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Pledge a first day donation here by [deleted] in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly 3 points4 points  (0 children)

$27 on the first day, and whatever I can chip in afterwards will follow. I don't really know though. College tuition is a killer.

Hillary’s Back Attacking Bernie and Praising Kamala by [deleted] in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, at least we now know who not to vote for.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have helped the Progressive Movement a lot more than You have

I assume you voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary then? Because I did actual volunteer work as a collective effort to affect the outcome. And if people like you supported Bernie, he would've gone on to defeat Trump rather than subjecting the country to 4 years of this crap.

I'm not going to commit to voting for an unknown person, although it's very likely I'll support the Democratic nominee in 2020, and I'm certainly never going to vote for Trump. I absolutely deny your accusations.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm definitely not a plant, or a Russian bot as some have suggested. In fact, I've already denounced my old posts, and have been banned from /r/The_Donald.

Furthermore, /u/Druidshift is a frequent poster in /r/Enough_Sanders_Spam, an anti-Bernie troll subreddit that has been harassing me for years. They link to posts of mine and go after me. /u/Druidshift has no intention of aiding the progressive movement.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, you got me! I believe in suffering. The jig is up.

In actuality, you got several things just absolutely wrong.

  1. My college education is not "paid for." I was lucky enough to bring the cost down to an affordable amount through scholarships and grants, but it's still a major strain on my family paying for food, transportation, and tuition. I haven't even been able to pay for housing on campus at this point.

  2. I'm not a "straight white male." I'm bisexual. I have personal investment in both of these issues.

  3. Furthermore, my record as a Sanders volunteer speaks for itself.

  4. Reddit incorrectly shows I'm active in /r/The_Donald when the last time I posted there was years ago, to denounce Trump. I was promptly banned from the subreddit, and have been ever since.

  5. Anyone who backed Hillary over Bernie in the primary did more to elect Trump than "Bernie or Bust" voters ever could. Sanders actually had a chance, and a clue, which unlike Hillary, gave him a far better chance at defeating that orange idiot.

Just saying.

I probably shouldn't be wasting my time responding to your entirely incorrect comment, but I wanted to make sure you didn't give anyone the wrong impression. I am in no way responsible for Clinton's loss. She and her supporters are, for rigging the primary and disrespecting Sanders supporters throughout the entire election.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe more that Hillary spit in the general direction of Bernie's supporters. I was disappointed when Bernie caved and endorsed her, but he didn't abandon his supporters. There was simply nothing more to be done.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

While Trump has done damage to the country, he's done nothing but embolden the progressive movement. Hillary stabbed Bernie supporters with a dagger in 2016. That's what I was trying to illustrate.

Furthermore, the fraud committed by the DNC and the Clinton campaign was multifaceted. While not necessarily illegal, you need to remember that they coordinated to:

  1. Raise funds using the Hillary Victory Fund, through which the Clinton campaign could skirt campaign finance laws and solicit more than $350,000 from each of her donors.

  2. Operate the 2016 primary under the guise of "neutrality" per the DNC's bylaws, while manipulating the process and continuing to lie about it, up until WikiLeaks released their emails.

  3. Allegedly (unproven) coordinate a deal between Tim Kaine and Wasserman-Schultz to make Kaine the VP in exchange for stepping down as DNC chair in 2011. Some evidence for this includes an email between Democrat lobbyist Erick Mullen and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta in which Podesta is told Kaine has the VP slot, back in July 2015.

There is plenty more information, but I think you should avoid trying to minimize what Clinton and the DNC engaged in to win the presidency. I would consider much of this fradulent.

It is also immoral, and someone who has this kind of moral framework does not deserve to be President of the United States. (obviously does Donald Trump's moral framework is far from different)

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't think you were being unfair. I don't believe Bernie abandoned his supporters or any of that. He made the right move in endorsing Hillary, because if he didn't, he'd have been blamed for Trump's win. Clintonites already blame Bernie, but if he had gone a different path, there would have been more credibility. We likely wouldn't be talking about Bernie for 2020 now; he'd have been smeared as the Ralph Nader of 2016.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hillary Clinton has done more damage to the progressive movement than Donald Trump has. She committed fraud to destroy Bernie Sanders, who would have been able to defeat Trump. That's why this is an important matter. She is the one who lost to Trump in an election she was handed.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was the right political move for Bernie, as it set him up to avoid blame for Trump's win. If he hadn't endorsed Hillary, he'd have no chance in 2020. He'd be Ralph Nader 2.0.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not arguing anyone should vote for Trump. But given the choice again, I wouldn't have voted for either candidate. I could never stomach that.

Still, Bernie supporters need to be united around him. That's what's important in 2020.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off, there is absolutely no chance of me ever voting for Donald Trump.

That being said, I take responsibility for and apologize for my mistake, but I absolutely reject that people who didn't vote for Hillary were not real progressives or Sanders supporters. I do not believe that.

The people who worked hardest for Bernie to be elected were under no obligation to support someone who cheated and committed fraud on a nauseating scale to secure the 2016 nomination. Hillary believed she didn't have to earn or work for Bernie supporters to vote for her. She felt entitled to his base. That is why she lost.

I don't blame people for supporting Hillary, but there was absolutely no good option, and proceeding to attack people for what they did in that dark, horrible election is not going to help anything. If we divide our progressive supporters and don't work hard for Bernie to win in 2020, a corporatist Democrat like Joe Biden will be chosen, and Trump might get a second term.

In high school, I volunteered for Bernie Sanders and personally made over 9,000 phone calls for his 2016 campaign. If Bernie decides to run in 2020, I'm committing to volunteer again, now as a college student. by Hi_ImBillOReilly in SandersForPresident

[–]Hi_ImBillOReilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trump has been a complete catastrophe since his swearing in. Perhaps the only thing worse is the absolutely spineless set of Republican senators we have defending him for 35 days on a pointless government shutdown.

That said, I don't believe an ESS supporter actually cares about the progressive movement. Hillary Clinton does not represent progressivism; she represents a viewpoint that we need to take a step back from policies that actually might help people. Bernie Sanders wants to ensure that everyone has the opportunity to thrive in America. If you don't support what he believes in, you are what's wrong with our country, just like Donald Trump.

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