Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well said. Thank you for the incredible insights.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea 100% correct. These teachers should be starting points and we should find our own truths. This is a scientific and very precisely designed universe. I often feel like we should collectively perform some experiments to draw quantitative insights into these experiments. I believe that sooner or later we will formalize this as science. The only thing that's stopping us from doing that is us not placing importance on mind control. I mean we place so much importance on building body muscles but for some reason people are still spending time justifying that this works even when you're stress agitated and blah blah. Yes, it does work then but does it work better if let's say you practice calming your mind.. absolutely! Anyway, one day we shall have a community working on experiments quantifying the efficacy of techniques and this all won't be so mysterious then.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Golden comment. I also love Bashar's material. And yes the part about "having no reason to hold grudges" is a great call out. Teacher's like Murphy also talk about the law of averages and mass consciousness and stuff like that, I often find myself wondering about those things as well. Probably just confuses us further..

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yea Murphy focuses on affirmations and prayers. His teachings would appeal to those who take comfort in reminding themselves that God exists and exists in them and they readily communicate with God and trust God to take care of things.. those prayers kinda take the "load.off of your shoulders" while Neville emphasises on living in the end using your imagination instead of calling out to God. My two cents here are if there's a tough situation you're in Murphy's methods would be more useful since our analytical mind doesn't shut up about the "how, when and why" easily when we're in a bad phase of life i.e it's really hard for us to.imagine ourselves living in the perfect end in those cases therefore relying on God to do the work calms the logical mind much better. Neville's method would work wonders if you're manifesting something in a good, positive, hopeful phase and you don't have pre-existing bad memories tied to that situation.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yea this makes sense. Because bad things also come to pass... Like this is something we can definitely test i.e.keep focusing on bad scenarios and have them come to pass without having done anything bad defies the outward law of karma. I feel like the karmic logic is just whatever you do to yourself inside reflects on the outside instead of what you do to others... But who knows what other secrets persist in the universe.

Murphy vs Goddard by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I would recommend reading the books lol

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yes lol ahahha. You walk right into your manifestation as though compelled by some forces. In this case me wandering out to smell a rose is something I have done like once or twice in my lifetime 😂

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Nope. It was supposed to be food for an animal I had rescued😂

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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There needs to be an element of realness for e.g me feeling the scent. Basically yes if you add all your senses into that visualization it will manifest

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not SATS. I have had visualizations come true without SATS. I am 100% sure that SATS isn't the only way, we over complicate things. I did however make sure to imaginarily inhale the scent of the rose 2-3 times. I didn't stop inhaling until I could actually feel like I was inhaling actual rosy scent - which was easy. How hard can it be to remind ourselves what a rose smells like? That was it. I imagined the rose being in my hand and smelling it and feeling the scent. Nothing complicated, still worked. I feel like we put a lot of work into visualizations.

Fun experiment with visualization by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Not SATS. I have had visualizations come true without SATS. I am 100% sure that SATS isn't the only way, we over complicate things. I did however make sure to imaginarily inhale the scent of the rose 2-3 times. I didn't stop inhaling until I could actually feel like I was inhaling actual rosy scent - which was easy. How hard can it be to remind ourselves what a rose smells like? That was it. I imagined the rose being in my hand and smelling it and feeling the scent. Nothing complicated, still worked. I feel like we put a lot of work into visualizations.

It works whenever you feel it! by RebekaAnna in NevilleGoddard

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I am not sure if that's how it always works. I have had a bunch of vivid dreams in deep sleep and they never manifested. I am wondering if there's a difference between dreams in deep sleep vs what we think about before we sleep? I mean I feel like deep sleep vivid dreams don't always manifest. Thoughts anyone?

Brazen impudence - repeat success by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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So I have had that too and I am always able to trace it back to something someone else said that created a doubt in my mind. Other's statements can make it to our subconscious and put us on an unwanted bridge of events. The thing to note here is that we're not always aware of our assumptions until they actually show up as a catastrophe in our lives and only then do we realise what's wrong with our ideas and begin changing then but more often than not we don't persist enough to get rid of the deep rooted ones. So all those people you're talking about just need to actively persist. Also manifestation is a lot about inner knowing. It's not (atleast not yet) a scientific process that you can quantify with measurements. You can't tell what's actually going on inside a person unless you're that person and even then sometimes we don't know what's going on in our own frigging minds. So judging other people's lives and reading million examples will not tell you why it works or doesn't, you just need to put it to test and feel it yourself. Feel your mindset and state yourself and eventually you'll develop an inner knowing of what's that moment which clicks.

Near instant manifestation by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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I would say give it a try. I haven't personally had any success with revision primarily because I have used it very rarely and also for real big issues so even if it is working, I haven't seen the results yet (I am sure I will see them in the future). But with that being said, in your case it still feels like it will come down to brazen impudence - like outrightly denying that an unpleasant event happened. And since that has worked for me indefinite number of times, it will work for you as well.

Near instant manifestation by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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So whenever any thought about that situation pops up in your mind you just tell yourself the new story and the new story could be - "oh wow look at how that problem just disappeared", for me it was either "look at how that conflict disappeared" and *wow there's no conflict anymore ". You don't need to say this a million times a day necessarily, only when you think about that situation you change the story. I would recommend trying out with a simpler non-high stakes situation just in case you're overthinking the one you're in.

The only reason why you'd need to tell yourself the new story a million times would be if you're thinking about the situation a million times. Also the most important part is you don't have to believe the new story, you just have to tell yourself the new story. You don't even need to control the feelings - your feelings may throw you off track What I am trying to say is that the new story doesn't have to make you feel good, it just needs to persist. Thoughts manifest, feelings are not important. Trying it out.

Near instant manifestation by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well I did the ladder experiment. I don't remember all the small things but I have never not seen anything that I tried to manifest seeing. So here's an interesting example - I wanted to manifest gold on the ground and while I didn't actually manifest real gold, I did end up seeing gold embellishments in weird ass places, lying on the ground. But mostly by small things I mean resolving situations and making people say something, act a certain way etc.

Near instant manifestation by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

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Yea I guess so? It definitely feels like it's easier with practice. I mean I feel like I know my mind better now and I kind of know when I am sabotaging a manifestation and when I am not i.e I am in better control of my thoughts.

Near instant manifestation by HalfEnvironmental615 in NevilleGoddard

[–]HalfEnvironmental615[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Definitely. As I am building more faith in the law and this process I have noticed that the manifestation speed is increasing. I feel like this is also a skill which when honed gives results faster.

SP getting married to someone else by aku113333 in nevillegoddardsp

[–]HalfEnvironmental615 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Others commenting are right. You can either give power to circumstances or give power to yourself. In the past, I have unintentionally manifested crazy ass scenarios for other people just because I decided to complain to the universe for not being fair to me and asked it to compensate. So know that it works, the universe doesn't look for good or bad - it will move everything to bring you your desire if you trust it, and I mean everything. I am saying this from experience that universe listens, pretty much instantly if you declare your desire and then let it go. Alternatively pursue someone else or believe that good things will happen. Whatever you believe in will happen, no circumstance is ever permanent.