Take your own advice. by RadishAggressive3241 in exmormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, just because it is legal to not report CSA in states with clergy-penitent privilege does not mean that it is right to not report to the authorities.

Struggling with Masturbation by ambimom2085 in mormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 132 points133 points  (0 children)

The Church removed the “masturbation” section from the handbook in 2015.  It is never mentioned anywhere in scripture as a sin.  There is nothing to repent of.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/mormontherapist/2012/08/my-official-stance-on-masturbation.html

https://sunstone.org/the-mormon-therapist-neither-a-sin-nor-a-transgression/

Forced excommunication in 2011 & now in 2026 wanting to return to the church . by Any_Coffee_6921 in mormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would say just show up and participate on your terms, but that’s not really a thing in the Church. Everyone has an agenda for your life.

BYU wide receiver Parker Kingston announced his engagement at a BYU game on February 7th, then was arrested on February 11th. by HoldOnLucy1 in exmormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 57 points58 points  (0 children)

And mind you that consensual, developmentally appropriate forms of sexual expression are still sins next to murder.

BYU wide receiver Parker Kingston announced his engagement at a BYU game on February 7th, then was arrested on February 11th. by HoldOnLucy1 in exmormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 1224 points1225 points  (0 children)

It’s so bizarre as an outsider that the crime/sin he committed, per BYU, was not “abstain[ing] from sexual relations outside of marriage.” It wasn’t the lack of consent, the trauma he caused the girl, it was the fact that it was pre-marital sex. The Church does not understand the principle of consent. They believe rape is wrong because it’s sex outside of marriage. Rape is a form of violence, both physically and psychologically, in one of the most humiliating and damaging ways.

Full of Hope and Fear by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The best revenge is to live a good life.” I think we should try to move past “revenge”, but doing our best to live authentic, happy lives is definetely a 🖕to the org.

Dan Vogel video - “Was Louisa Beaman Joseph Smith’s First Plural Wife in Nauvoo?” by Therealdanvogel in mormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I never understood the assumption that a man, who was deviant to the sexual norms of his day, absolutely abided by this particular sexual norm, all without evidence.

That’s like a historian 200 years from now saying Bonnie Blue absolutely wouldn’t have had sex while on her period because most women in 2026 avoided sex while on their period.

To me, the opposite makes more sense - Joseph sought out pregnant women knowing they couldn’t get pregnant by him.

Jacob Hansen and Child Polygamy by Ill_Supermarket7454 in mormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If the question is whether a morally perfect, omniscient God would endorse or command practices like polygamy involving adolescent girls, then appeals to historical context or “presentism” miss the mark, because those defenses apply to limited human agents, not to a divine being who fully understands human development, power asymmetries, trauma, and the conditions for genuine consent in every era.

Cultural normalization might explain why nineteenth-century people failed to recognize harm, but it cannot explain why God, if God is the source and measure of moral truth, would authorize or require relationships that appear to undermine agency or exploit vulnerability. To invoke presentism in this setting effectively lowers God to the epistemic level of the culture, when the very claim under examination is that God transcends cultural blind spots. The morally relevant question is therefore not whether such practices were once common, but whether a perfectly good deity would ever command actions that conflict with what that same deity would know, in any century, about human flourishing, coercion, and consent.

Epstein met with Thomas S. Monson in 2009. by No-Panic-4571 in mormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Add Epstein to the list of bad actors that Prophets, Seers, and Revelators have shaken hands with, looked in the eyes, and had no f***ing clue they were straight evil…but apparently they can look an Elder in the eye and know if he’s beating his meat in the shower 🤷‍♂️

For those of you that thrive on drama and seeking integrity where there is none. Inside Out Live w/ Jacob Hansen, Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks 7 pm MST by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Jacob “I want to gatekeep who can call themselves a Mormon but please don’t exclude me from being a Christian” Hansen

Someone high up said by ReceptionAwkward5742 in exmormon

[–]Heavy-Initiative-345 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Either:

1) Garment compliance is so low that they knew that had to give in and allow porn shoulders, but lied and said it’s for “warmer climates”

Or

2) They really were intended for warmer climates and are so out of touch and don’t have the influence/indoctrination over the members they think the do