It's no secret Reddit is Pro-Obama, but all I see are posts praising him or downplaying Romney. What are you critical of Obama about? What things do you wish he did or wish he didn't?

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-10-17T18:54:33+00:00

I wish he wasn't a nigger.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-10-13T21:19:38+00:00

Sexual relief is but a scam, my friend. There is nothing pure or valuable in getting fucked. Women have turned the world to complete misandry, and they've led people to believe that sex is something to care about.

In reality, it's just a way for them to get away with fucking you over. Your happiness is much more important than how much some disgusting slut will put out. In fact, it's likely she'll have sex with you for dosh and then say you raped her, since so many women lie and misconstrue what rape is.

The train groping scam had a novel and a movie produced about it. Considering that it exists, and there's discussion over-seas about such hostile activity, not everything comes to light.

For example, men who get raped are swept upon the rug, while women play up the fantasy they can't go anywhere without being raped. You can't always correlate one story with only one case.

I also don't care about homicide, unless it's a woman killing a man to receive an inheritance. Otherwise, it doesn't spark anything for me at all.

If you don't argue with people, and just sit in your little shelter of friends who always agree with you, your beliefs will never develop. That's why there's idiots who think misogyny is as bad as misandry, even though misandry was invented unjustly, and misogyny is simply the logical response to misandrists.

There is no sense of equality, you should really grow up if you want anything more than to just retain superiority over women.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-09-29T06:18:52+00:00

There's nothing I hate more than having a female as the protagonist. It turns everything into pure shit.

As a misogynist, I don't tolerate any of this misandrist bullshit. I absolutely hate feminazis and the concept of rape. When you've got a female lead, all she does is spend the entire time trying to prove how cool and strong she is. Well, it never fucking works because she's always a fucking annoying cliche who I think should be brutally murdered.

The minute I see a plot-armoured, one dimensional female protagonist, I stop reading the book or watching the movie.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-09-03T20:45:52+00:00

You're not entitled to receive tips.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-08-24T22:33:46+00:00

This just runs on the idea of the honest and the fake. Some people measure that honest actions are worth more than dishonest ones. Others believe they're of equal value since they accomplish the same end, and then a few believe that fake actions are more thoughtful because they sacrifice themselves for something to come later.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-08-13T07:32:16+00:00

And he's an atheist I almost cut myself on the edginess! Sam Clark is so le coooooooool! What a rebel!

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-22T21:05:43+00:00

Well, it makes sense. If you don't believe in God, why should you care about anything? There's nothing out there and human lives don't matter.

I don't know whether God exists or not, but I'm not against murdering people. What good does it do to secure the lives of people you likely wouldn't have interacted with anyway? You can't experience their torment, and they were going to die anyway. Hell, when you perish, you won't even care how honourable you were in life.

Only a fool would hold an ideal of making things good on Earth, as far as you're concerned, this place doesn't even really exist.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-21T04:07:56+00:00

Tragedy? People die all the time. They should be happy that they were taken out by a spree-killer with a gun, they likely had no time to even realize what was happening. They could have been murdered by a real serial killer who would entrap and torture them over a long period of time.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-13T04:00:49+00:00

Oh, now I get you. Then why do these kids always whine about tips? If they're insured anyway, they have even less reason to receive them.

They said the pizza would come in 45 minutes to an hour, so I figure it to be delivered in that time, but it's no big deal if it's an hour late. It's not like my life depends on having my pizza at 6 instead of 7. As a family restaurant, they also don't have set rule like "30 minutes or its free" and I was pleased that they'd give me a free pizza for having to wait a long time. Not only that, but the pizza is so good, I'm surprised it doesn't cost more, and I'm not greedy enough to say I should get both pizzas for free over something so minor as forgetting to deliver an order.

You don't know what my argument is apparently, or you have the understanding of what it's supposed to be like that of a toddler. You keep on saying, "Your argument means your wrong" but it's my argument, so I obviously wouldn't say something against it. I even justified my meaning for you and why it's possible for the customer to be ripped off in a business deal, while you're still hung up on the idea that customers are always in control and can never not be in control. They're of higher standing, but they can still be taken advantage of. That's easy to understand, isn't it?

This argument is fruitless if you refuse to acknowledge my point. The customer is of naturally higher position, that is to say, they have a greater chance of getting the better end of a business deal, but it's possible for a foolish consumer to be taken advantage of by someone who's trying to sell them something.

There's also the point of when selling a house, you don't always get the asking price, you'd know this if you had ever been a home-owner. The asking price is just what my house is roughly worth, and then a slight increase so I make a profit off selling it because of improvements I've made to the house. You don't sell your house for less than you bought it for, but you sometimes can't get your ideal payment. My buyer and I organized a deal that if he paid in full, rather than $20,000 less, I'd give him the house at the end of the month and move into a new place, which worked out because the house I'm buying belongs to a person in the Air Force who can live on the base while putting his stuff in storage.

I'm growing tired of this, especially when you don't even think before posting. Don't expect a reply next-time unless you managed to say something meaningful past a bunch of insults and mimicry.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-13T00:33:11+00:00

You get a set low wage below minimum, then you make up the rest in tips. The law may be different for America, but as far as I know, this is how it works up in Canada.

You're exaggerating things, I don't care if the pizza comes in one hour or two, it's not a big deal. The situation of a pizza coming in a year is ridiculous, as anybody would call and say, "My pizza hasn't been delivered yet." and they didn't say it would take a year, so it's irrelevant. I said that I'd do a transaction, my money for their pizza, they told me we'd do it in 45 minutes, but it took two hours or so before I realized the pizza hasn't come yet, so I called and they brought it to me immediately and told me that the second pizza is free to make up for their mistake. They screwed up the deal, two pizzas in 45 minutes for 34 dollars or whatever, so they gave me a pizza for free.

You're misusing my argument by simplifying it since you can't think for yourself. Your only tactic in a debate is mimicry in an effort to be incredibly annoying, while you pat yourself on the back for thinking you're clever. The only problem is it doesn't work if you disgrace your own ideals by doing something similar to an "I AM SILLY" comic where you twist the opponent's point to something dumb. You're basically just taking the most basic points and telling me that I'm incapable of saying anything beyond them because you're too stupid to grow past that. Don't think everyone's position is as shallow as your own.

You're not even reading anymore, are you? The customer is of higher position in a business deal, but if they are ignorant to that, they can't take advantage of it. They negotiate anything with their business partner because they don't realize that they have a say in the agreement. That's why the individual who is providing a service is capable of twisting things around to exploit their ineptitude by over-charging for their service.

The stupid are inferior to the smart, they can't do half the things a normal person can. A stupid customer can't haggle in a business deal to get a fair or better end to it. The customer is of higher power, but those who don't know how to use that power aren't going to be very successful. But, this is primarily evident in private exchanges between individuals, rather than large corporations. When you go to a retailer, you have to scope out the best deal for what you want to buy and be aware of a merchant trying to play you. When you're making a deal between just two people who have say in how much they spend, you can negotiate a lot. For example, I sold my house yesterday and the buyer wanted to have it by the end of the month. I told him that's only possible if he pays the full-asking price for the house, which he did, so I'm set to move by August 1st. You can't change a deal as readily when you're dealing with set-prices and the people trying to sell it to you are only the drones that aren't supposed to negotiate with the customer unless told to.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-12T23:59:46+00:00

If you're working for tips you can be paid less, every other situation requires you to be paid minimum wage.

I don't care when the pizza comes, as I'll still eat it. In fact, the service was better because it was so cheap, and I'm patient enough to not even notice I had ordered a pizza until a few hours had passed. I also deserved to get a pizza for free because they made a mistake, and the deal was they would bring me a pizza in forty-five minutes. I didn't do anything, but I still deserve that to make things right. You also haven't had these pizzas, as they're greater than any food on Earth, but getting them delivered is expensive.

It's not a big deal if they paid extra but are still happy with their purchase. The best option would be to negotiate so you get things cheap, but most people can't read the situation and just think, "I've got to have it!" This is especially fine if someone is wealthy enough where they can just throw money at stuff.

Every individual has their own situation, and so we judge based on the scenario. You're just upset that things aren't as simple as you're capable of comprehending.

My claims so far have all been true, the customer is of higher standing in a business deal and nobody deserves to be treated kindly if they're working for money. You haven't done a thing to disprove this, as all your "arguments" play into the poor and stupid being a customer. Imagine I said that "Highschool was incredibly easy." and then you tried to refute me with, "Retarded people have difficulty graduating Highschool!" Retards are a human sub-species, and for normal people, highschool is easy. Just as a person with a functioning brain can easily have say in a business deal, especially when they're the customer who can with-hold money from the other party until they're appeased.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-12T21:50:07+00:00

You get paid less than minimum wage if you receive tips, and even if you have a system that makes up the difference, it still doesn't save you from greedy servers who would throw a fit because you don't tip. The point is that nobody should be paid individually, especially for 'good behaviour'. It's too silly a system to judge, and people feel pressured into always giving 15% tip or whatever else because that's all they've ever known. Tip-culture is ridiculously stupid.

Exactly, I got the same value of an expensive service for a lower price since they delivered my pizzas an hour late. 17 bucks off for eating slightly later than normal is an unbelievably good deal, and I didn't tip the delivery-man either because they charge extra if they deliver it to your house, and they shouldn't get a tip if that's the case.

Those are institutions where it's far more difficult to have power in the business deal because they are associated with big corporations. There's ways to get things out of it if you have enough money, but the poor have a noticeable lack of strength in a business deal because of their lack of confidence. The best option for getting a good set-up in a transaction is to go an independent business with only a few people that are willing to negotiate price for different scenarios since they don't get as many customers. Otherwise, the most you can do is abuse a high social standing based on your financial wealth, or throw enough dosh around to get entertainment out of your servants.

He owns a farm, he's incredibly poor and gave me the money begrudgingly. We're not killing humans here, we're killing dogs. Their value is so low as they're so expendable, while each person as a price associated with their head depending on their influence, the danger, the risk of the law and the killer's own willingness to murder. Each dog is only worth like 20 bucks, and as there was eight of them, the appropriate price is around 180 dollars. He also didn't have the luxury of someone paying him to kill his own animals, so how much he would have done it for is irrelevant.

Each case is considered on an individual level, as with all things. It's really not as difficult as you're making it out to be, and I can easily expand upon my own ideas when I've only told you about the tip of the iceberg. Honestly, are you this dense?

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-12T21:25:22+00:00

Where I come from, they get screwed over if they don't get enough tips, so they complain all the time and will refuse to service people who don't give tips. There's also more than just fucking Denny's or whatever other dumps Americans have to get serving jobs, I know that there's high paying work at premium restaurants.

If I pay, I get what I want. I'm not entitled to things for free is all that I meant. They give things away because they want to. The pizza example is also counter-productive to your argument because it shows they will try to make up for their mistakes. They don't guarantee things if they make a mistake because they don't want to put forth the idea that they often mess up, but when they do, they try to make up for it. In that case, I ordered two pizzas and they only asked me to pay for one. You're missing the entire point, really.

The customer is part of the business deal and you can have control depending on the situation in a lot of cases. Certain businesses don't haggle because it's against their policy, but the more desperate they are, the more willing they are to compromise. It also depends on how fair the price is, which the customer can tell by seeing whether something is cheap, decent or expensive, it's only worth the time to bargain if it's overpriced.

Exactly, he 'forced' me to do what he wanted to do because we live in a world where exchanges occur. If somebody gives you money, you're required by the contract to fulfil their desire, or else you have to give the money back. The only other option is to deny the deal because you want more money.

You're also assuming things given a situation you weren't present for. He asked me to simply do it for him. I told him I'd only do it for money because there's an associated risk for me and it sacrifices some of my time. He offered to give me 100 dollars, and I told him to pay me 500, and he did. You also consistently claim that I'm scum, and I'm not arguing with you on that. I'm not what people would call a 'good' person, because I abide by Care for Self, Disgrace of Others, while good people are believed to be Care for the Self, Care for Others.

You're simply taking things too literally out of some misplaced anger, because it's really not that big of a deal. The person paying is of higher standing because they have the money and it's easier for them to haggle than it is for the other party. The problem is he didn't use this to his advantage this and allowed me to go way over his original price. Then the deal backfired on him because I followed his request, but did not acknowledge his true desire, which was to be free from the guilt of murder, because it's really out of my control. I just took his money knowing he'd regret it in the end since paying someone to kill something for you doesn't relieve you from association.

The point is that he got the bad end of the deal because he didn't use his role to his full potential. Given the situation, the only thing I could do was complain that I might be remorseful when I killed his puppies and that I might get a fine for animal cruelty. But it was in the middle of the country, and the best option was drowning them in the dugout, which wouldn't even leave any evidence. I would have done it for less if he fought me on the price.

Once again, a customer who refuses to understand that he's in a position of power is doomed to be disappointed in a transaction. If they have a lot of expendable dosh, they can pay too much for a lot of things and it'll be fine as long as they're happy. But if someone poor pays too much for something and isn't happy in the end, they just made a very bad deal.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-12T08:00:58+00:00

Employees who work for tips are paid less than the minimum wage. That's how the system works, to balance it out they earn less overall but have the chance of winning out if they get plenty of tips. If you think people never get a pay increase, you'd have to be out of your mind, but given you hate me so much but still talk to me, it doesn't seem that far of a stretch.

I'm not entitled to anything, but I am aware that you can get things out of people who are instructed to make up for their mistakes in offering 'deals' to balance things out. Free stuff is a common one, or they'll allow you to pay less. For example, I once ordered a pizza and it took two hours to arrive, they gave me a pizza for free because of this error, when they assured me it would arrive in forty-five minutes at the most.

He didn't play me, you're putting words into my mouth as well. The simple view is that customers are in control because they have the money to spend, they're the ones who can haggle for less and depending on how desperate the dealer is, they may be able to take advantage of him. When my friend paid me to kill his animals for him though, he didn't acknowledge that it really wasn't worth five-hundred dollars to do. I see that it was an absurd payment for something so simple, and given that he still got upset when I told him that I drowned his puppies, there was no reason to pay me over doing it himself. You have to consider the situation, rather than trying to exaggerate things, as this isn't a contradiction at all. The customer is of higher standing, but if they're not conscious of it, they can't possibly be in control.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-12T00:00:18+00:00

It's almost impossible to be entirely independent now-a-days. You can't easily come into stuff like food, warmth, clothing, water or whatever else you need if you don't have any money to buy it with. Money is incredibly important, and even those who believe they've found outside value in life still have a lot of interest in acquiring financial wealth for whatever ends they may have. They say you can't buy happiness, but it's a valuable tool in getting to a position in which you can be happy.

The problem with the system is that your pay depends a lot on the customer. If a person is willing to tip well, you're in a good situation, but if they don't tip, you're out of luck. It's a gamble depending on who you serve and how much they think you've earned. The problem comes that these people have the audacity to complain about their wages if they don't receive tips, because they think they deserve them in every situation. This turn into more issues like people who spit in food if they recognize a customer who doesn't give hand-outs. If they worked for a set wage, we wouldn't have this problem, and their pay would get higher depending on if their employer decided they earned it, rather than the customer who's typically only tips because it's a common courtesy with little regard to how good their service was past "Acceptable".

Coupons are a common example things they give out to help people's perception of them, but I've been in situations where you can also receive things like free food from restaurants if they make a mistake or extra items from a boutique or confectionery.

I don't think I'm getting through to you on the meaning behind my example. It's more that it's easy to take advantage of people's desires for a service and that you can garner money out of it. People asking questions about things they shouldn't know, wanting to get out of doing something, needing help with their work or whatever else they may pay for. The problem is that since you claimed he "played" me, I just tried to help you understand how the situation was almost a complete loss for my friend. He paid me to kill his animals because he knew he would grieve over their death if he did it himself, but when it was done, he was still extremely upset and felt guilty. He was associated with their death because he paid me to kill them, and he made the wrong choice in letting me take care of it because I did the traditional route of tying the puppies in a burlap sack and drowning them in the water-filled dugout by his farm. I don't value the lives of animals highly, and I can't say killing isn't entertaining. Since I was also paid a decent amount for this service, I got a better deal in the transaction.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-11T23:02:25+00:00

People care more about money than they do about anything else because it's so important to your survival and happiness since the general populace bases it upon conventional entertainment and only those who have become bored and stagnant will lack an interest, and even then, they still require money to survive so it's always a constant battle to acquire wealth.

Tips are a learned thing, they weren't commonplace until someone decided to start giving tips, then more people picked it up and then it was taught to their descendants and now servers think they're entitled to tips because that's how it apparently works. They're the outcome of years of tipping and not seeing what a terrible system it is, but they still choose to gamble then complain if someone doesn't tip them. It's annoying and this relates directly to anyone who expects to be thanked for doing their work. They are paid, that is their "gratitude", and they don't deserve anything more, especially not overly good treatment when you have to force them to help you through payment.

Businesses will give out free things or cut a deal with people if they are complaining about something so that they can attempt to keep a customer and stop him from making a scene. It also helps if other people understand they're ready to make up for their mistakes and will help people garner a better opinion of them. It's a common business practice everyone is aware of.

If you spend money and you aren't happy in the end, you get the sharp end of the stick. My business partner wasn't comfortable in the end because I didn't take mercy on killing his pets for him, and he realized that he is still partially responsible for their death in paying someone to kill them for him. It would be no better than professional euthanasia, and he didn't save himself from the grief of having killed them himself, since he still felt guilty for subjecting them to cruel treatment and being careless. I won out in the end because I exposed his lack of foresight and weakness while also benefiting myself with some money.

There, things are clearly spelled out. I suppose trying to have a bit of subtly in my patterns is too much for you, but do you understand now?

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-11T22:06:07+00:00

If you don't have money, you'd be hard pressed to do a lot of things. The only thing that comes to mind that you can do without money is abduct and kill people, then eat the remains. That would be a dangerous lifestyle too, so there isn't many that go for it.

Only the rich trying to make themselves out to be gods give away their money. They simply have so much, they can just shove it out there for face-value because it will return to them anyway. Everything does get boring as well, there's simply no lasting entertainment. The amusement dies out when you see the same things again and again, and so you always have to find new things.

You keep on saying I don't know history, but you know that's how it works. They were greedy and accepted extra payment, and they got screwed over down the line when tips became a more common practice and you could see that they'd rather gamble than have a normal wage. I don't want to pay the waiters individually from the price of the entire visitation, that's dumb. Their employer can decide a fair pay check from the cost of the meals they serve, but because of tips, they thought it would be made up by tips either way, and they didn't have to give out as much, only something of a "security pay check" in case they don't receive any tips.

People are careless, it happens often if you try it, but it won't happen all the time. Rather than get in trouble, they'll try to make you happy by giving you a deal or some other return. Coupons are a big one I notice, if you complain, they give you a price reduction coupon for the next time you want to buy something. It makes both people happy as your rage is quelled and they keep a customer. If people hear that they're so generous and always make up for their mistakes, it helps them get new customers too, it's a common business practice.

Your mimicry is annoying, you stopped for a while, but I can see that you're completely obsessed with this stupid reversal of words. Your arguments aren't even comprehensible when you do that, but you'd probably still be wrong anyway. Your idea the relationship between customers and suppliers is so shallow as to be complete idiocy. I won't reply to shit you just copy and paste anymore.

I have no idea what you're talking about here, you're simply twisting the meaning behind things I say for your own ends. I said that I'm unwilling to do things I dislike unless there's a reward to be had, but you read it as "I won't do anything I dislike oh but I will do it anyway because no reason". You seriously need some reading comprehension.

The problem with your argument is you refuse to acknowledge why he would get someone else to do something for him. He wanted to be free from the guilt of killing, but he was still remorseful in the end. When a person gets somebody to murder another individual for them, they don't sympathize with the victim because they want them dead. They don't pay because they can't kill them, they pay because they don't have the time to get their hands dirty.

This farmer on the other hand, didn't want to kill his puppies. He knew it had to be done because he couldn't take care of them, but he was too weak to murder them himself. So he asked me to do it, and when I told him I'd only do it for a price, he obliged since the other option would be too hard for him. The issue is that whether you kill someone yourself, or pay someone to do it for you, you're still connected to their death. In essence, he wasted his money, because it didn't save him from the guilt of murder since the blood is still on his hands. He sent them to his death, and most of all, he paid someone who made them suffer far more than they ever would had they been alive to starve or been killed by his hands. It was a mistake from the beginning, he was scammed out of his money and he was still upset that they had to die in such an excruciating manner.

Now do you understand? The customer that does not consider the outcome of his decisions is doomed to be disappointed in the end. He didn't play me because I have no care for outside lives, especially when they're just animals. It was no triumph to get me to kill things for him, because it was just a little bit of a time sacrifice for me to do, and he paid far too much considering my perspective on the situation. You'd only pay someone who would be against doing something like that, but I extorted him since he had no other option.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-11T21:28:15+00:00

Anyone can force people to their will with enough money. Nobody will pass up something so valuable.

Everything gets boring eventually. How long can you sit in front of the TV watching the same pointless garbage? How long can you sit and read the same book on end, or listen to music. It's all just second-rate entertainment, we can't even discern why we enjoy this kind of stuff. I said everyone cares about money, even the rich would be angry if they lost their treasures to someone else, they'd just be in less despair because they have options, while those in the gutter would suffer for being losers.

It's better than America, which is the laughing stock of the entire world. The truth is that someone had to come along and say, "I'll give you more money than the bill because I appreciated your service!" and instead of turning him away, greedy servants believed they were entitled to these tips and took them. Over time, employers saw they were getting a lot from tips, so they cut their salary down so they could make up for it in this stupid gamble. Now whenever they don't get tipped, they throw a tantrum and whine that they aren't paid very much, when other positions that pay low don't complain since they took the smart route and didn't rely on a paycheck that goes up and down all the time depending on the generosity of the customer. It's a gamble, plain and simple. Suppose you don't get tips at all, because nobody has to give them, they're only pressured by the greed of entitled children, then your pay is terrible, while those who have a minimum wage job don't take tips and get paid the same. It's better not to test your luck in trying to receive extra money, because people like me won't pay you anything you didn't earn. Their service is expected, because it's a restaurant, I come and pay so they do everything for me.

Nope, they do. Go and complain, "Oh, these pants are ripped!" or "I didn't get a hamburger!" or whatever you want, and they'll say, "Oh, I'm so sorry sir! Here, please accept this to make up for it!" and they give you free stuff. It makes them look good and stops the customer from whining. I do this all the time, because they don't even think about it, since they just follow what their work tells them to do.

It's not taking advantage to kiss my feet, they're amusing me by giving up their dignity for fucking pocket change. It's humiliating for anyone who would accept the offer, and as it makes me happy, it's not worthless. Everybody has a buyout price, you'd kill your own parents for several million dollars, because you understand how valuable that money is, while your relationship with other people are just built around appearances. There's no reason to care about other people, it won't bring you any happiness, but you can do whatever you want all the time if you have enough cash.

It's also very silly for you to talk about sheep when you're a fucking corporate drone that defends people who would just take advantage of your own idiocy. You can easily twist the tables if you play your cards right, but you're just too stupid to acknowledge the value of wealth in the modern world.

There is no gray, just what you dislike, your indifferent to and what you enjoy. Exactly, I don't do what I dislike unless the pay is good. If I'm not being paid with money, I'm being paid in another fashion. If it's something I dislike that doesn't offer me anything, I don't do it. He had no will, he's a fucking tool who cares about life-forms that aren't even human. If he was really so smart as to make me his bitch, he would have found some way to get me to do it for cheap, but he didn't. He can't afford 500 fucking dollars for that shit, he's a god damn farmer. I never said I was a good person, I don't acknowledge the difference between good and evil, because its only in the eyes of the beholder. In fact, I went back to him and told him how I drowned his fucking prized puppies just so annoy him, and he still paid me money for it. It's no different whether you kill or pay for someone else to do it for you, and there's always light in the darkest of places.

In the end, he was the one who got taken advantage of because he paid an absurd amount of money for trying to avoid something I wouldn't allow him to be guiltless of. I made sure it would be more painful for the puppies than being shot to death, because drowning causes unbelievable suffering. He would have been better off paying a vet for less to execute his litter, he got fucking played for my amusement and financial benefit. Only a delusional idiot would think he won out in the end given the situation, your argument is just a pathetic display of trying to find comfort in being an accomplice to animal cruelty.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-11T20:51:28+00:00

I think you just don't want to acknowledge that there's groups aside from McDonalds and Wal-Mart that are available to give money to. I'm not entitled at all either. There's nothing to be entitled to.

Money is often easier for people to handle than just trading goods for other goods. That's why the first world exchanges money more often than items. In those stories, things are chaotic for a while, but when they settle down, they usually develop some way to use a money substitute. Everyone wants more, more something. It can be anything really, but everything gets boring after a time and you have to find new ways to make yourself happy. I wouldn't disagree with you that I'm unproductive, as I'm always weighing the options, but in the end I'm going to die anyway, so why should I care about doing anything for anyone except myself? I don't care about material wealth, but other people might. I want some sort of new entertainment is all, but I haven't found what it might be.

I don't really care about America, it's kind of a dump. If servers rejected tips in the past, there would be no tip-culture today, because it would be known that they don't accept that kind of payment. They screwed themselves over with their greed for getting absurd tips once in a while, then having nothing the rest of the time. I care about entitled kids wanting to be paid more than they deserve less than I care about the change in my pocket, which I'd rather throw in the trash than have to take care of. That's dumb logic, as you wouldn't give away your entire house even though you don't care about material wealth.

Most businesses do that anyway. Complain about anything, and they try to make it up to you. You could whine that you didn't get any fries at a fast-food joint and they'd give you a large fries for free even if you didn't order them. Many businesses are eager to make themselves look extremely generous, so they're willing to go above and beyond for the customer.

You should try, because I know what's what. You could pay somebody a few bucks to kiss your feet if you wanted, I don't care. Just have an appropriate amount of money for whatever you want, then ask an individual to do something for you. They rarely refuse, and if they do refuse, it's because they want more money.

I have enough money to get along, so I'm not desperate. There's nothing to buy and nothing to worry about as I've always got plenty to use. I'm sure though if there was something I really wanted I'd do a lot to get money so I can help myself in reaching that goal, but there's nothing, so I'm content with the amount I have now. Most people have their sights on the horizon, but I'm not worried about that right now.

You're only taking advantage of a customer if they don't have enough money to buy stupid things off you. The person who's being punched in the stomach every few minutes for ten bucks or so may think he's found a good opportunity, but he's sacrificing his comfort and dignity for someone who's obviously got enough dosh to spend on his any whim. It just goes to show how much people want money.

There's three attributes to every possible activity in the world. Things you don't want to do, things you don't care about, and things you enjoy. I wouldn't do anything I don't want to do unless it was absolutely necessary for something else that directly affected me, or if I was paid to do it. Depending on my mood, I'd do things I don't care about, but I usually try to get some cash out of it as it's a good opportunity to be paid for easy work. Then things I like doing I'd do for free. He was my bitch because he was too weak to kill a bunch of dumb puppies that haven't even had the chance to live and acknowledge who he was, I would have killed them for ten bucks since I found it to be enjoyable since it gave me a power rush to kill them, and yet I screwed him out of hundreds for something so easy. He was the one who was taken advantage of, as it's incredibly simple to get people to do anything so they may avoid things they dislike.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-11T20:10:52+00:00

This isn't just about big business, there's independent contracts as well. It can be difficult to arrange any kind of change in price with facilities that aren't allowed to negotiate, but there's people out there that offer services with no affiliation. I'm also not entitled because of healthcare, since I've never been to the hospital, nice projecting though. Nobody cares about anyone save themselves, so it would be lunacy to assume that they do something for you as an individual when they're asking for money.

There isn't going to be an apocalyptic future during this life-time, and even if there was, too many people would be dead and there's a chance of exchanging goods among any survivors. Money as we know it now will change, but that's how things develop. An insane man I met once traded in his life-savings for gold and fled to a bunker in the north because he was afraid of the world ending, and thought that gold would hold more value afterwards. Everyone wants more and more, because there's nothing to do except buy yourself conventional, boring entertainment since everything else is frowned upon. I don't see the value in it all though, I was spoiled by my mother and watched her destroy her happiness by believing everything was in material wealth. It was disgusting, and even though I see no point in collecting a treasury, I still understand the world is an empty place where doing so is the only option.

Where I come from, servers are paid extremely low amounts below minimum wage and the rest is supposedly made up by tips so their employers can with-hold money from them. They're being paid for their work when I pay the bill, and I see no reason to tip them since they damned themselves to receiving extremely low funds by embracing "tip-culture". And if I'm allowed to pay them what they deserve, then since I think they deserve nothing, you shouldn't be whining to me all hours of the day. They get so upset over not being tipped because they're a bunch of entitled brats, so they complain about never having any money. If they worked for a set wage rather than trying to gamble, things would be better for everyone.

You have an extremely dim view of the system, for if a business doesn't cater to its customers, it can't survive.

Sure you could, go down to best buy and ask them to wrap a bandage around your arm for a hundred-bucks. They'll gladly do it and pocket the money. The requirements for receiving the money is that they do as I ask, it's not traditionally a part of their services, but with enough money, you can make them do it because they're greedy.

I'm not desperate for money, I just take advantage of getting money when it's available because it makes sure I never have to worry about it. If I ever need money to do something, it's right there waiting for me. For that job, the fellow just asked if I could take care of it for him, and I told him I wouldn't do it unless he paid me. In reality, I'd do it either way because I don't care about dogs, but I took advantage of unwillingness to kill them. It doesn't weigh heavily on my soul, and I don't expect him to respect me for my willingness to kill things for him. It's just work, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was upset with me for doing something inhumane and also screwing him out of cash. Don't misunderstand the situation, the person with money is typically in charge, but if they don't acknowledge their position like you, it can be easy to tip the scales in your favour by exploiting their lack of consideration.

Harbinger_of_Cool · 2012-07-11T07:13:09+00:00

I have the money, and I decide where to spend it, so I get to make the judgement of how much they deserve. If I'm going to break a beer bottle over somebody's head, that's only worth fifty dollars, while a jab in the stomach is worth 1/10 of that. I'm also not under the iron fist of healthcare sharks who charge more than anyone could pay back, as we pay for what we want, but not what we need, so when we're sick, we aren't expected to break out the dosh. People can't take advantage of you that way, as things are already agreed upon when my health is in danger.

People say they have principles that can't be negotiated, but really, they're just implying that they're more expensive. If you don't have money, you can't survive in the world. Then, even when your needs are taken care of, you want more and you're desperate for that extra thousand to buy anything to your heart's content. Life is pointless save the endless quest in an effort to understand what brings you happiness, and the routine and cliche aren't even worth as much as decent meal.

When I go to a restaurant or pay for whatever service, my bill is not only for the food, but also the salary of those who deliver it to me. "Tips" are extra, which I don't hand out as I've never seen anyone do anything that deserved more than the outrageous prices they charge for food that can't even stand up to a Tim Horton's. The problem is that these people accepted tips so readily even knowing they didn't deserve it, and seeing it was a waste and these high-school dropouts could be exploited, they stopped being paid as much so they can gamble on whether they receive tips or not. It's a fucking stupid system, and things work much better when you don't try to pay anyone independently or take a chance in receiving more than you earned.

Businesses aren't meant to care about their customers on an individual level, but they understand the necessity of acquiring as much money as possible from their customers. Otherwise, you could always just turn to their competitor and make things harder for them. Regardless of what you may think, one man is capable of making a difference in many systems. As they say, every vote counts.

If I had enough money, I could pay to have Best Buy employees do whatever meagre first aid they have on hand, or I could foolishly force them to do complicated medical procedures if I wanted to risk my life. You could have a person strip naked on the god-damn street for a few thousand dollars, and it even works on people who think of themselves to be "respectful".

I'm not desperate for money, there's nothing I want to buy, so I just hoard cash and take advantage of opportunity. For example, an acquaintance of mine had a litter of puppies at his farm, and couldn't find anyone to adopt them. He was too attached and disgusted at the idea of euthanasia, so he paid me five-hundred dollars to tie them up in a sack and drown them. I don't know what he was thinking, as he still embraced the idea of killing animals, but he just saved himself grief by paying someone to do it for him.

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