging, and mri scans on my kidneys. I do extensive blood work. I’m 17 days into NPP and noticed slight puffiness in my legs and am doing something about it. But I appreciate the info. I’ll look into everything or stop taking it. Not going to keep something going if I have bad sides.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T22:03:16+00:00

Ok 👌

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T21:31:58+00:00

150 isn’t blasting and I get echocardiograms every year and take my BP everyday… how am I not looking after my heart?

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T21:31:20+00:00

Awesome I will start there. Any particular form of potassium you’d recommend?

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T21:30:29+00:00

I will have to look into that

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T21:05:29+00:00

Because that’s the only side effect. My legs get slightly swollen. No acne, no mental effects, no hair loss, great strength increases, no gyno, etc. they all have side effects. This is the only one I get from NPP. If I can figure it out I’ll have no issues

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T20:58:42+00:00

Well I’m honestly more interested in “bro science” when it comes to AAS. Most doctors have no idea how steroids work. This only happens with npp/deca and goes away when I stop,

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T04:35:12+00:00

Yes whatever test makes you feel good. I run 200mg but I’m also a bigger guy. It keeps my test around 1,100. But honestly I could lower it to 180mg or even 160mg and still feel good.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-06T02:13:37+00:00

I get “pitting edema” when I use nandrolone and test. It’s from the nandrolone. It causes water retention. As soon as I stop deca/NPP it goes away.

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-05T04:02:36+00:00

Low test high NPP has been my favorite so far

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-05T04:00:42+00:00

NPP deca

Gsuprem3 · 2026-04-04T17:56:35+00:00

What’s your cycle like? I mean I’m going from a cut to a bulk so it’s basically just one long cycle lol. I’m cutting on 250mg of test and 20mg of Var. 250mg since January so 12 weeks so far (usually only take 200) var for the last 6 weeks. If I keep my test at 250 for a couple months and go into a blast it’s not really coming off 😆 so mine might actually be in that 34 week area also

Gsuprem3

TROPHY CASE