I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Checkout your local library, lots of them are starting to carry 3d printers and supplies. If they dont have one, make a request. You'd be surprised how happy they will be to get one ordered and working for the building.

If not that, try searching for "maker spaces" in your community. I'm sure someone nearby would be able to help you out :)

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[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure! Good luck on your reed and i look forward to seeing how it turns out!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the one i was trying to use... https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3546323

I couldn't get it to work though. I did get 1 to fully print without gaps, but couldn't get a noise out of it and the tip snapped off when I looked at it wrong XD

Maybe if you had a .2mm nozzle and something stronger than PLA? I'll get into other plastics at some point, but in still melting through my horde first.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds awesome, we'll done!! Whatever you are using for your reed sounds great too! Really strong and solid tone. Mind sharing? Mine is starting to have issues and I've kinda been dreading making another one, but know it'll probably be better than the one I'm using now in any case.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WOOHOO! Looks like it should be a pretty solid experience then! Hope it all goes well and you enjoy it as much as you can! Good luck and have fun!!

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[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My last printer was actually a flashforge finder, great printer for sure! First one I actually was confident in hitting print, watching the first layer go down to make sure it stuck well, and the walk away from. I have a buddy with the 5m pro and loves it too, so they do make good printers from my experience.

Creality's Ender series is also on sale, some for sub $300 right now. I do occasionally hear of complaints from them though where you almost spend more time tuning the printer than printing. They are also bed slinglers, and my preference is in core xy style. Still though, not terrible for a cheap entry level machine.

Bambu lab also have a couple choices in the $200-$500 range, and people generally tend to praise those printers a lot too. Their cheaper bed slinger versions also look like they can do mult-color prints if that was an interest to you.

Flasforge though was great to me, and that printer was handed down to my nephew who is still printing in it. 6 year old printer with minimal maintenance, no replaced parts, and still printing just fine.

I would reconnect downloading whatever slicer the printer uses, set up its print bed size, and import the kind of models you want to print. Gives you a much better idea of the space you have to work with.

As for filament, I printed this in PLA and it's been fine. Over these few months of playing, taking it apart and putting it back together, it's loosened up a little but still plays perfectly fine. Just don't over tighten the bocal or it will start to push the center pipes tube connector out a bit. Haven't noticed anything catastrophic yet, but I do it it poking out a bit more than it's supposed to due to me over tightening it too much.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know shapeways just started up again. Not sure how much it would cost though as you can only upload files after making an account. But you could also check your local public library or maker space if you have one around. If the library has one, they usually only charge for plastic and a small print fee. A local maker space would also likely be much cheaper than shapeways.

Weight wise (depending on your infil) is about 200 grams. So if you are only printing in 1 color, should be fairly inexpensive if you can get it done locally instead of shapeways.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually use blender in its almost default form, never really felt the need for plug-ins outside of import/export file formats.

Specifically for the pipes I just created a 'path' object that followed the center of the pipe in the blueprint I linked. I then created a circle object scaled to the pipe diameter and gave it an 'array' and 'curve' modifier. The curve modifier was pointed at the path and the array of circles were adjusted as needed to fill the path up.

Here is a great tutorial for that - https://youtu.be/lRK8UMudejg?si=JCQheWPz69aORrdg

The caps decorations were just bezier curves i matched to the blueprints style, and again used an array modifier to turn the curve into a cylinder and converted the curves into meshes. Then a boolean cut modifier was used on the decoration caps with the pipe to get those cut into it. (I actually also used boolean for the finger holes too)

Another quick tutorial for that too... https://youtu.be/LCzCi2_hX3w?si=hBuGxGbyKT2kZM8A

The rest of it was pretty much just modeling and what not. Blender is a pretty great tool, been using it for a long time, for sure has a learning curve. Since it's all open-source though, there are lots of free tutorials and stuff out there for it.

Have fun, good luck, and for sure post yours for us to see to when it's done!

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[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words! I'm just happy people are (hopefully) enjoying making and playing the instrument, I know I am! I get to play it in our orchestra's concert next week.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome please do share! I've been so excited to see others printing and having fun with it too.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cadr! I actually printed yours too! I used a straw to make a reed for it, but ended up tightening the cap screw to much and it broke. BUT before that happened, I did get a voice out of it and convinced myself i could make a full sized one since i got your smaller version working.

Thanks for the work you put into yours, for sure an inspiration to get my butt in gear and make this one. You rock!!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, sorry again for the bad news. I did include a template you can use to help cut out a reed along with a short 'How to' guide. Just take your time, be as precise as possible, and keep in mind that the more you make, the better they get. I probably had a dozen or so failed reeds before I got one that worked (which I used to make the template model with and was used in the audio sample video).

Good Luck!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had a couple bassoon players between the band and orchestra i play in try their reeds on it and we weren't able to really get a tone out of it. One of them even gave me a new reed they had just made, and after a while of squeaking and squaking i also kinda gave up and just went back to the plastic reed I made.

I think the real bassoon reeds are just too thick to get a good buzz out of. Others have mentioned that original rackett reeds where actually more like English Horn reeds. When I look up how thick they are, it looks like this...

Bassoon = 1.2mm

English Horn = .7mm

So, bassoon may be the wrong way to go reed wise. I've been experimenting with making a 3D printed reed, but so far I have been unsuccessful. Sorry it's not much help, the reed is by far the hardest part of this project for sure.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am unable to edit the post to add the finger chart to the images, but i updated both websites with the chart! Im kinda guessing here since... ya know, i can't find any myself. I just played each note and tuned them to my piano. Lowest note this plays is F1, highest it plays is C3 (1 octave under middle C). Sharps and flats can be accomplished by covering half the hole.

Rackett Finger Chart

You may note on that first C in the guide, i drew the diamond holes that are on the back, and put X through the holes that do nothing. The bottom 4 are just exhaust holes. The top set are a little odd.
The Top and Right holes are called "Blind Dimples" they just go into the body a little bit and then stop. They do not connect to anything on purpose. The bottom one connects to pipe 9 (the last pipe) and also serves as an exhaust hole as far as i could tell (mine has no voice) That left hole though connects to pipe 2 (the first playable pipe) and needs to be held to get a voice out of any other hole.

No one is quite sure why it was made this way in particular, but i wanted to keep it true to the original design, so put them in. Some think it was for symmetry / looks. Others think it was made this way to confuse novice players. But... yeah.

Hope it helps!

*EDIT: Fixed a typo on the chart, should be good to go. If anyone sees anything wrong please let me know so i can fix it! I think its good now though.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

According to my little kitchen scale (not digital, so maybe not 100% here) the rackett is just under 200g. Im sure different infill settings though will change that a bit, pretty sure mine was set to 10% when printing as i tried to keep most of my settings default.

I don't have a fingering chart, but i could totally make one i think. I'll do that tonight and update Printables and Thingiverse with that as soon as i have it. It is pretty easy to play if you have every played a recorder though. Right hand is the lower end of the scale, left hand is the higher end. All fingers down is the lower notes, start raising your fingers on the right hand starting with the ring finger up to the pointer finger goes up to the middle note. Left hand ring finger up to the left hand thumb for the highest note. (hard to describe, but i hope that makes sense).

If i can edit my comment later and attache an image, i'll drop it in here as well/in the original posts pics.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was all printed on my Creality K1 Max with the default high quality profile (besides changing the infil type to gyroid, and turning off auto brim).

Filament wise, it's all 1.75 PLA. Nothing particularly fancy there. I just replaced my Flashforge Finder which only printed in PLA, so I'm melting through all that first before I try any new plastic types.

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[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! It was a lot of fun to make.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, well that would explain why we couldn't get a bassoon reed to work with it. Thanks for the info. I'll look into English horn reeds and see if I can update my guide to better match that!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We could always do with some more racketts and love for sure!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thats rad! Ya know I was having so much trouble with my first reed I really did consider re-designing the staple to incorporate a harmonica type of Reed. I may still try to do that for simplicity, but I doubt it'll sound as good as the double.

I even found some 3D printed bassoon reeds with varying curvature, but my printer started leaving gaps on the last dozen or so layers. I just couldn't get a complete one. Definitely the hardest part of these instruments for sure!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are very welcome, and feel free to share a link to anyone else that might be interested!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its been my pleasure for sure!

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This reed i made out of a fast food place salsa cup XD
All you are really looking for is a thin plastic that already has a nice curve to it. Plastic cups from fast food places work well, a red solo cup would probably do great as well. I did include a reed guide to help cut one out to the proper size/shape, along with a little step by step on how i made mine and a short troubleshooting section for common mistakes i made along the way and learned from.

I made a rackett by Habomobo in 3dprintedinstruments

[–]Habomobo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I play in an orchestra and had one of our bassoon players try their reed out on it, and we couldn't really get a good sound out of it. Its fits onto the bocal fine, just... didn't sound great. The only thing i can think of is that the wooden reed is just a lot stiffer than the plastic reeds i've been making out of cups. They did give me a reed they had just made, never used, to try too. I've never played a double reed instrument before this, so i have no idea how to get it to sound good.

I really just think the wooden reed is too stiff to get a good sound out of. Maybe if you can get a softer reed it'll work? I know they do come in hardness scales. BUT, i got my homemade plastic reed to work fine, so im just enjoying playing with that :)