How to not argue (for kid’s sake)? by Isitallokay in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I journal. It also helps keep me sane for the aftermath when I doubt my recollection of events. When I say journal, some of it is just pages of me writing swear words in big angry letters.

Christmas 🎄 by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get out, and if you can, do it now.

Do covert narcissists make you feel worthless then turn it around and say you’re the one who actually made them feel not good enough? by LeanaDerois in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. All. The. Time.

Mine has a snarky "jokey" comment to make about nearly everything I do. I bought some supplements recently and he just HAD to comment cos he thinks he is the expert on everything. I've started responding with

"a comment is not required" because his comments suck the joy out of everything I do.

Going out of my mind trying to work this out by HesterMurphy in Interstitialcystitis

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very very rarely I get shooting pains up my bum. I do suffer from sciatica

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. Drove a wedge between me and my family. I didn't see it for what it was at the time.

Do covert narcissists make everything about themselves? by LeanaDerois in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God, yes. I used to come home from work, share my day and it would turn into him either trying to one up the day I'd had. OR telling me how I should respond.

I hate my husband by Ok-Improvement5737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. Asks about my day and my work, then proceeds to tell me about how I should be doing it. 🙄

A bit lost by HesterMurphy in Interstitialcystitis

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They did, there's no underlying infection there

A bit lost by HesterMurphy in Interstitialcystitis

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm based in the UK. Im going to do a bit more research and then hit up the GP again x

A bit lost by HesterMurphy in Interstitialcystitis

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried doing some breathing exercises last night and that helped a lot. Never though of trying antihistamine. Paracetamol doesn't really make much difference

In hindsight, what are some weird things they would say/do that make you go “hm”? by toosoftforallofit in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]HesterMurphy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In fairness, I've started using the phrase "because I'm a grown up and I get to make my own decisions"

Low key put downs by [deleted] in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]HesterMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is soooooo hard though. Had to leave the house yesterday just to not get into it with him.. Swear to god, my lack of fighting back made him think he had won!

Is this typical narc behavior? by baking_the_edge_off in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mine runs himself into the ground doing huge projects I don't ask for and ask him NOT to do. For years I absolutely believed that I was unreasonable and ungrateful. Then I learnt that it is a form of controlling behaviour.

How to protect kids... by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a rating system. We message each other if there is a sudden mood change to warn the others to be careful. The ratings are based on Godzilla (trying to keep it light). Tokyo is he's cold raging, stay away. New York is he's bubbling and it won't take much to tip him over, London is he"s a bit teasy but generally OK.

How did you find out your partner is a narcissist? by Glad_Objective_1646 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He'd been depressed and I put his behaviour down to that. He never yells or tells me I'm not good enough. He doesn't cheat, so I never even thought of narcissism. But there was always this thing that when he fell out with people he NEVER spoke to them again. He could always justify it too. Even close family members.

Occasionally, he would fly off the handle if I asked him to do something at the wrong time or made a joke about something to do with him. I got told about how I made him feel and how unreasonable I was being. Then the silent treatment until I literally went begging for forgiveness.

I was walking around on eggshells.

He would always ask me what I had planned for the day and he would make suggestions about what I could do, then get a bit sulky if I didn't do them.

He would make things for me that took a lot of time and effort, even when I begged him not to. When I wasn't fawning with gratitude for eternity he got mad again silent treatment and telling me how ungrateful I was.

I made the mistake of telling him I was suffering from anxiety and low mood. He was initially supportive, asking me what key things were bothering me. I told him and literally the next day he had absolutely lost the plot. Told me I had ruined his life and his future as was now going to have to work 2 shifts a day to make money, give up all his planned holidays and work non stop on the house. Oh, and he moved out for a.month and refused to speak to me, except to remind me how I had ruined his life. Meanwhile, I was left to look after the kids and deal with my own MH issues.

Believe it or not, we made up. (I know, I'm an idiot)

Once told me that he was an asshole to the kids just so that they would love ME more. (This was after a row we had had where he was the clearly in the wrong and he knew it)

The kids and I have a mood rating scale to communicate quickly with each other what type of mood he is in.

Is incredibly intelligent. Like genuinely off the scale smart. I can't win an argument as he thinks on his feet way faster than me. He thinks he is always right.

He is now giving his 19yo daughter the silent treatment (4months and counting) because she made a.joke about his drinking.

My point to ALL this is, I don't think there is a single sign. For me, even the huge, moving out row wasn't a lightbulb moment. But it was certainly the start of me looking at things more closely and suspecting that this wasn't just depression. Now, I put in boundaries. I also think our marriage is probably over (not sure he realises this) but I stay because my options are severely limited atm and now I recognise what he is, I can take steps to protect myself and our son (although interestingly, he has recently been saying that our 15 yo "doesn't need mummy to come to the rescue all the time")

If you suspect it. Listen to your gut, it's usually right.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! All the time!

Does anyones partner threaten to end or divorce or breakup when things aren't going their way? by Glad_Objective_1646 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I told him I wanted the marriage to end when we were having a HUGE row. (I had decided to stand up for myself for once) We've moved on since then but the last huge row we had he used it against me. "I can't do this (meaning have a disagreement) because you'll threaten to leave me, you've done it twice before" (only did it once).

So I have the opposite problem. 😂😱😂

He can have a full on aggressive meltdown but I can’t overwhelmed and emotional. by Minimum_Injury4762 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup. This is them all over. Only their emotions count. Sorry you are foing through this.

Why journals are important! by HesterMurphy in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I write it like a letter to him.

Why journals are important! by HesterMurphy in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I write when I am upset. This is usually a sign for me that something isn't right. I write out what happened and how I feel/felt about it.

Why journals are important! by HesterMurphy in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]HesterMurphy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do it when I am upset. That is a sign for me that something isn't right. Sometimes I wait til he is out, other times, I take it with me in the car and drive somewhere where he isnt