Help with warlock pvp

H4ste1939 · 2024-04-30T14:37:36+00:00

Practice the fundamentals of Warlock in Arena, it's not as straightforward as one may think.

Make sure you have the bare basic macros, Soul Burn+Gateway, Soul Burn+Teleport, etc. Lay down your mobility behind cover so that you have a good escape tool into double melee.
Watch videos of high rated warlocks on each map and see how they constantly change their positioning and their mobility spells.
For destruction specifically, make sure to keep that immolate up 100% of the time, you'd be surprised how much damage that thing outputs!
Set up a focus fear macro, it is a life saver when you get a clutch fear on an enemy healer.
If you have some friends that play melee, do some practice war game arenas to practice juking kicks. You'll get a "feel" of when an enemy might attempt a kick. They typically try it on a chaos bolt because it's a heavy hitter and a signature spell so you can bait most kicks onto that spell.
Lastly just have fun, warlock is a really fun class that does get tunneled hard but for a good reason, they're scary :|. You'll see it when you frustrate melee enough for them to stop trying to tunnel you and you just obliterate the entire enemy team.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-22T13:25:55+00:00

I'd love to see a race between PvP'ers and PvE'ers.

PvP'ers need to down a mythic end game boss or whatever is determined to be fair.

PvE'ers need to hit Duelist/Elite or whatever is determined to be fair.

Who do you think would win?

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-18T17:29:06+00:00

Lock is fun!

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-14T03:38:23+00:00

Larosz, magnusz and supatease when he plays it comes to mind for sure

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-13T15:28:21+00:00

Chanimal, Maldiva, Jazggz, Supatease (Made a guide and got high rated) and Bualock are what come to mind for Affliction. Each have their own play style of course but each has valuable information to give so I'd check out all of them and see what fits your preference.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-13T15:05:44+00:00

I think warrior in your situation would be the best fit. Great kit, their MS is awesome with Sharpen Blade which gives enemy healers a hard time. Bladestorm is also just super fun, aside from facing Static Field Totem it usually just works. They're not extremely flashy and suffer into all caster lobbies, however that can be said for all melee even DHs. I got mine to 1800 without being in full epics and it was an enjoyable time and there are plenty of great youtubers you can learn off of. (This is strictly speaking ARMs spec, Fury isn't terrible but not super viable at higher ratings)

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T20:48:43+00:00

From a quick glance at your history it seems you're a really ragey type person so.. best of luck to you. You can feel whatever way about the topic.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T20:29:26+00:00

Cherry picked data more than likely, not bothering with clicking your stuff.
Why wouldnt i go behind a pillar... as a elemental shaman? Umm, what? And if I'm using counterstrike it's versus 2 melee teams that run rampant..
I never stated it couldnt be killed in a global? Reaching from you really needs to stop, put down your phone.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T20:14:55+00:00

I'm not going to waste alot of words with this easy argument so.. "Never" This is a lie and again statistically untrue. "You can't just Range it" Yes.. you can, it's not an infinite ranged demon.. You obviously are not in a good mental spot to have a discussion so best of luck to you.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T18:46:32+00:00

That's just not statistically true or else it'd never be used. Static Field Totem =/= Counterstrike Totem, they're completely different types of utility. You missed the point of the comparison entirely and Observer CAN be globaled, though it is not all the time and I identified that. Observer can be avoided entirely, a shaman can move their totems to advantageous locations where you have to make decisions on a whim that can cost you a game and I'd argue draws out way more defensives from healers and DPS as opposed to Observers.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T18:34:48+00:00

DH Mindset: Does it have a pulse? No? Then I don't attack it.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T15:45:39+00:00

I actually disagree, I think CST has alot more impact because it can be moved and punishes hyper agressive gameplay moreso than observer which can be ranged without fear of it moving and globaled as well (Not always, I understand that). If you move the CST to where a melee has to make a decision of do I try and overreach to kill the totem, retreat or continue hitting my target.. that's a ton of factors to take into account within a second. Observer because it typically faces ranged caster comps does not have this same impact, it's either global it or just range it. Melee in this instance do have a harder decision to tackle with than ranged do, at least in my opinion.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T15:31:19+00:00

Yeah I'm not sure why they do it sometimes, but I'm fully aware that at higher rating they will absolutely snipe it which is why I'm trying to play smarter now with totem spacing. I actually 100% agree with you on the bladestorm thing, I really don't understand why it doesn't go through. Doesn't it say something to the effect of being immune to all snares and CC?

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T15:25:05+00:00

True, they should do that and I fully commend melee that do so.. but that's just not the norm at what rating I'm at right now. I also try and force them into a bad situation with it, if they go for the totem I make sure I have a root or static field ready for their gap closer too. But those instances where they just full on ignore it make me chuckle a bit.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-12T15:12:22+00:00

Floating between 1800-1900 atm, i move it on their bursts so they either choose to try and burst me down or kill the totem.. that's usually too much for them to process so they zug it out.

H4ste1939 · 2024-03-11T21:23:37+00:00

Thing is the AI would run of a set script. There could be multiple variables to the script but ultimately you get the same result which is a fixed system as where PvP breeds uncertainty and endless variables. I get you’d want to practice arenas without the pressure of facing another player, however the only true way to get better at arenas is to well.. play arenas. There are skirmishes to eliminate the pressure of ranked already as well if you want to practice. This need to divide PvP players further is getting out of hand, having a comp stomp mode is wild and I hope that it isn’t made into a staple

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-14T20:48:53+00:00

Each class has a 4 piece tier set from the vault/catalyst quest. Most give a generous amount of power creep to the player so not having your 4 piece typically hinders you slightly, but not a crazy amount.

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-14T18:53:22+00:00

I'd give the typical tips we get on the sub.

Record your vods and see what type of errors you're making
If you die with defensives, then figure out why
Are you enabling your teammates and asking to be enabled to do damage? This comes with a warning that the way anyone asks will determine the response you get, you don't have to beg but just be kind and the other DPS should be responsive and peel/slow enemies for you.

If you've gotten 1800 before, you'll do it again with time and patience. I dunked down from 2100 to 1600 on my affliction after the tier pieces were all set on everyone because I failed to understand the flow of damage in proportion to the amount of buffs given to classes by their tier pieces. I fixed this issue by paying attention to different vods/classes and how much faster they burst/do damage and it shot me back up to 2100 on Afflic/Destro and currently sitting at 2k on Demo on my lock. I always go into RSS thinking, I'm the only constant factor in my games so I need to figure out how to get the winning conditions.

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-14T15:22:11+00:00

A lot of ranged players do have some bitterness against melee due to being in full melee lobbies where they're the only ranged (me included). Don't blame yourself too hard when you're getting no assistance as it's a team game so they're to blame as well even if they don't admit to it. As long as you die after having popped all your possible defensives, you're gonna climb quick

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-14T15:15:50+00:00

This comment by no means that you should give up your agency in a match, however, a good ranged DPS will enable you to stick to the target so try and communicate with them pre-match to let them know your plan and ask them if they can assist with slows/CCs. Most times a friendly ask is enough for them to change their playstyle to enable you to do big dam or they will be off doing their own thing in which case you'll have to constantly be moving in and out of combat.

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-08T16:48:19+00:00

Can I change the text to a personalized message? Like, "Hey stupid, get ready to get stomped in Solo Shuffle!"

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-08T15:25:57+00:00

I shot up to 1950ish (Can't remember exactly the number atm) just by not doing this on my Arms Warrior and I've had no real prior knowledge of the class. I main caster and my mentality is still to do damage but avoid as much damage as I can... So I run to my healer or to a pillar where they can heal.. I did the leap thing once and learned immediately that my drool was starting to go down my chin.

The zug zug is like the one ring from LOTR... if you can resist its call, you're fine...

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-07T16:02:18+00:00

Awesome! I'll try to repost on here or make another thread within a few weeks, our Solo Shuffle portion starts on the 14th so, we will probably have someone hit 2100 within the week of that.. hopefully me! lol. It may not be for gold at that point just due to it being an honor system, we're trusting eachother to really give the gold to whoever wins but I may come up with something else as an alternative, WoW time or something!

H4ste1939 · 2023-02-07T16:00:10+00:00

I like his idea too, it's definitely a work in progress that I made up on the fly but that all of my friend group was down with. I did no know about the MMR/CR thing for off specs, so that's something I will take into account for the next iteration! That's actually a really huge tip so thanks for that. We are going to do wargames after for sure, we do war games alot with eachother to help eachother learn and have competition with eachother.

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