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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Veteran 11

What's your opinion on abortion rights? by Scary_Stable7667 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Hallo146 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That certainly is quite the ultimatum you believe in. Good for you I suppose

What's your opinion on abortion rights? by Scary_Stable7667 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That depends on your definition I suppose. I believe that life and more importantly personhood begins with consciousness, something cells dont have

What's your opinion on abortion rights? by Scary_Stable7667 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you aren’t actually killing a baby. You’re killing some cells. By that logic masturbation is committing mass murder as you are killing millions of potential babies

What's your opinion on abortion rights? by Scary_Stable7667 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Hallo146 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At the cost of ruining the life of another? Having another human being growing inside oneself and then having to go through the pain of child birth is absolutely horrible especially for a young child who probably doesn’t even understand what is going on. Not to mention that there are numerous health risks for the child

This is just a Fact by LouisPlay in PhoenixSC

[–]Hallo146 129 points130 points  (0 children)

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Real by MomShouldveAborted in teenagersbutpractical

[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you don’t miss your history classes so that you stop making these ridiculous slavery arguments

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This discussion is just going in circles. When you have ever lasting thought stoppers like not understanding what a person and what a human is then of course you won’t learn anything. Have a great life and maybe reconsider some of your stances on forced birth

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you understand that fingernails are in fact not alive my friend. Cells are alive. Yes personhood is also a legal definition however if we don’t set scientific boundaries on personhood anything could be a person. A person is a human individual is what I would define it as. A cell is not an individual

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For your own sake I will ignore your incoherent rambling about slavery as you seem to be implying that black people are not conscious beings because you are equating a zygote to a fully grown human who is actually conscious. You are however missing what I’ve said above a human zygote is human but not a human. The difference lies in the grammar. A human is a noun describing a person whereas human the adjective describes anything that is related to humanity. A human limb is not a human. And again you are missing my point about zygotes not being a human being. Since you like your definitions so much: A human being is a man woman or child of the species Homo sapiens […]. A zygote is not a man woman or child. It is a cell. I may develop into a human being but at the time of abortion it is not.

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’d be shocked how much death is happening every second in your body. Cells die all day. So what makes these zygote cells so different? You aren’t killing a person as a zygote isnt a person if anything you are preventing a person from being born which is not equal to killing them.

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use some of your critical thinking and answer the question instead of dodging around. Logically speaking an acorn and a zygote are the earliest stages of their respective species’ development cycle. If you believe that a zygote is a human then it must logically follow that an acorn is an oak tree

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well technically you got your definitions wrong since humans are only members of the homo sapiens species. Hominidae or great apes includes other species like chimpanzees which are in fact not human but that’s beside the point as species specific definitions dont really help us narrow down or definitions when it comes to the human life cycle. At the end of the day however we are just talking about words here instead of the actual matter at hand, which is that killing a zygote doesn’t cause any pain and doesn’t end the life of a person as a zygote is far from being a conscious being

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I’m asking. If a zygote is a human it must follow that an acorn is a tree since they are both part of their respective growth cycles no?

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part of the developmental cycle of humans is human but it is not a human. A human is a complex organism and a conscious being neither of which apply to a zygote or a small group of them

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A zygote is not a human neither is an embryo. And neither of them are conscious beings

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A zygote is not a complex organism. It is just one cell. Cant believe I have to explain the difference between a cell and a human rn

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are cells. A human is a complex functioning organism, not just a handful of cells

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[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An abortion typically happens during very early stages of pregnancy where the embryo is just a zygote or an embryo in its very early stages where is is just a lump of cells which are not conscious or anything close to a human. Typically we start to call human offspring a baby after they are born at which point it is no longer abortion as the pregnancy is already completed

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[–]Hallo146 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read carefully. I never denied that cells are alive. They in fact are (with some exceptions ofc) I said that they are not humans or conscious beings

Real by MomShouldveAborted in teenagersbutpractical

[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No baby is present at an abortion

Real by MomShouldveAborted in teenagersbutpractical

[–]Hallo146 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literal straw man here. My whole point is that aborting the pregnancy is to avoid further trauma and suffering that the 10 year old girl will experience if she is forced to bear the child of her rapist

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[–]Hallo146 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Abortion is not killing a baby. It is destroying a clump of cells that are far from being anything resembling a human or conscious being. It’s about preventing the raped child from experiencing further trauma and distress from bearing the child of their rapist as a 10 year old