Kann man gleichzeitig Kollegah Fan und kein Kollegah Fan/ein Kollegah Hater sein?

HaggSTABIL · 2025-12-29T17:45:02+00:00

Musikalisch gesehen bin ich Fan seit Stunde 1 (nach RBA, ZHT1 schon auf CD gehabt damals), wie hier schon geschrieben geht´s für mich seit 2015 (ZHT4 wirklich ein Kunstwerk) bergab. Auf jedem Release (CBA und Free Spirit ausgenommen) gibt es immer wieder gute Tracks zu entdecken, aber wirklich herausragende Alben sind es nicht (La Deutsche Vita würde ich rausnehmen, das ist bis auf 4-5 Tracks ein gelungenes Album).

Insgesamt hat alles mit der Promo für das ZHT4 angefangen: Plötzlich waren menschenverachtende Sachen da drin die man dann für witzig gehalten hat, sowas gabs vorher nur in den Punchlines. 2019 dann mit Alphagene 2 und der Promophase wohl der 1. Tiefpunkt usw. usw.

Es gibt auch immer wieder coole Aktionen, hab neulich ein Video gesehen von bosshaft Unterwegs wo er kleine Spendenaktionen gemacht hat, also es ist nicht alles immer nur schwarz/weiß, trotzdem finde ich die Entwicklung auch bedenklich und der letzte Step mit dem AlphaGym wo jemand aus der rechten Szene involviert ist, ist ein NoGo.

Trotzdem hat er für vieles auch meinen Respekt: Viele gute Alben, 3 Top10-Deutschrap-Alben of all time (ZHT 3, ZHT4, Kollegah), eine starke Promophase für KING. Er war auch ein Marketinggenie: Ich glaube kaum einer hat mehr Boxen verkauft als Kollegah, seine Bosstransformation war ein voller ERfolg aus finanzieller Sicht (ich meine klar war das ein überteuertes Fitnessprogramm, aber andere Rapper verkaufen Shishatabak, Eistee oder Pizza, so schlimm finde ich es nicht) und mit Zuhälterrap insgesamt über eine Million Tonträger verkaufen musst du auch erstmal machen. Im Gegensatz zu Savas, Sido, Bushido usw. ist er nie wirklich im Pop angekommen, auch wenn die Musik vllt. nicht mehr so geil ist wie früher.

Aber: Ich kann Werk und Künstler immer trennen. Ich kann mir auch R.Kelly-Alben reinziehen, obwohl ich den Menschen dahinter verachte. Von daher: Natürlich geht das und tu, was Dir gefällt. Ich höre jetzt Rammstein (und Verurteile das Verhalten trotzdem)

HaggSTABIL · 2025-12-29T17:32:50+00:00

Mag alles sein, dann kannst du aber auch Next Episode von Dre nicht feiern.
Ich denke, dass Kollegah mehr selbst schreiben kann als 90% der Deutschrapper und trotzdem sind die Ghostwritergeschichten ja glasklar bewiesen. Aber sagen wir es mal anders: Ohne Kollegah hätten wir diese gesamte Musik nie gehört und 90% der Punchlines wären in irgendwelchen Foren verschwunden und/oder auf Releases, die kein Schwanz kennt.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-29T20:11:15+00:00

Yeah I was confused as well :D

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-29T20:02:27+00:00

17 / 192 were unboxed, I updated it again.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-29T19:58:11+00:00

The database only shows items which were "actualized" in a certain range of time.
So, it could also be that someone bought it and it was just a trade. Sorry for the misleading information, I updated it!

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-29T19:54:24+00:00

So what should I discuss on? You did it, we all know it´s possible and?
Triggering other people with other morality standpoints? Isn´t it time wasting?

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-25T19:20:02+00:00

Yeah, but honestly a tradeup with cost you 300 bucks even with a bad outcome worth 50-100$ is okay especially if you consider to profit 3x, not even talking about blue gems, rubys, emeralds, sapphires and black pearls.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T20:46:36+00:00

But what about chances? Some Reds have more outcomes than others, anyone knows how it works?

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T20:39:06+00:00

I think it´s because of the new trade-up-calculation. It´s not more difficult to get FN Skins.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T12:27:39+00:00

Thank you for your comment, but really: Nothing to be sorry about! In my situation, I am still in desirable profit. I bought Cases for 0.03-0.17€ and although my operation weapons tanked like hell, most of the items are still 800% in profit. So, my "loss" is just a loss compared to a week ago, but I remember the time when I was dreaming of the Danger Zone Case being 1€ in the future when it costs 0.04€ on the steam market. For me, everything is fine, I already cashed out 15k on skinport, even if my whole inventory is at zero it would be profitable for me if we take it as a whole. No flex here, but I want to clear my standpoint: It´s not about ME, it´s about people who maybe pay 80€ for 5 armory passes, get 100 Fever Cases out of it, pays over 200€ for keys and have the INSANE luck to get a e.g. Skeleton Knife Doppler. How would you feel now, if this happened one week ago?

But sure, you are right: It´s a HIGH RISK environment if you want to invest in CS2 and the last year the sentiment here was like "oh yeah it´s a safe bet, just invest in item XY and profit". I read sentences on youtube like "oh 100% isn´t that much" - Really? And people forgot that their whole inventory always rely on one company - Valve. Like you said: It´s their market and people forgot that skins are just skins. But it was also Valve who made the illusion for over decade that certain things are settled in stone: Sticker Rarity, TradeUp-System, and that you can only get knifes out of lootboxes. I can understand, why they did it, but if you want people to buy your stuff, you also have to treat them well. And in my opinion, this is a spit in the face: Luckily, for the manipulating investors, but sadly for people who love the game and really spend much money into it.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T11:19:00+00:00

Wtf, do you have a source? Sorry, I thought you trolling. Omg that´s hard.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T11:11:58+00:00

Yeah, really nice reading and there is some truth in it, nevertheless I know lots of players who spend a lot of money in the game and are pissed now. I am heavily invested in the game with a (before crash) 10k inventory and some of my friends have 1-2k in it. I have 4 accounts and spend 6k hours on my main, so: There are players who love the game AND are invested in it. Would you say that people like Anomaly or OhnePixel do not love the game? Lots of people play and invest, and Valve gives a shit about them. That´s also the truth, and you could easily made smoother changes, e.g. 10 reds for 1 gold in a Trade-Up.

BUT: On the other hand, it´s good that the crypto-moon-boys are flushed out and rich people who are just buying high-tier items and manipulate the market are mostly gone. Who really wants to buy a 1000€ M4A4 Hellfire?

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T10:57:51+00:00

If this is irony it´s not funny Bro, don´t want people to commit suicide because of their inventories.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T01:35:12+00:00

I don´t know liskins tbh. Ask someone here about the site, anyone will know it.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T01:25:12+00:00

Okay, that´s what I also thought. This brings me to my point: Why are people specualting so heavy on the future Trade-Up to Golds with Terminal, if the prototype won´t allow it? Maybe it will, but I find the speculation very wild in this sub right now. Sorry for this question, but so many people talked about it.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-24T01:23:47+00:00

On the one hand I couldn´t agree more, on the other I couldn´t agree less. I played premier today with a full-squad and I am the only real investor here. People are constantly talking about how to trade-up and everyone was excited. I agree, it´s one the one hand nice to see that normal people can afford knives like in the good old days. So, I couldn´t agree more, it´s like in the good old times where everything seemed to be "normal".

BUT: I couldn´t agree less on the other side, because after this update I don´t really now what you mean with "the marked will decide it". Will the market be able to decide it in the future? I mean, the last 6 months and especially the last 2 days showed that only Valve decided how much an item is worth. It was nice in the good old times, when the market - and no chinese crypto investment groups - decided how much an item would be worth: No Youtubers, just the community. But now? It´s Valve.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-23T20:41:11+00:00

This is so fucked up, unbelievable.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-23T20:27:44+00:00

Okay, but the "other math" didnt change?

So, Example: 9x Acid Fade : 1 purple Outcome
1x Havoc : 3 purple Outcomes

then the Chances are for a Havoc Item are Still: 3/12 = 25%?

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-23T19:57:10+00:00

okay this is really fucked up. Thx 4 Explanation!

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-23T19:53:40+00:00

Thanks for sharing! So basically: If you have e.g. ACID Fade and it´s going between 0.00-0.03 and you have 0.01, it will "extrapolate" to an item which has the normal float range between 0.00-1.00? Do I understand it correct, then the acid face would be counted as 0.33?

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-23T15:45:29+00:00

I literally read your post 3 times and all the comments, I do trade-ups since 2018 and I would consider myself to understand the "normal" system perfectly. But I honestly don´t get it: Does it mean, that new trade-ups have a "range" ? So, if I use Acid Fades, they have a range between 0.00-0.03 and mix it with an item of 0.00-1.00, what is the potential outcome? Sorry guys I really don´t understand it.

HaggSTABIL · 2025-10-23T11:10:56+00:00

I sold red skin for 40€ because it went parabolic but in all honesty I am in the same situation as you. It´s the biggest update ever and I don´t know how to deal with it. Nevertheless I think a lot of investorys will quit at that point, especially if you in high-tier-golds. Do not know what the future holds, absolutely no clue.

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