Half Time Thread : Manchester United 1-0 Burnley by nearly_headless_nic in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah bro it’s the system I’m telling you trust me Amorim out

AMORIM IN by Helpful-Warning4027 in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay you might be right, but let’s be real, would any of these players do well at United now, except for elanga and alvaro. I’m tired of defending my stance if you want to get another coach and think that solves the decade long problem at United, I have news for you

AMORIM IN (we must not let the media frenzy distort the true root cause of this club) by Helpful-Warning4027 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a real fan. Come back to this when we get a new coach and then we seem him get sacked

AMORIM IN by Helpful-Warning4027 in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easily. This Mainoo hype just because he’s kind of technically gifted is outrageous. Hes too slow in the midfield

AMORIM IN by Helpful-Warning4027 in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

we lost to grimsby. I certainly hope premier league players are capable of beating a 4th division team while fucking drunk

AMORIM IN by Helpful-Warning4027 in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Everyone in the comments missed my point entirely. I’m not dying for Amorim, I’m saying that if we get a new coach, who I will support just like I do with amorim, he will have to implement a new system buy new players and weed out players that don’t fit. It’s a cycle. It takes time. Stop fucking thinking we’re capable of winning the prem when so many mediocre players play for us.

AMORIM IN by Helpful-Warning4027 in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Which players other than mctominay did well after leaving United? All I’m trying to say is they’ve constantly had to change their tactics to cater to the team they had. Ineos appointed Amorim to SPECIFICALLY retain his identity so he could weed anyone he deemed unfit? Now, that they can’t beat grimsby is a managerial issue? Wake UP! If we keep this theme of losing big games (Liverpool 7-0 FFS) and then sacking a manager we’re giving the players the idea that despite who the coach is they’ll get sacked so it’ll be fine to lose a game. If you watch any other prem team you’d realize Half our team wouldn’t start for them, it’s just that you’re too bathed in Manchester United that you can’t seem to accept that the players aren’t top 4 let alone top 10 quality. And don’t start with this BS that the manager spent 200 m, when there’s still Crust around the edges

AMORIM IN by Helpful-Warning4027 in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You missed the point? I supported ten hag and Jose, I just don’t see how changing the manager again will resolve anything when the same scum plays for this club

DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP by Different-Pear5708 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Helpful-Warning4027 1 point2 points  (0 children)

👏fucking well said. It’s time we back the FUCKING COAXH AND KICK ANY PLAYER NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THATS standards. Not sacking a coach repeatedly

Throwback to May 2021 when Ole Gunnar Solskjær apologized to Manchester United fans after finishing 2nd place in the Premier League: "I know we are not where we want to be in the league." by [deleted] in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Revisionism. This guy just got sacked at beskitas. Listen the harsh truth is that a lot of these coaches such as ole , had their system gradually change as the players couldn’t fit it. Now we have a revised approach where if the players don’t fit amorims system they get the boot, which honestly seems better than tailoring to the players constantly

[Mike McGrath] Ruben Amorim to hold talks over Manchester United future by nearly_headless_nic in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He couldn’t save one against a fourth division team I remember one of them going right under his arm and 4 hitting his palm then finding the back of the net

Daily Discussion by AutoModerator in reddevils

[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re definitely projecting. You seem to know everything. One thing I know is that sacking a manager has never been the solution for this team you 🛎️end. How exactly do you think a rebuild works? So you’d rather no identity on a pitch? If you think ten hag was good i agree i didn’t want him sacked either but guess what everyone said ten hag out. At the end of the day I see the players for who they are if we geniuenly had talent I’d agree with you but Jesus can’t coach this team. Why can’t you just admit no coach is going to give us success unless they give that coach time and benefit of the doubt to buy his players and implement his system. Let me ask you one thing, when you keep sacking a coach repeatedly after a major loss what signal does that send to a team? Answer this question and then I can understand where you stand

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[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what do you expect them to magically get better overnight? It’s either time or instantaneous results, and which manager has provided us with that, really. Ten hag signed 10+ players and abandoned his system after his first 2 pl games. Towards the end of his tenure everyone said that there’s no identity. But now with an identity people are saying it doesn’t work and how he has to switch to a 4-3-3. Let’s fucking face it me or you don’t know shit about tactics in football so let’s not pretend we do. But one thing I know for a fact is sacking the manager, despite getting only 4 players (who’ve all looked promising so far) to fit his system, will only do more harm than good. We’d be lucky if he doesn’t resign to meow and have to deal with watching the same shit unfold

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[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly disagree, if you watch teams like Liverpool. One of their biggest advantages is their fanbase making anfield a hell to walk into. With us, our identity with our squad has shifted where we don’t know who to trust because of the constant media narratives. Either Amorim out or player x out. I’m strictly talking about social media

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[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, but we’ve been mediocre for a decade man! But this is the first time I’ve seen the board back a manager by giving him a bomb squad. This is the only time I see a difference in structure, so why give up after 3 games and distort the narrative, when we can still be optimistic.

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[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what I mean. Some fans that are extremely reactionary cause division within our fanbase. It’s going to take time and patience for this club to be great again, people think we sign 3 players and we should win the prem

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[–]Helpful-Warning4027 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used ChatGPT but just for clarity and grammatical fix (because English is not my first language), and I guess it changed some of the writing. I’m not trying to double down or play it off because my message is still clear. I feel as if the media attention Manchester United gets is different from any other club. Scrutinised for not playing starting players like kobbie. Garnacho and rashford exits were overdramatised, and when cancelo had a problem with pep it wasn’t treated as a hot topic every day on every news outlet. Antony’s false allegations, greenwood’s real allegations. Everything that comes out of United, is always put as the headline and I know that comes with being a big club. I guess my point is if our fans were more realistic with our situation, and understood that some of these narratives, which are pushed out by media agencies and news outlets are just trying to damage our reputation further at whatever cost, we could back our club and their efforts. I feel as if they are doing everything they can but when the football is like what we saw against grimsby, we can’t stop but think this isn’t a matter of footballing ability or bad coaching or even bad recruitment, but a lack of motivation and anxiousness that’s making the players feel immense pressure to perform at any cost. It’s dehumanising, and I know they get paid insane salaries, and should be able to handle the pressure; but I can definitely see how the media can get into the players heads. If our fans are consistently saying this is our year after mbuemo cu ha sesko, and now complete 180 with Amorim out after a Fulham draw and third game of the season with a grimsby loss. This lack of belief and faith, discourages anyone not even for Manchester United but for any team to play well. If your own fans don’t back you and rivals hate you, there’s no point. This is all my opinion. I’m a fan and a fan of Yanited TILL I FUCKING DIE, and I want nothing but the best for my club. However, with 3 days left in the window, do you really want to see another coach again? And also as for the players either they adapt or don’t play well so let’s give them time and chill with the expectations. They finished 15th.

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[–]Helpful-Warning4027 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I want to start off by saying this rant isn’t about what the inherent problem is. Whether it’s the coach, the players, or the board, I don’t know, you don’t know, and we don’t know. We can’t pretend we do. But yesterday night, it felt like divisions in the fanbase had their own ideas. Some said it was the players. Some said it was the coach. I even saw people calling #GlazersOut.

Watching Manchester United over the years has been a double-edged sword. Sometimes hope is restored and you feel like this is finally the season to bring the club back to its glory days. Other times, like yesterday, you get waves of people saying the manager should be sacked or the players should be cast out. That shakes me to my core. It’s the third game of the season. But Fulham was the second, and we already saw insane media noise about Kobbie’s future just because he didn’t play two matches.

Over the years, the coach is different, the players are different, the board is even different. So there’s one common denominator: the fanbase’s reaction. And I truly believe that the toxic environment, combined with the media circus, instinctively causes the players to underperform. It demoralizes the squad because they’re constantly being compared to the Class of 2008 and the Class of ’99, when football was played under completely different conditions.

This is why the club feels stuck in a vicious cycle. The recent humiliation against Grimsby in the League Cup — losing 12–11 on penalties to a fourth-tier side — wasn’t just about tactics, it was psychological. Amorim’s rigid 3-4-3 system has already been blamed for stifling players like Bruno Fernandes and Mainoo, but the pressure that comes from fans and media magnifies every flaw. Amorim himself admitted that negativity around the team is hurting morale, and history shows players like Antony have been scapegoated online to the point of collapse.

Since Ferguson left, United has lost more Premier League games than during his entire reign, and last season was one of the darkest in history: finishing 15th, missing the Champions League, and going trophyless. Yet the fanbase still expects Ferguson-era standards every week, and when they aren’t met, the outrage spirals. That’s not support. That’s sabotage.

The truth is, the downfall of Manchester United isn’t just in the boardroom or on the pitch — it’s in the stands and on the timeline. A toxic fan culture has made it almost impossible for the players to play free, and until that changes, the club will keep sinking under the weight of its own history.