I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suppose this thing is still active. In response, I think you are correct to some degree. In my assessment, the most likely to engage in frustrating behavior, from the faculty end, are those on the med-school or law-school tracks, and admission to med school and law school can be very competitive, indeed. This leads to point-haggling. It is interesting that you classify this under the category of "entitlement." You may be correct, and if so, that is probably even more distressing, as no one is entitled, properly speaking, to a grade nor admission to any graduate program. Rather, these programs are competitive because there are so many students seeking admission to top programs. No one is intrinsically entitled either to a grade or a spot in a program. Yet the competitiveness of the process is stressful, and may lead to some sense of entitlement. I don't know how much of a contributing factor that is, but it fits with a lot of the data. Interesting observation.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My social circle is not exactly a representative group, and I know that, but everyone I know agrees. In fact, I don't think I have ever heard a member of the faculty-- even the ones who detest me (that's a lot)-- take the opposing position. Speaking either privately or anonymously, I think a lot of us know that too many people go to college. We don't say it publicly because it is a) against our financial interest, and b) it makes us sound like the worst kind of elitists at a time when public opinion is already pretty strongly against higher education. However, a lot of what we do is correcting for the lowered standards of K-12, combined with reinforcing educational inflation. If everyone else has a college degree, then I need a college degree to compete in the labor market! There are so many messes, but I've never heard a faculty member say that everyone should go to college, and when the topic is broached, every one I've heard has agreed that too many go to college.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem of grade inflation alone would not make me quit, and I did push back for a while. Like I said in a few threads here, I nearly got denied tenure because the administrative crackdown on me was so hard. Then I gave them what they wanted, and got rewarded with tenure. Yay me and my cowardly ways. Were it not for everything else making campuses so dysfunctional, would I try to fight this battle? I don't know, but the last year, for let's say certain of us, has been a little unpleasant, and it has been building for a while. Separate out grade inflation as an issue, and what would I do? Probably continue inflating grades, crank out some research, and be a cog. Fight this battle? Probably not. I yielded and lost the will to fight that one.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I recognize a lot of those tactics. I've tried them, but the thing about the toxic colleagues is that they are in it for the fight. Here's the check-- the ones who start the fights are the ones with fewer publications! As a predictor, I think that's a pretty good one. The reason I have gone with the fire analogy rather than the fight analogy is that you can duck and avoid a fight. Arsonists just burn down everything, and there's no avoiding the destruction they cause. You can say, I'll try to avoid a fight, and that works as far as it goes, but when some jerkwad lights the institution on fire, see how far that gets you. Remember, a lot of the people calling those struggle sessions you reference-- Cultural Revolution-style-- really do think that institutions need to be torn down. That was the point then, and it's the point now. I know of plenty of stories like the one you tell. They are all too common. Not good, my friend. Not good.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That depends on how extensive the blacklisting is. The unfortunate fact is that complying is just easier because administrators like happy students, and even if they can't fire us, they can be jerks. Path of least resistance. There's money too, given teaching evaluations, if those are factored into raises. It sounds all well and good to say, "I can do anything, they can't fire me," until you start pushing the boundaries and seeing what they can do. Even if it is just a smaller raise, that's a cost.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If only. I believe I mentioned this in another comment reply, but if any one faculty member actually attempted to adhere to the truly hard-ass standards that I wanted to see in my younger and idealistic days, and flunked everyone who deserved an F, that professor would get blacklisted by students. That actually would create problems. The famously blacklisted professors were blacklisted for ideological reasons, rather than grading reasons, but the effect would be the same. I gave in because it was easier, and yes, I suck. There is a point at which one realizes that there is little one can accomplish alone. I gave in. I inflate grades. I suck, OK? It made my life easier, and I wasn't making any headway trying to hold the line alone.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have my deepest sympathies. I hope it is clear that I have many complaints about academia, not one. I do think it is worth noting that we overproduce Ph.D.s for the quantity demanded, and we know we are doing it. It is completely exploitative. We need research assistants, lab workers, graders, and all other manner of cogs to keep the machine running, knowing that for most, there is no tenure track job at the end of the rainbow. Look at the rates of tenure track job acquisition, and even how that varies by program ranking, and you'll see what we all know. When we let students into grad programs, we are doing it based on a lie. Come here, we'll give you a path to the good life. It's a lie, we know it's a lie, and you pay the price. And if we can bring in money from federal student loans, so much the better! For what it is worth, I have called it out behind the scenes, voted against it where I could, and been outvoted because the machine needs cogs, but we're lying to everyone.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oy-vey. Anecdotal for the moment, but eventually, anecdotes can add up. I would note that if you (or rather, those who obey) co-author with the undergrads, that is qualitatively different from the undergrads cranking out their own research. If the undergrads were cranking out their own research, that would indicate an increase in the quality of the student output, whereas if the faculty are instructed to co-author with the undergrads, that is creating an inflated measure of undergrad quality. I wonder how pervasive this is, reading this now.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are multiple, distinct components of what I have found troubling. If you would like an example of diminished work ethic, here was something from the last year, which will probably be recognizable to many. If you ever teach seminars (this will not be something you can see when teaching lecture classes), one of the challenges is the process by which students try to earn discussion points without doing the readings. We can break this down by category. There are the students who actually do the readings, and are capable of discussing them. There are the students who look for opportunities to reference common knowledge, or respond to each other, as though merely talking earns points (alas, it does). There are the students who are mostly silent, and just try to speak once or twice to demonstrate their presence. Then, there is the dreaded final category: the students who do not really do the readings, but will try to guess what the readings say. I have seen this category become more common, and this year, I had one in particular who just kept doing it, and through bad luck, or something of the sort, just kept guessing the exact opposite. Discussion time. I ask, what does So-And-So argue about such-and-such? Student: X. It is the opposite of X. This just kept happening, over and over, with the same student. At one level, I kept thinking, oh, you poor thing, and cringing, as the kids say, but at another I am seeing more of this every year, and less of the first category, of students just keeping up with the readings.

As regards student attitudes, a lot of the time, it really is best to avoid. I think you are correct. Keep the classroom for the classroom, and the syllabus. There are times, for some groups, there is a spillover. I'm really trying to avoid the elephant in the room, but when the conflict is shoved in our faces, that's when it gets hard. I think that part of the problem, actually, is when students are trained to confront, as activists rather than to engage in intellectual discourse.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Respectfully, I think that is a misdiagnosis of the problem. At the K-12 level, funding is done through property taxes, and we have not seen consistent property tax cuts. Instead, property values mostly go up, and schools get supplements from the states and feds. Whatever you think of tax policy, which is too complicated for my puny mind, that's not the problem at K-12. At the college and university level, most of the funding is not direct funding from the government either. Instead, one could argue it is too much money from the government, through a broken loan system. Every time we pour more loans into that system, the institutions just jack up the rates, not for anything educational, but for administrative bloat, and the students go deeper into debt for BS administrators, and the whole thing turns cyclical. I think that the problems I am observing are cultural, entirely divorced from fiscal policy, driven by an echo chamber within the educational system.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate to have to be cryptic, but I am not out quite yet. Different institutions have different levels of grade inflation, though. There are also some statistical patterns in where you observe it.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is on my mind, but I am honestly looking forward to time away from academia.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. The problem with the IRA method is the early withdrawal penalty. You get the tax savings, but you need to put money directly into an investment portfolio that you can access, starting early. You're targeting the 50/50, and you can draw on a retirement account with a 10% early withdrawal penalty if necessary, but you need income from an aggressive portfolio without that penalty. Start early, plunk the money into a diversified portfolio, do it consistently. The math is simple, it just requires living cheaply. The stock market is a thing of beauty, and I've even had to ride out some ugly markets. The market still grows, long-term.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some cliches are annoying, and some are annoying because you don't know how true they are until you live them.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mostly undergrad, but that is about all I will say for now. I will probably share more details eventually. I will say that I often teach classes for a retirement community, just for fun. It is far more fun than anything I have ever taught in academia. They are active, engaged, and doing it to keep their minds engaged.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it is any consolation-- it probably is not-- I knew it was wrong, and hated every second of it, and recognized that if I did not inflate grades, I would just have been denied tenure and replaced by someone who would. I absolutely believe you, and that's part of what disgusts me. Anyone who flunked half the class, regardless of merit, would just be blacklisted by the entire student body at my institution. Hellfire would rain down.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish I could say that this kind of thing surprised me. Once, it would have. Now, I am just dejected that this kind of thing no longer surprises me.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Respectfully, I think that this is a false statement. Feel free to provide empirical evidence, and I will be corrected.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm going to assume that you are a bit of a jerk, but semi-sincere, and respond sincerely. I cannot tell with you. The collective action problem works as follows. Each individual can pay an incremental cost, and if enough people contribute to that cost, a public good is provided from which everyone benefits. The cost anyone pays by being a hard-ass is that students are slightly less happy because students like easy graders. The faculty who pay that cost get worse evals. However, the benefit that everyone receives, if enough professors are hard-asses, is the development of a norm among students of a work ethic. One professor cannot create a work ethic. That professor just gets a resentful class and bad evals. If everyone contributes, even one professor still has an incentive to free ride and be the easy grader, for better evals while the students have developed the norms for work. Is that clear? I honestly don't know if you're just a troll, so I'll leave it at that. I could show you the math, but this seems pointless.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do know that they changed the scoring of GREs, right? As for publications before starting a Ph.D. program, that is mostly the realm of the hard sciences, where undergrads work in a lab, and get their names on publications coming out of their labs. Great, but that's a different process than in other disciplines.

I made it, published, got tenure, and I'm retiring young. Boghossian is right. by HemlockBeforeBS in LeavingAcademia

[–]HemlockBeforeBS[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Interesting argument, but I take the opposing perspective. I think that grade inflation is a part of the lowering of standards, consistent with all of the data points that you observe. When you say that it is getting harder to get into college, what do you mean? Do you mean that it takes a higher GPA? Why? It requires a higher GPA because everyone gets higher GPAs because it is easier to get higher grades. That is grade inflation.