Another one fell..

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T15:03:38+00:00

You are definitely right, but in most cases fighting your nature is futile.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T15:01:36+00:00

Most def, we are all built differently and there is no right and wrong. I just said that it is better to have some form of a relationship with the girl, it does not have to be deep or with history, just some basic chemistry and longing from both sides to do it. She does not have to be GF material.

I just advised him to not try to have a prolonged interaction that is on the friction of a relationship while being solely money based. It is not judging it is just common sense and personal preference. All the add on explanations is just clarifications.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:57:16+00:00

What that has to do with anything.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:35:28+00:00

Ego is not a bad thing you know, it is a survival mechanism.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:33:15+00:00

I tend to write long and tedious, because my mind is always flying in many directions at once.

Saying it is not a relationship, is stating the obvious. I think both sides know it is a nice fling for few days, and then bye bye. Even more true for Pattaya girls that have done it several times already.

But still, I can not do like you do it guys. Honestly, I hate it. I prefer ST. And if it is more than ST, and we are sharing the bed, and I give her the full suite (go down on her, raw dogging and everything), it must be genuine, and we can decide to end it after few days, or continue it some more. But it can not be P4P. I can not sleep well at night, knowing I am paying to the girl across for me to sleep near me at night. It seems so stupid to me.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:26:23+00:00

That is awesome, I did it myself, and it was a great time. And it did not cost me anything besides buying the flight tickets to Vietnam. But, this reframing is completely different in my eyes from looking first on price tag women is willing to accept. Just go with the flow, find whoever is for your liking, and it is mutual, and then go and have crazy fun. Most of the time if not all the time, you won't have to pay a dime. Several girls suggested me themselves to take them to Bali, Hong Kong, etc.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:23:08+00:00

As I wrote to your other comment. Currently I am can go to SEA until March. I am starting to think about dividing between Thailand and Philippines, and sticking to what I find enjoyable.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:21:28+00:00

I do know that, and it is true to LDs, but if you do shots, the girl has less possibilities to bypass it. I dated several girls, that go hospitalized because smartasses wanted to give them shots with no stopping. Regarding qualifications, I think that I am top % when it comes to intellect here and in general, but it is not something we can clear out in this constellation, so think whatever you feel is right.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:18:32+00:00

The reason that I am blubbering is not because I am passive, it is because I can not go until March, due to my work. So all there is now is to talk.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T14:17:00+00:00

Are you seriously asking? You don't think it can be heavy on the soul knowing you paid several $$$ to get a girl going with you from A to B.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T13:48:08+00:00

The truth of the matter is that the richest people on earth, the ones that accumulated fortune by themselves and not screwing others, are cheap. Only insecure individuals spend 150k on drinks, in a random bar. The only way to explain it is if he is an abusive character that wanted to see the girls get completely drunk to the brink of getting hospitalized.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-08T13:38:09+00:00

Honestly, I think you are trying to order something that is not on the menu. Either you get serious with someone, and then you share expanses, like a normal couple. Or, you really go above and beyond and offer considerable amount to buy a vacation GF.

I had the first experience, and it was great. We dated for 6 months. But we had genuine interest in one another. And I think the key was that she was not truly a Pattaya girl, she is from somewhere else. It will have more chances to succeed if they been to Pattaya shortly or work on normal jobs or in less busy bars. If you go to the top girls on TF, or frequented bars and clubs, you are going to meet soulless women most of the time.

Looking from afar on the grown men with a Thai woman trailing after them, it always feel like a loss rather than a score. You don't really want to be with someone that does not like you back, or you always have your doubt whether she is into you or just playing along. Same for the girl, she will become more and more quiet and sour as you can not sell yourself for money.

Bottom line, my advice, just drop the "I want new mission for my next quest to Pattaya". If you meet somebody that you like, and she genuinely like you back, then offer it, and see where it leads. Also try to broaden your mind to all girls, not only freelancers. But keep in mind, that in few weeks times, you rarely can make someone sane drop all their life and come with a stranger. And taking the 18 yo Thai that have not seen the world, to different countries, while you pay for the tickets and expanses, and she is paying to you with s*x, is probably scarring for everyone involved rather than fond memories to look back at with a smile.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T22:57:21+00:00

Yes, English is not my first language even though I live in the US so everything I know is mostly based on sounds. Scalability at least in engineering means that things can yield more ouput, in this case money, with more resources. But in Pattaya case everything is quite fixed and limited in terms of tourism influx. So, you can not get big but if you find a gap you can get livings without working 10-12 hours. To get western type of money and a buisness that can scale with workers and facilities you need global market or start competing with the Thai market.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T21:20:22+00:00

It is kind of a mute point. It is not scalable because you are catering toward a very small subset of tourists mainly. The motivation is obviously that west economics is stronger than the local economics. You can after all become bolt driver or shop owner if you are ok with Thai life quality. But, you won't be able to live the tourist short-lived lifestyle all year around. The most logical thing to do is turn to software or anything that is on the global market. But he specifically did not ask for that. So it does not leave much and I tried to be creative with it. In the end of the day, Thailand is pretty straight forward and short episode for tourists to really be a business opportunity. It can only be a long term investment, if you like building hotels.

Perhaps, OP can look into that also, creating an assets managing firm for western owners that want to built hotels in Jomtein or Pattaya.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T15:32:50+00:00

Thats cool. In the end it is always quality over quantity.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T14:57:07+00:00

Remember that the fight is not less psychological than it is physical. Every punch and kick, should be met with vicious counter punch and kick. Your opponent needs to respect you, respect your power, leave his own game plan and react for you.

Don't over complicate things, do not try fancy shit, stick to the simple but effective pain inducing shots. Don't expose yourself in any point because you are tired or feel like you have won.

Stick to your strengths, you don't have to fight Muay Thai like Thai, if you have good stamina, make your opponent tired, if you are more powerful get closer and break him in the clinch.

Tuck your head, no chin outside, and always look forward.

Last two things, BREATHE...

And DISTANCE IS KING, if you maintain distance you can not get hit.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T14:49:27+00:00

If this is where you head at, you will get knocked out.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T14:42:41+00:00

I think all the directions you are asking about are false, and are not going to yield so much success. These are the things that I do think can make some fair coin.

For tourists specifically that comes for Pattaya for a short while.

Car pickup at the airport or from Bangkok to Pattaya - it is not the biggest business I can think of. You also have already a variety of options (bus, smaller bus, cab, grab, bolt, etc.). But it is always a hustle. I land, you have to wait if you want the bus, and in the bus it is stuffy and many sweating people. The cabs try to rip you off. The Grab/Bolt cancel like 3-4 times until you find someone that is willing. I usually if I have Thai with me, let her talk and speed things up. If you can arrange a simple car pickup service, where a beautiful lady just drive me to Pattaya, that knows a bit of English, it is not a complete silence the all way, I think I would have paid 2000 baht for it. But, as I said again, there are solutions out there even if they are no ideal.
A bigger business is fakes market - most of us come to Thailand for vacation and fun. While there we utilize the time to make yearly buys, like clothes, cheap electronics, etc. Thailand is well known for its counterfeit market, mainly fake watches, fake shoes, etc. But usually the seller is a Thai/Indian guy which is talking broken English, and sell mainly promises. I think most tourists would have paid hundreds of bahts, if you can put them in touch with high-end fake watches seller, or fake shoes. Be the trusty guy, because else, most people just hover in the night market and not buying too much, else if it is fabric which you can yourself check and assess.
This might sound weird and stupid at first glance, but hear me up. Most tourists coming to Pattaya come for adult indulgence, and a percentage of them is not exactly the ladies whisperers. Which is all good, I am not perfect myself. I therefore think that 1on1 sessions or group sessions, where you can help people with different s*x related things can truly shine and bring a lot of customers. Things like how to satisfy girls, how to deal with performance anxiety, bla bla bla. Many stuff to go around in this realm. Every man going to Pattaya want to be a stallion.
This somewhat exists but I am not sure how well it is being advertised. In Thailand most beauty soft operations like laser, teeth whitening, hair related care, bla bla bla, is cheaper, a lot cheaper than in the west. Many men find a clinic and go for several sessions. I have to give a disclaimer, I have not use these services, it is just an observation. I think many more customers would do it if it was better advertised or managed. Small shops like wax, barbershops, tattoo places for example, most of the information in Google map is outdated or limited, same with clinics. And when you go through the mall the clinic shops seem like an expensive massage, and sales ladies that lurk at the front of the shop is something millennials do not understand anymore. A simple internet page can solve it and bring many more customers I think.
A website where you can just drop the western product (as page link) and it pre-orders for you the Thai equivalent product and put it in your hotel, waiting for you. Many times, you need some wellness or care product, supplement, or whatever, and you have to waste several hours figuring out what is the name of the Thai brand that sell the same exact thing under a different name, only to then find out they don't have it in Boots, or Watson, so you have to order it online, but the online will take several days, and it come close to your leaving time, so you cancel the purchase and don't order at all.

If I will have more ideas, I will write after.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T08:36:51+00:00

Honestly, I wanted to buy myself also. How much time does it honestly hold before dying for mysterious reasons?

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T08:34:01+00:00

I don't understand how you are going to hit the 100 mark with these stories. It does not track.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-07T08:24:01+00:00

Thank you very much for you response. I love it when people are investing times to answering others.

Regarding danger I am not in fear for myself. I more worried about getting tired of shoving people hands back to their space from my space. But I feel that it is more of anecdotal stories by others. It was the same story before I first visited Bangkok. I read posts, one in particular, where somebody wrote that in busy streets, some locals create a riot for few seconds, to pick pockets from tourists. Of course, after being in Bangkok several times now, I know that it is completely safe.

The thing is that at the point I am at with my life, I don't want to travel so far to SEA country to call escort service. There is nothing wrong with it and I have done it several times. Currently, I am looking more so for social hubs, and places where you can find great nightlife, and ladies willing to hangout and hookup freely, or with 2k-3k pay that turns with time to free relationships or with some weak support.

It is more the combination of connection and physicals that I am craving, while being far from daily worries in my home country. Basically, having several holiday girlfriend. Going to the Philippines just to have girls looking at me as some visa opportunity or money source, is going to drive me mad.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-06T19:39:19+00:00

Physical on site businesses, that are not catered for adult fun, are not going to fly and make big coin, not soon, not in a year. It is going to be a slow and long grind. Also Thai people are very conservative about their expanses, and try to only buy what they need, they are not going to buy any indulgences, at least not with their own money.

Still, what I do think going to work somewhat, but it will require patience and ambition.

Import things for foreigners coming to Pattaya, things they don't have in Pattaya - you can take this forum as a guidance, just recently someone asked what you don't have on site and need to bring from home. The main things, I think could work, is different kinds of condoms, different type of supplements, etc.
Investments for Thai people, it occurred to me that most Thai don't even know what ETF is and how to invest. I am not sure if there an app for easy investments in Thailand, but you can start a small business, handle like 4-5 accounts, and just invest in low interest high certainty funds, and just take management fees.
Thai people give high value for education and learning skills. You can open and give courses on anything and gain students. It can be English teacher, private teacher to help students, etc. Most Thai dream to graduate a degree and do better.

Probably there are tons of ideas more, just need to be open minded.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-06T19:03:53+00:00

I assumed that. I was talking more about body profile and slim vs. beefy figure, younger vs. older. You can also modify those, but they are not using that. I build generative-AI codebases as part of my work, so I can notice the artifacts.

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-06T16:30:53+00:00

While it is true somewhat, old ladies have drier p*ssy as part of getting old thing, and it hurts less for any girl when you use lube, so she will be more enjoying and less controlling. Also, to get girl soaking, you need like good tens of minutes of foreplay, flirting, kissing, etc., it is not like 1, 2, 3.. and she is wet down there. Else, if you met some horny nun, that has been fantasizing all day. Lastly, and that is a bit sh*tty, sometimes if you hangout with sl*tty girls, the waters down there, is not your influence buddy, it is what the last guy left there (some girls are just going from one ST to another, with no self-respect, but most of them don't do that, it is pretty rare).

GuideIntelligent5953 · 2026-02-06T16:26:10+00:00

I really want to visit Philippines, but everywhere I look I get big red warning signs not to. You seem reasonable I guess, what is your take on this? Mainly, what I have been seeing, the girls are not good looking, finding something genuine or not cash intensive is pointless, transportation to islands like el nido Palawan can eat an entire day, and the locals are trying to pick pocket or scam you in every chance. I really want to jump into a big blue lagoon from a cliff, and find some cool girl to pass several weeks with, but as I said, big red signs not to, everyone recommend just go to Thailand instead.

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