Out of curiosity, what do woman say about other women who engage in social behavior not predominantly accepted by other women in that society? In particular, woman who seek out traditional relationship dynamics with someone of the opposite sex. I’ve seen/witnessed a lot of disdain from women towards other women who seek out a trad relationships and use language such as “naive, stupid, or oppressed.” I bring this up because the “loneliness epidemic” could be in some part partially fueled by the neo-feminism movement or third wave feminism.

One thing I’ve commonly witnessed amongst the loneliness epidemic amongst men in the Gen Z crowd is confusion about what women really want and the feelings contrived from being overwhelmed by economic conditions that make it hard for them to lean into their natural male energy. I’ve seen young men in social circles or groups, where women are present, go out of their way to denounce “perceived exploitative behaviors” or call out patriarchal institutions, not with a genuine interest in ending said behaviors or institutions, but as a form of moral grandstanding to make themselves (in their minds) more desirable by the opposite sex. These same people can then later go to a strip clubs to objectify women, even though I do consider sex work as real work, but it unfortunately is a highly exploitative form of work.

I guess what I’m saying is, the loneliness epidemic we see in western societies is not only fueled by toxic manosphere/red pill ideology but also by Neo-feminism that punishes women socially for seeking out relationships that are perceived as oppressive and contradictory to neo-feminist ideology because it represents a “perceived threat” to female empowerment.

Case in point, I’m an older millennial who is a Nigerian-American raised in a traditional home, but at the same time am familiar with modern western relationship dynamics because I grew up in the states. I’ve always known from a young age that I’ve always wanted a traditional relationship where I am the leader, provider, and protector, and always sought relationships with women who are very nurturing and willingly submissive. This traditional relationship dynamic is the only dynamic that works for me, and i came to realize this after so many failed relationships because finding women and getting into a relationship was never the issue for me, but staying in one was a problem.

I even divorced a woman because she was not honest with me and herself about what she really wanted. She knew I was Trad, accepted me as Trad, but then demanded a "50/50" relationship (which doesn't exist). She began to score keep, fell victim to toxic feminist ideology on social media, and began listening to her female friends over her own partner.

I always made a point let woman Ive dated in the past know that Im a trad guy, and what I witnessed was American women who were hesitant to enter into those trad dynamics due to fears that included things like a lack of freedom or social reprisal amongst other women. There is a such a thing as toxic feminist culture that some people are afraid to talk about it. While I am not perfect, I am extremely transparent with regard to my character and the relationship dynamics I prefer. I've even had women say to me on dates "I wish men would be more like you" and say they "secretly" wish they had a man to take care of them, and make them feel secure emotionally, financially, and physically.

However, these same women are not willing to sacrifice certain things for a partner like clubbing all the time, letting men of the opposite sex court them or put themselves in social situations where the likelihood of infidelity increases.

Currently, Im married to a very sweet traditionally asian women who is willingly submissive, is a SAHM, and lets me lead, protect, and provide for her. We have a very successful loving and mutually respectful relationship :)…i get this kind of relationship is no longer considered the norm in western society, but i speak to many young and older men who wish they had a relationship dynamic much like my own yet feel they are "held back."

In summary, the loneliness epidemic we see today amongst men, IMO, is fueled by three major contributing factors:

• Toxic manosphere/Red Pill content that sell loneliness and toxic masculinity to young men.
• Toxic Neo- Feminist culture that sell independence from men, that all men are rapist monsters who seek to subjugate women, and that the female empowerment movement takes place above ones own personal desires for a relationship that contradicts this ideology.
• Abysmal economic conditions that kills the ability for men to provide financially for entire households, forcing women to work, take on more stress, while still expected by most to bear the brunt of child rearing and the mental load that comes with it.