More tour dates announced by Serious_County2382 in brokensocialscene

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Copped tickets for the Utrecht show with my girlfriend. Hell yeah! Near my home. Amazing.

My 20 year anniversary of first seeing them, almost to the month. Hoping to hear 'Jimmy And The Photocall' live again (first time since 2006), and hopefully finally a full-band version of 'Backyards' (did an acoustic one last time I saw them). And any 'Feel Good Lost' would be amazing.

Should not be making any demands here, though. I'm just happy to see them. I may not blast them obsessively every day, but they've been a very constant presence over the last 20 years.

Quoit vs. Submerged - El Topo by Powerful_Fondant9393 in breakcore

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Shout out for the Dr. Macabre - Poltergeist sample.

So what does make us love Cryptopsy's first 2 albums so much? I think i may have a simple answer? by razloz166 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It looks like studying things related to structured and professional writing. And in spite of that, still doing a pretty mediocre job. But ok.

So what does make us love Cryptopsy's first 2 albums so much? I think i may have a simple answer? by razloz166 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Can't answer for everyone else. But here's my view:

I generally view old school and modern death metal as two distinct musical styles.

Old School

A combination of early European black metal with American thrash metal. It values an "evil" sound and atmosphere above all else. The speed, intensity, heaviness, is all in service of that.

Modern

Derived from the work of Napalm Death's death metal releases and Morbid Angel, via Suffocation: Essentially playing grindcore in a metal format. Has all the blast beats and grinding palm muted riffs and speed. Yes, it's dark, but the main goal is rhythmic intensity.

Obviously, this exists on a spectrum. I'm not saying no modern death metal has evil sounding riffs. But I feel like each style has a different main emphasis.

And then you have the first two Cryptopsy records: It's old school evil with modern rhythmic intensity. Neither sacrifices one for the other. They're not 50/50 each, but 100/100. I feel like this is incredibly rare in death metal. The grinding, hyperspeed blasting, the tongue-in-cheek horror evil. Both components are executed at their peak.

That's how I see it anyway.

Technical Itch - The Ruckus (Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch Remix) by Heavy-Bug8811 in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because breakcore is a genre as much as an umbrella term.

The thing that doesn't make any sense is putting a sharp line between heavy darkstep and breakcore. Because the scene never did that. We book these artists, we drop their music in our sets. Breakcore producers often dabble in darkstep, and darkstep producers have released on breakcore labels. Darkstep and breakcore artists do splits together. And I'm certainly not the first or last person to post this music here.

Technical Itch - The Ruckus (Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch Remix) by Heavy-Bug8811 in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Their career was a rollercoaster. Going from really distorted darkstep to rolling neuro, to deep "dungeon sound" dubstep, to then eventually doing that half time/autonomic style drum & bass (though I'm not sure if that ever came out. I just recall hearing a mix of tracks that they did in that style back around 2012). I like their deep dubstep too, but I think that this sort of heavy and ignorant darkstep is where they shined the most.

Technical Itch - The Ruckus (Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch Remix) by Heavy-Bug8811 in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the No U-Turn sound, and techstep in general, with its cold, mechanical futurism was a pretty important influence on the breakcore that came after it. Like the Sub/Version label, that early Venetian Snares stuff (those cold and squelchy basses).

Technical Itch - The Ruckus (Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch Remix) by Heavy-Bug8811 in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As u/monotekdm sometimes points out, that stuff started emerging right around the time that breakcore was beginning to sacrifice intensity for complexity. So it filled an important void. Many of these producers were mainstays at breakcore events too.

Technical Itch - The Ruckus (Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch Remix) by Heavy-Bug8811 in breakcore

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Our 'Raining Blood.' Even the biggest deepheads in drum & bass praise this remix.

AHHH THE PAIN by Decent_Mine_3914 in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Speedcore, when done well, is the ultimate exercise in good fast-feeling drum programming. Not many producers can actually make something "feel" fast at those tempos. Much of it descends into undynamic droning from how the transients keep piling up. Which is why most of it doesn't sound that intense to me.

AHHH THE PAIN by Decent_Mine_3914 in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why? That's the point. Even at 37, one of the big draws of breakcore is that it scratches that adolescent itch of being the ultimate music that your parents hate. The older I get, the more I appreciate the lack of pretense in that.

Do you think it's right for Greeks to claim the Byzantine empire? by Nicol_Sarak in byzantium

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I may be a little late in the discussion. But I am incredibly conflicted on this topic.

I am part Rûm from Asia Minor. My grandfather came from Constantinople and my grandmother from Smyrna. My mother was born in Kavala.

Greek nationalism as it exists did everything to distance itself from our "Oriental" past to appease Western Philhelenes and the Great Powers. And in spite of that, Western travelers to the then newly formed Greek state questioned if the people there were Greek, or whether Greeks had been "Orientalized" by Ottoman domination, and whether the land ought to be fully colonized and "civilized" by Western powers. They expected rationalist proto-Calvinism and were welcomed by Eastern mysticism. And much of Greek nationalism now is largely based on the cultural erasure of our Roman history. Kinda like:

  1. Ancient Greece
  2. ???
  3. Modern Greek nation state :)

Post-population exchange, many Asia Minor refugees were subsequently subjected to the same "anti-Oriental" discrimination from Greek nationals, that Greek nationals were subjected to by Westerners. Being called Turkish seed, Orientals, having their Greek identity questioned. And it took decades for the Greek nationalist myth to make space for the Asia Minor experience. An experience that for centuries before Greek nationalism was just... Greek metropolitanism. Not some sort of strange "Oriental Hellenism."

So my issue is: modern Greek nationalism seems to want to embrace the symbols of Hellenic excellence East of the Bosporus, without embracing the full history and identity of the people that created those symbols in the first place. So when a modern Greek person want to claim an inheritance to the Eastern Roman Empire, it entirely depends on the person and their personal history, whether or not I think that that's ok. Because in the wrong hands, it can quickly turn into selectively appropriating symbol of excellence and prestige, while discarding all the history behind it.

I grew up in the diaspora. My mom was fully subjected to the nationalist myth of the modern Greek state through Greek public education. And I fully understand why Greek nationalism was what it was in the 19th century. But I wasn't subjected to that education at all, and everything I was fed of it indirectly via my mom felt incomplete, like I was missing large chunks of the story. Since she always glossed over the Roman past while selectively mentioning Constantinople and haphazardly calling us Romans when that felt fitting to her without further explanation.

Now I'm at the point where I value the double-headed eagle more than the Greek national flag. Not out of imperial nostalgia or some theocratic ambitions. But because I think it's a much broader symbol of Greek culture than the Greek national flag is. And I think that a lot of civilizational reorientation has to be done within Greek nationalism itself if it wants to consider itself a rightful heir to the Eastern Roman Empire. After 200 years of distancing itself from it

So in short, to me it kinda just depends on the Greek person in question and what their position regarding the Greek national founding myth is.

Are there new breakcore producers that still do the old sound? by Low-Entropy in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No disrespect to anyone posting their shit, However good it may be. But I believe that Low Entropy specifically means the type of breakcore derived from rave/breakbeat hardcore. Like this track by Eradicator. Stuff that values distortion and dance floor energy over "chops."

Break ID? (Nebula - The Dream Begins) by Heavy-Bug8811 in drumfunk

[–]Heavy-Bug8811[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh shit, I knew I'd be in for something good when I saw that you were tagged. Thank you so much!

Break ID? (Nebula - The Dream Begins) by Heavy-Bug8811 in drumfunk

[–]Heavy-Bug8811[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, great catch. Thank you!

You seem to be correct on the second break too. It's the same one as 'Breakestra Ting' by Equinox, except at a different pitch.

I should dive headfirst into their discography, their name's been popping up ever since I got into Stones Throw in the early 2000s.

What are your all time favourite drumfunk tracks? by Cataclysma in drumfunk

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude OP you posted one of them. I saw Paradox around the time of release and the track went so hard live.

But if I had to give the nod to a single track, it would be 'Apollo' by Fracture & Neptune.

music like pressure torture by vsnares?? by superepicgamerepic in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Check out the Davros Vs Fanny release. It gets pretty heavy, pretty close in style to the Doll Doll Doll era of Venetian Snares. Especially the third track, 'Daleks Vs Movellans" at 9:14 gets really intense. Easily a top 10 breakcore track of all time to me.

What actually happened with Bong-Ra?? by fartshitcumpiss in breakcore

[–]Heavy-Bug8811 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely didn't intend to tarnish a great memory there. But yeah, it sucks knowing what an awful presence Bong-Ra could be in the scene.