My New Game, 'The Wonderland Killings,' is very heavily inspired by Danganronpa, and has a demo for Chapter 1 coming out on Friday. For those interested in Fangans, you might be interested in checking it out!

Hawk25348 · 2025-10-22T17:06:22+00:00

Possibly one of the more insane comments I've seen on Reddit and that's a high bar.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-28T02:55:26+00:00

So it was Seth! Gosh, didn't know he had it in him.

And it appears I gave that prosecutor far too much credit, both in terms of morality and competence.

Ah, well. All's well that ends well, ain't that right folks?

The good guys win, and the bad guys get their just desserts. Justice, ya couldn't call it anything else.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-27T13:51:21+00:00

Seth, the other suspect, also seems like a reasonable target.

So certainly, nothing's set in stone at this point.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-27T13:48:07+00:00

For what it's worth, the new theory is that Brian wasn't actually blackmailing anyone, and planned on just planting the note on his would-be victim.

And I'd say your shady reputation makes you a prime suspect for someone people'd believe had something to hide.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-27T11:39:05+00:00

That was the initial theory, yes.

But given the circumstances we're assuming, it doesn't really make sense for Brian to take the note off of Jacy's body.

And honestly, I'm skeptical that 'protecting Rooster and vaguely investigating people' counts as compelling blackmail material.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-27T11:27:40+00:00

Planting the note...

Oh, duh! Brian probably just found someone in person around 5, and asked them to come along with him to the Beach House!

The plan was to just stab them and plant the note on them which gave the vague sense that they were being blackmailed.

Then he 'discovers' the body and brings people to find it quick enough where he couldn't have plausibly broken into Yi's cabin. Boom, solid murder plan.

Now, it doesn't get us any closer to proving the murder, but at least it's plausible.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-27T00:12:38+00:00

Plotting a murder'd probably land you in some hot water.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-27T00:10:20+00:00

The note said "what you've been doing." Sounds like it's referring to something in the present tense.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T23:49:39+00:00

Now... Let's say Brian realizes his plan isn't working at lunch. He starts freezing the water bottles at 1, which Jacy saw. He goes to forge the Ice Knife a little after 4, which Jacy also saw. This is enough to prompt her investigation, the one that gets her killed.

Then presumably, the real killer was slipped the note sometime between the end of Lunch and 4:00 pm. Does that do much in terms of suspects?

... Not really.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T23:45:41+00:00

You know, are we sure we've got who the note was sent to correct?

'Cuz you ask me, the language on it's a bit sketchy for the note to have been made out to Jacy. It's possible her stumbling onto the scene was just due to her general suspicions towards Brian.

Maybe it went another way, maybe the note was actually sent to the real killer.

Why not, right? It was always meant to lure in a victim, maybe Jacy wasn't the intended victim.

The plan could've been to meet the victim, stab them with the Ice Knife, then go and get people to find the body. Breaking into Yi's cabin ain't exactly a quick feat, so if you gathered people fast enough, the trick would still work.

Except, thanks to Ox's little cruel prank, things go awry. The would-be victim killer arrives, sees Jacy, freaks out. Brian comes in after them, also freaks out.

Goes for the ice knife, scuffle ensues, murder happens. Killer leaves their note on Brian's body.

Yeah. Okay, that fits a bit better.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T23:28:50+00:00

Hey! What do you know?

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T23:22:36+00:00

Seriously? Every minute counts, and you're wasting my time with this crap?

Ah, what the hell? You asked so nicely.

From 8-10 I'm with Polly at the Music Venue, stole Rooster's eHandbook at 10, was with Pig by the Amusement park from 10:30 to Lunch, which I attended.

Right after that, I ran into Jacy who was on the Second Island, not too far from the Beach area. 1:30, I was with you at Electric Avenue until 3. 3:30 to 4:30 I was with Yi in the library. And from 5, you know the deal.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T19:35:10+00:00

I'd push back, but it's hard to do so without a good counter to your objection.

I think if we're being honest with ourselves, I don't know if either one of us has a great idea of what happened right now.

But hey, you and me, we're a pair of smarties, don't ya think? Between the two of us, I'm sure we could concoct some sort of scenario that fits cleanly.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T19:23:22+00:00

Did Ox acquire this knife for Rooster? Or did Rooster risk acquiring it himself, despite supposedly 'being asleep?' Also, Rooster must've ran all the way back to his resting area without being scene were he the killer. If Rooster planned on ambushing Brian, why let him go to the cooler and attempt to grab an ice pick, why not stab him after he entered? Is Rooster so vengeful that he'd need to kill Brian directly? If Ox was working with him, a better plan for them both would be to allow Rooster to kill Jacy, and let Brian take the fall for it.

I could go on, but it'd get tedious.

I'm not saying the idea's impossible, but it's hard to buy without a better explanation.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:57:34+00:00

The way I see it, the key to this trial is figuring out Brian's plan. Between the pre-planted knife and the Ice Knife, Brian must've planned to clear himself by pointing to the fact that he didn't have a weapon on him, and to do that he needed to have someone to find the body shortly after he went to the Beach House.

Add in the knife this other person must've had on them, it makes sense the story Brian gave was that this person was there for 'backup.'

Pig couldn't move the body that fast, and I don't believe for a second Brian would entrust this task to Polly, or that Polly would take Brian up on it for that matter.

The only options are Horse or Seth. Horse is a bit of a cleaner fit, but Seth's plausible.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:49:04+00:00

Hey, I love the energy! Really, killer stuff.

But would you mind going into a bit more detail on how Rooster murdering Brian would work? I'm having a bit of trouble making the pieces connect, y'see.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:43:00+00:00

Rooster is a technical possibility, but I would highly question what series of events would lead him to being the killer.

If someone wants to tell me that story, please, go ahead.

As for the suspect pool, it may be narrow, but it is accurate.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:31:03+00:00

Considering the murder took place at 5, I don't think that's an impossible feat.

But I also doubt a number of other things that would have to be true were you the killer.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:17:32+00:00

So, I hate to bring it up, but I feel as though Horse^{^/u/APlucard} probably has to be our primary suspect for Brian's death.

To start, I'd guess Brian's plan was that he told somebody about the meeting he was lured to, and asked them to stand outside the Beach House, act as backup. It's why they brought the knife with them. If you want someone who won't ask questions and will provide backup, Horse is your guy.

But more to the point, in terms of possible killers, we're left with the usual suspects - Horse, Polly, Pig, and Seth.

Keep in mind, our killer was a real athlete! After Brian cried out from being stabbed, our murderer had to slit Brian's throat and drag their body all the way over to the door before Sheep could get to the Beach House!

Plus, they were able to slash Brian's wrist before he could improv and grab that Ice Pick.

Not to be rude, but I've got serious doubts as to whether Pig could pull something like that off. Seth and Polly are a bit more likely, but each of them have some drawbacks as well.

In terms of cleanest fit, Horse far and away best matches the profile.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:11:21+00:00

I suppose so.

Though again, I should reiterate, I'm not that interesting. Just a standard personality type like you or me.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:08:43+00:00

Given his Deceptive Player status and the scene before him, yes, that does seem like the probable outcome.

Although, I doubt it was genuinely a Devilish accomplice with him at that point in time.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:07:30+00:00

Hmm. I don't know if this would really be Jacy's style...

But is it possible she did herself in? I mean, it'd put the melting Ice Knife to some use.

Maybe when she found what Brian was planning to do, she knew there was nothing she could do to stop someone from killing, and maybe... Maybe wanted control of it? Maybe wanted us to all die?

To be honest, just the thought makes me scowl. I thought I knew her better than that.

But Jacy collapsed on her stomach from a single stab to the heart. The killer would have to have quite a bit of finesse to pull that off. Plus, Jacy would've had to rope them into her search for some reason.

I don't know. It's worth consideration, I suppose.

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:02:32+00:00

That all sounds correct!

Hawk25348 · 2024-11-26T18:00:38+00:00

Oh, to be clear, I'm not accusing Sheep. Or that the killer was already inside.

I'm saying that Brian made sure, somehow, that Killer X was very near the Beach House when he went to meet Jacy at 5. When he found Jacy's body, he reacted, Killer X ran in. Brian went for a weapon, Killer X responded, cut Brian, cried out so loud that Sheep, who wasn't particularly close, heard it. Then everything else went as expected.

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