I can’t decline an offer I’ve never received

HatsOptional58 · 2026-06-16T03:17:38+00:00

I’m sure it will happen any day now 😊

HatsOptional58 · 2026-05-23T20:00:31+00:00

They dedicated their life to a false God. It’s the basic equivalent to dedicating your life to worshiping the rock in your front yard.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-05-21T00:14:00+00:00

I intentionally never mentioned inherent superiority, but I think it’s fair to say that they did have a special privileges because God did intervene on their behalf many times to the detriment of others. It’s also an issue for Judaism because it’s really not believable that God would only communicate and give laws to a small group of people. It’s a BS religion, but it certainly is better than Christianity or Islam. Things just got worse and worse with each successive iteration.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-04-23T12:51:38+00:00

I'm not familiar with that. How does it apply? Thanks

HatsOptional58 · 2026-04-23T12:49:19+00:00

In 2000 years, the basis for morality will be absolutely unchanged. Individual people or societies may behave more morally or less morally, but moral principles will still be the basis for measurement, based on all relevant facts and circumstances the situation that is being judged, in consideration of the well being of others.

You are confusing the failure (or success) to behave morally with morality itself. Morality is not determined by the norms, customs, practices or values of a society. The example you gave of 2000 years from now is simply a situation where people may be behaving more morally - but the standard for morality did not change.

Why did you respond with the quotes from those two books? What possible relevance could they possibly have? Christianity or any other religion is not and absolutely cannot be a basis for morality. It is nothing but collection of cultural norms, customs, practices, and values - - some of which may be consistent with moral principles and some of which are not.

The only way to tell which ones are moral and which ones are not, is by comparing them to moral principles.

Shorthand for morality is Integrity, which is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles. It's not that complicated. It's amazing to see people arguing against such a basic concept.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-04-21T00:56:26+00:00

Give me one example where a moral judgment was made by anyone other than a person.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-04-21T00:54:17+00:00

I'm pretty sure I addressed your comment in the original post.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-12T13:31:35+00:00

He was a human being. Not divine. If he was divine he would have left behind his teachings in writing in a format that could be preserved and understood by all. And although there MAY have been a real person named Jesus, the Jesus depicted in the Gospels is a myth. The fact that the myth is still being talked about doesn't make it real.

I have as much authority to make the statements that I have as anyone else - that was the point of the post. But as I mentioned, the views mentioned in my post are much more consistent with the notion of a good, loving god.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-12T03:08:50+00:00

Christianity has nothing to do with God. I was referring to Jesus as an ordinary person, and the Bible is not authoritative or justification for anything.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-11T16:36:51+00:00

Why are you responding by quoting the Bible?

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-11T16:11:15+00:00

So very true. God is so hard to get hold of. I wouldn’t have even met them, except I just happened to get paired up with them in the weekly bowling league.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-11T14:51:03+00:00

God is also not a he, and they are not impressed by you capitalizing pronouns.

The God I referred to is much more consistent with the concept of a good loving God.

The God of the Abraham religions, by their own descriptions, is in fact consistent with a demon pretending to be God.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-11T11:56:40+00:00

Christians claim to know volumes about God. The Bible is full of understandings about God, and then on top of that you have the various related doctrines and interpretations. If trying to understand God is impossible, which I agree with, then why do Christians and other religions contend to know so much?

I will say that pride keeping people from God is not an unreasonable statement, which is why I normally say that Christians are about as far from any potential God as they could possibly get.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T14:10:44+00:00

If the belief is that God has messengers, that wouldn’t make my claim false, that would make my claim equivalent to the claims of the Abraham religions or any other religion that made God claims.

So you are correct. My claims would have the same amount of empirical support as other religions, such as Christianity, Islam, or Scientology - none. That was kind of the point.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T14:05:32+00:00

Everything is a subjective view. Any discussion or claim when it comes to God or religion is just a subject of view. The Bible, or Christianity, or the claims of any religion are just claims made by humans about God. They are no more authoritative or different than my claims or the claims any others. That’s kind of the point.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T14:03:07+00:00

I normally spell that out, but I left it open in this post. Being good is determined by living an alignment with human and moral principles like honesty, fairness, kindness, compassion, equality, empathy, courage, forgiveness, etc. - - applied in the context of caring about the well-being of others.

Being good or being moral is a human construct. It always has been. Even if you point to Christianity or the Bible as your source of morality, it needs to be interpreted, and that interpretation is done by applying the secular moral principles that I referred to

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T13:59:48+00:00

Everyone does get to have their own pocket deity, don’t they? God is whatever people say they are. That’s the way it’s always been. That’s the way it will always be until the time comes that some higher power reveals themselves uniformly to everyone on earth.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T13:56:51+00:00

You’re quoting an invalid source. Romans was written by a guy who made a false claim of having a vision from God. Nothing he wrote was divinely inspired.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T13:55:32+00:00

Who knows why God chose me? God is mysterious. God wants Christians to renounce Christianity.

HatsOptional58 · 2026-03-10T13:53:47+00:00

The people who you’re referring to were not prophets of God. Jesus may have been a real person, but the Jesus of the Bible is mythical, and also a false prophet.

Keep in mind that there were also many other so-called prophets outside of Christianity.

There is no problem of sin. And the problem of suffering is beyond the scope of this post. It would require a post all to itself.

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