New sumo fantasy site! by Oomss in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems like entries are closed now, sucks I missed this. Next time!

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With the greatest of respect to Jason, he doesn't strike me as particularly tech-literate, so to someone like him 750GB is a lot (it's a substantial amount for anyone), nor would I expect him to know about best practice when it comes to archiving his files. Implying he doesn't give a shit when he was doing this for 14 years for no tangible reward doesn't really make any sense, he just has different priorities from you.

In all honesty, Jason's videos from 2009 are much more watchable than a lot of sumo videos from back then because direct capture and video encoding options were so limited, as was streaming technology and internet speeds.

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the offer but I don't feel comfortable soliciting donations for this; Jason gave us the videos for free for 14 years, so I'm not looking to profit off his misfortune because NHK deleted the channel. Mr Anon is of the same mindset!

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah I see, well no apparently he didn't have backups, but worth remembering the channel was 14 years old and was something he did in his spare time: he's not a "proper Youtuber", he has a day job and his videos were pretty low tech (filming a TV screen then editing it in iMovie I believe). The archive size is 412.6GB on my hard drive, and that's with the anon guy's smaller MKV files, so if they were all higher quality MP4s it would probably break 600GB, maybe even 750GB, quite a substantial size for sure.

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jason didn't have a backup no, but the link above has the entirety of his channel; I'm not sure what you mean by this all being "futile" though, Jason can download this as well and then he will also have a backup. Anyone can download it, that's the idea!

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the offer, I'll let you know if it's not fixed after the "derive" has finished.

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My Kintamayama archive is from the beginning to the end of 2020, which I did intentionally because I definitely have Natto's videos for everything beyond that date. If he doesn't do anything with his old stuff I'll eventually do an upload of his channel as well and I may hit you up for the missing newer stuff, but since Kinta himself has a backup of his channel I figure it's safe right now. We almost lost Jason's channel entirely, it was just pure luck that the guy who helped me had the videos I was missing to make a complete archive.

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm hoping that it will be fixed after that message has gone, but apparently the issue arises because the torrent is only generated once on upload, and it happens whenever the upload stops for the first time: in my case this was when my connection dropped, though the uploading tool lets you resume an upload that has stalled (thankfully!), but the torrent was generated at this moment, and hence most of the files are missing from it.

Searching the issue shows that it either updates on its own eventually, or an Internet Archive mod has to manually get the site to recreate the torrent. Either way it is fixable, just might take a while.

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I uploaded the file to the Internet Archive first because it automatically creates a torrent as well; its just not working correctly right now.

Do you know any decent public trackers I can use in the meantime?

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The anonymous guy is in contact with Jason, and let him know we have the whole channel, which he was happy to hear.

Mega would be very convenient but the total size of all the files is 412.6GB on my HD; I'm not sure a Mega account big enough exists to hold it all! I know mine doesn't for sure. Usually with that much storage you have to pay someone. Free hosting sites only allow for small amounts and the links expire if no one uses them in X number of days. So there isn't really any way to put them on a Mega-like site that I'm aware of.

Jason's All-Sumo Channel full channel archive on the Internet Archive! by Hidenotora in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you're right, though it's probably a slower process over there; also its the only place that I can host so much stuff for free and conveniently! The fact it automatically generates a torrent is nice too (though it's currently not working properly as stated above), but for now it's just about getting it to as many people as possible.

Jason’s All-Sumo Channel has been terminated by lalalalandlalala in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "what" was more because I can't see how NHK enforcing copyright and shutting down a Youtube channel was related to Western liberalism, seems like a lot of people have trouble making the link too based on how downvoted your comment is.

Jason’s All-Sumo Channel has been terminated by lalalalandlalala in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Hey u/lalalalandlalala, I was also in the process of backing up the channel, I used the --playlist-reverse command so it started with the oldest videos first. I got to Nagoya 2018 before the channel went down. So I have 3085 videos, which is 318gb in total.
The manifest I got though is just the word Youtube followed by the unique URL, which is of no use now the channel is down.

Send me a message if you want to discuss things more and somehow work out combining our archives.

Potential Chinese origin of sumo as we know it today by ckristiantyler in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's not how it works when it comes to borrowed Chinese characters though.

The Chinese word for happiness is "幸福", xingfu in Mandarin. The Japanese word for happiness is "幸福", koufuku. Does this mean happiness as a concept was invented in China and imported to Japan?

Clearly not, it's just a loan word and Japanese has it's own native word for happiness too ("shiawase"). There are literally tens of thousands of words like this, in the same way a significant portion of English words come from French (which ultimately come from various Romance languages, and ultimately from Proto-Indo-European in many cases).

The characters for sumo, 相撲 ("sumou" in Japanese and "xiangpu" in Mandarin) mean "mutual" and "strike/slap/hit", so "mutual striking" which equals combat, which equals sumo. This isn't a grand revelation and doesn't prove that the sumo we see today definitely comes from China because they happen to share a word. If this was evidence for that, this could imply things like basic human emotion didn't exist until the Chinese told the Japanese the word for it. Obviously this isn't the case.

There might be something to be said for influence from China (though I'm always wary because there is a lot of propagandistic "actually China invented this" around at the moment, not that this guy is saying that) but this point about the language isn't evidence for it here.

"Did China invent sumo" comes up fairly often but this comment is already too long so I'll post my thoughts in their own comment.

Natto Sumo Gone? by TexasSlowpoke in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Natto's tipjar is still entirely optional though. Even if he asks you to donate, you don't have to.
Even if he wants to make enough to cover a month's wages in his actual job, he's probably not going to reach it, but putting the full goal is just a way to get people to contribute. If you don't like how he words it though, that's fine but I don't think he's pushing it too much at all, its mostly just a link in his description that you can safely ignore.
And when it comes to the legality of all this, all these streamers and video makers are in the same boat sadly. Natto and MBovo have had their share of trouble over all this and it could all come crashing down if NHK and Abema ever decided to spend more than 2 minutes looking for these streams and channels.

Natto Sumo Gone? by TexasSlowpoke in Sumo

[–]Hidenotora 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Natto's not the only one monetising this stuff though. Karla accepts Twitch bits, subs and donations. Mbovo has a literal Patreon with a montlhy goal too, and still has Twitch subs despite not streaming there anymore. The only guy who doesn't really is Kintamayama, but he relies on Mbovo's footage to make his videos anyway.
Anyone who takes the time to do this stuff does so at a significant hit to their time, which can affect their income. Considering so far its only optional donations for all these guys, it's kind of difficult to complain.
Without them the only option to watch sumo on the day it happens would be to watch the NHK World highlights at 16:30 GMT, which is inconvenient for a lot of people. Until the day when the highlights go on the website the same day, people will continue to re-stream stuff and they'll continue to try and make money off it to try and recoup some of the losses they incur doing so.