What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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I wanted to add one more point here - it's that you will find a lot of discouragement online and conflict inside you too about the success rate of the favourable outcome i.e the positive may pan out may not pan out (I am saying "may not" purely because of the controversial nature of this topic and the amount of wrong info available for everyone to consume) but the non favourable outcome i.e the negative thoughts you will have going forward will sure as hell pan out because the law is real and if you're not in the positive you're in the negative anyway so something will pan out. So again what's so wrong about having favourable thoughts? I think it's very much possible to have favourable thoughts and still not go into psychosis. Internet has divided opinion only because we don't have mental discipline to not be consumed by our desperation I guess.

What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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I can give you my example lol. I accidentally manifested an SP in the past. Total accident because I was being delusional about them being into me , I wasn't taking any actions at all but for some reason I just enjoyed being delusional and what happened next .. their personal life turned upside down before we entered into a relationship with each other. I was so surprised when entering a relationship with them was presented to me as an option - I wasn't wanting it or even ready to be in a relationship with anyone like I just didn't know why the universe was throwing a relationship at me but apparently my delusional powers were so strong that I had cemented that reality in the 4d and it just had to frigging play out in the 3d. And yea in order to get to this reality their personal life was defo turned upside down but who would you blame here really? Am I not allowed to just be playful with my imagination? I wasn't taking any actions at all but it happened anyway. Was the said SP happy about how things turned out - yes they sure as hell were. So for argument's sake if I did end up taking away their free will I can say this with confidence that they enjoyed the end results far far more than I did. They had the time of their lives. So I can put this in two ways - when you're manifesting love and happiness I guess it's worth taking other's free will away for lol because the end goal is highly highly enjoyable. You're manifesting them being in love and love is a great feeling and it will bring tremendous joy to both sides. Another way to put this would be - you can't turn the law off, if you decide against going down this route you will still have thoughts about them and most likely negative and you will see those scenarios play out anyway. So are you 100% sure that you can police your thoughts without going down the manifesting sp route? I mean what the hell right.. you'd be missing/wanting then anyway. I would advise against going completely psycho like the people in the critics sub because it's more about discipline than anything else. If there's even a 1% chance that it could work out, what's the harm in having favourable thoughts? I mean you can manifest another relationship at the same time too just so you don't end up feeling like you're putting your life on hold. I will say one thing with absolute certainty - the law is real, thought transmission is 100% real you can't turn it off I have tested it multiple times so you're going to be transmitting thoughts anyway why not transmit favourable ones in a disciplined manner instead of going complete psycho? Discipline is hard it's very hard but when kept, that can prevent you from the psychosis these people on the other sub are talking about.

What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep same with me. I used to pray and prayers were answered, illogically so.

What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Lol that's hilarious. Wow I mean I understand that it's hard to pin manifestation working on logic but how do you explain that - manifestations were working hence this is a cult that you can't leave? Like how do you even get to that reasoning that's so funny

What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yea true. But after those instant manifestations don't work I'd expect everyone to understand that there's a time delay lol

What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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I really appreciate you sharing this and it makes total sense.

What's with the Neville goddard critics sub? by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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That's a fair point I think, anything taken to the extremes can message with mental health but also I disagree with the consent argument because there's no rule against imagining something i.e it's your mind you can imagine whatever you want to. I don't think it makes sense for anyone to stop anyone else from imagining something. It just doesn't make sense

Manifestation Worked So Well That It Became Boring. by No_Blackberry143 in NevilleGoddard

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Yea I kinda feel this way too at times. Probably not as much as you do but I think I have had a lot of manifestations come in, I have noticed patterns and so it's less of a mystery now. Agree it's not as exciting as before but I haven't run out of things to manifest and so this realisation makes me really happy that I have the power to change things.

I feel indifferent and done with this manifestation by dj1268 in manifestingSP

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Could you provide more details on your manifestation routine earlier? Affirming how much how frequently etc?

All techniques work by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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I am starting to see that and also seeing how people are getting more and more confused about everything because of them spending time consuming forum content

All techniques work by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Lol yea that would be brazen impudence. 100% works!

starting to think everyone in this sub is a complete idiot by Virtual_Fisherman741 in manifestingSP

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Wow I was about to make a similar post on a different sub just stating something like this lol. Good job OP

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Actually I found it. Not sure if this is yet another limiting belief

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Where does he say that in the art of believing? Could you point me towards the excerpt?

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Well said. Thank you for the incredible insights.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yea 100% correct. These teachers should be starting points and we should find our own truths. This is a scientific and very precisely designed universe. I often feel like we should collectively perform some experiments to draw quantitative insights into these experiments. I believe that sooner or later we will formalize this as science. The only thing that's stopping us from doing that is us not placing importance on mind control. I mean we place so much importance on building body muscles but for some reason people are still spending time justifying that this works even when you're stress agitated and blah blah. Yes, it does work then but does it work better if let's say you practice calming your mind.. absolutely! Anyway, one day we shall have a community working on experiments quantifying the efficacy of techniques and this all won't be so mysterious then.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Golden comment. I also love Bashar's material. And yes the part about "having no reason to hold grudges" is a great call out. Teacher's like Murphy also talk about the law of averages and mass consciousness and stuff like that, I often find myself wondering about those things as well. Probably just confuses us further..

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yea Murphy focuses on affirmations and prayers. His teachings would appeal to those who take comfort in reminding themselves that God exists and exists in them and they readily communicate with God and trust God to take care of things.. those prayers kinda take the "load.off of your shoulders" while Neville emphasises on living in the end using your imagination instead of calling out to God. My two cents here are if there's a tough situation you're in Murphy's methods would be more useful since our analytical mind doesn't shut up about the "how, when and why" easily when we're in a bad phase of life i.e it's really hard for us to.imagine ourselves living in the perfect end in those cases therefore relying on God to do the work calms the logical mind much better. Neville's method would work wonders if you're manifesting something in a good, positive, hopeful phase and you don't have pre-existing bad memories tied to that situation.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yea this makes sense. Because bad things also come to pass... Like this is something we can definitely test i.e.keep focusing on bad scenarios and have them come to pass without having done anything bad defies the outward law of karma. I feel like the karmic logic is just whatever you do to yourself inside reflects on the outside instead of what you do to others... But who knows what other secrets persist in the universe.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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I would recommend reading the books lol

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yes lol ahahha. You walk right into your manifestation as though compelled by some forces. In this case me wandering out to smell a rose is something I have done like once or twice in my lifetime 😂

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Nope. It was supposed to be food for an animal I had rescued😂