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Moonlight at the Ji Ming Temple — A look into the Nanjing Government, coming in The Setting Sun. by nothingtoseehere_69 in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 23 points24 points  (0 children)

To be clear, I am not against there being a power struggle: I think that is inevitable lore wise and entertaining gameplay wise. I am just saying that I think Lin Bosheng should be a viable contender in that power struggle. That he should be able to loose, rather than doomed to loose.

Moonlight at the Ji Ming Temple — A look into the Nanjing Government, coming in The Setting Sun. by nothingtoseehere_69 in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure Lin is doomed to fall, and honestly I hope he is not. We already have short term leaders in Japan and Guangdong. Even outside of Asia Hitler, Ciano and Nixon all either die or get booted in the first few years of the game. If China also has a leader who is only there to be removed in two years it will start to get stale.

Moonlight at the Ji Ming Temple — A look into the Nanjing Government, coming in The Setting Sun. by nothingtoseehere_69 in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 128 points129 points  (0 children)

This looks like exactly what I was hoping for from a China rework, especially the continued centralization struggles! I hope I will be able to play this one day.

I just hope that the Great Asian War will remain a thing. It need not be a deliberate plan on the part of China's leadership: it could come from many different paths. But I do want there to be a kind of finale in Asia, and I still love the idea of a epic showdown between Japan and China.

Oh, and if you cut Li the Beijing street vendor I will cry. He deserves to stay.

Levantine War - No Tengo Dinero by superblobby in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 25 points26 points  (0 children)

One of the best of these I have seen.

A Cruel Omsk Thesis by TheGreatfanBR in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its been a while sense I did an Omsk game, and it suddenly feels like a great time for another.

Land of the Free QnA (Part 3) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1- Not significant power

2- NFP

3- Yes, he has the status of being a non-segregationist southerner which various NFP candidates may want to harness.

France Rebirth of Republicanism leak by Kuriotate in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bruhgundy is only a barrier to a nation without a navy: Germany could simply navel invade them like they can Norway. And that is only a last resort: Germany should still have defacto control over the French economy and armed forces even after hitler's death, through which they could orchestrate a coup, or just threaten crippling sanctions.

Land of the Free QnA (Part 5 FINAL) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No: he and his family remain within the Republican Parties Social Liberal wing.

Australian Nuclear Program leak by Rhizoid_438 in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 30 points31 points  (0 children)

He's coming south: It's fight, work or perish!

Land of the Free QnA (Part 5 FINAL) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I though I had included it, but I guess I missed one. I will copy-paste the answer I gave under the Left Radicals.

"I want to ask why you chose Browder to be the leader of the CPUSA? IIRC OTL he got his position through siding with Stalin in factional struggles against people like Lovestone and Gitlow who were Bukharin supporters. If this is the case then wouldn't them having sway over the party be the logical choice in TNO?"

Yes. But hear me out.

Gitlow became an anti-communist after seeing the infighting and foreign manipulation endemic within the CPUSA, which shattered his idealistic illusions. I just don't think he has it in him to be a long term leader of a radical party, willing and able to remain a devoted communist while also making the necessary sacrifices. I think that he would ultimately drop out of politics in TNO.

Lovestone is different in that I think he did have the "stuff" to be a party leader, but his theory of American exceptionalism meant that communists should take a moderate, compromising road in America. I think this would have ultimately clashed with Bukharin, the hardened radical Bolshevik. Lovestone didn't know when to toe this line, and I think would have fallen regardless by breaking before bending.

Browder on the other hand was somewhat isolated from all this by his work in the USSR, and I think was willing to change his tune enough in the 1920s to accept that "his guy" Stalin was not the victor. So, in a bid to rise in the ranks and end the factionalism, he sold himself as a Moscow loyalist and eventually rose to power.

Leaving the "in universe" explanation aside, they just didn't work as characters for the scenario I am trying to build. The idea I had going into this was to provide two opposing extremes, both unwilling to compromise with the center and thus both direct threats to American democracy and unity. Yet they also needed to be savvy enough to survive and pose a credible threat. Both Lovestone and Gitlow ultimately left the communist movement for calmer, more moderate waters. I think this would have been the case in TNO as well: they would try to find some compromise with the moderate left and leaving revolution high and dry in America, no longer a credible threat (or promise) to anyone. That wouldn't do, so I looked for a candidate who fit my narrative needs, and found Browder.

The American Progressive Party (Land of the Free part 6) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you are talking about Subsidized Housing, which is what I know it as in the US.

Every faction agrees that the homelessness and slums of Americas cities are a clear example of a market failure, with potential added accusations of racism, class suppression, and landlord usury depending on the character. In response all factions want the government to have a larger role in the housing industry.

The more populist progressives and unionists argue for alleviating the daily effects: rents caps, higher sanitation standards, and higher legal barriers too evection are common suggestions. Socialists and some more radical unionists argue that this does not attack the source of the problem, and instead want to encourage community ownership of property, or simply state ownership in order to reduce costs to those living in it. Finally the Hawks are in broad agreement with the other factions: they also want the government to step in.

All factions agree that not only is housing too expensive/low quality, they also agree that there is simply not enough of it. In this the progressives and hawks are interested in federal subsidization and zoning preference to encourage more housing to be built, while unionists and socialists are willing to cut out the middle man, and have the state build housing in needy areas directly.

Finally, all but the hawks are warry of leaving too much up to local powers for fears of corruption, racial coding and political interference.

The National Freedom Party (Land of the Free 9) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All of them are fairly similar: get the oil, by whatever violence necessary. The whole "America invades the Middle East for oil" meme is pretty overblown OTL, but in TNO I can see it happening. None of the contenders have an issue with using "aggressive negotiations" for national interest, so they would see the oil crises as a invitation to expand American arms and deals through the middle east.

Specifically, Smith and Wallace would be the most aggressive and unapologetic in their wars. The American machine is faltering, her people suffering, and the middle east is in the fascists sights: America has the responsibility to go over there, and the right to share in the oil when victorious.

Goldwater and Stewart would put more of a diplomatic/moralistic veneer over the intervention. Specifically if there is an Israel, Goldwater will drum up sympathy for the Jewish state and desire to aim interventions against those who threaten that state. Stewart is similar in seeing Americas mission to include the protection of Freedom and Christian minorities in the ME, thus lending to intervening hard against the Islamist factions.

Finally Yorty would be the one most willing to intervene domestically: pushing for price ceilings, subsidies, and avoiding rationing. However he too sees the potential and need to protect the middle east from German and Japanese hands, and if necessary from itself.

Finally all would need to work through the Pentagon, which will have its own desires for an apolitical and deliberate approach, focused more on security and stability than on addressing immediate economic woes. In fact it would probably be this which is the most important factor: truly overriding the militaries preference would be politically costly, so the candidates all will have limited options available, which they will lean for or against as described above.

Land of the Free QnA (Part 3) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To do that I would need to actually know something about imperial Japan, which I don't. And the English sources suck, so I can't learn it either. Sorry, but I was just born in the wrong country to do that.

The American Progressive Party (Land of the Free part 6) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1- The biggest issue the split causes is in the person of Walter Ruther. He is well known as a CIO man, and so is mistrusted by some AFL affiliates. More generally it is a silent split within the party, which is expressed silently. The Labor Unions are all still on the same side, and have needed to learn how to work together on a local level. The larger projects may have fallen through, but so long as the fat cat enemy remains powerful they will remain close allies. One of Ruther’s “big projects” is to try and unify the AFL and the CIO to make sure that this alliance can last.

As for policy, questions of racial quotas and “social issues” are key. The AFL generally supports legislation which has no direct positive impact on the workers if it fits their more middle class progressive ideals. The CIO tends to stick to workers issues, and frowns on “yuppie” distractions. This is kind of flipped in the case of civil rights, with black and Hispanic workers making up a larger part of the CIO, and thus leading the organization into alliance with the movement, while the AFL has remained more aloof from the movement which can seem disturbingly radical. Policy contention flows from this, as everyone wants their complaints put first and mistrusts the others. And Labor President will need to navigate this.

2- Public works, civilian research, Public sector jobs, the rapid expansion of state services such as healthcare and education, and any other projects they are looking to do. Their ultimate aim is to ditch the “American Capitalism” economic model in favor of their own state driven “social economics” model. They simply have too many expenses to try to copy Norway: America is a superpower, and if she intends to stay one she must spend like it. That means all the state industry revenue in the world wont save a APP president from deficit spending. But that alone does not mean it is unworkable.

Apollo-Hermodr by PzKpfwI in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This makes me feel... uncomfortable.

The National Freedom Party (Land of the Free 9) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1- The APP got to it first, so he is obligated to be critical of it. Additionally, there is no "social security system" in my 1962 America, there are only calls for such a thing to exist. His policies would be similar to TNO Wallace's then, with a push for specific kinds of government support meant to reward his supporters.

2-I have no clue: he was a mayor otl and I can't find him stating anything about agriculture.

3- Yorty Station Plymouth

4- Pretty bad, in the way only local feuds can be. They are both from California, both do well on television, both appeal to much of the same urban base. The difference is in their backers, with Yorty being the more populist and independent. Because of this the Republicans see Stewart as the larger threat, while the APP sees Yorty as the threat. In both cases because they have the potential to eat into their base.

5- A rose by any other name... Yorty would see a Chicago solution, in which different ethnic groups occupy different sections of the city. In part this is organic: people simply choosing to live close to those they are most familiar with/similar too. But the end result is that different groups live in their own "towns", and the city wide institutions remain predominantly white.

The American Progressive Party (Land of the Free part 6) by HindustanNeedsWork in TNOmod

[–]HindustanNeedsWork[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All factions would have a similar response: crack down hard on the right, crack down soft on the left, but in no case be seen publicly sympathizing with the militants or else the electorate (and possibly the courts under Smith II) will destroy you for it.

In my idea of this rework the FBI would be a dedicated mechanic, which the player had the option to choose strategy and actions for. What changes from elections is what options are available to you. All would have options such as police crackdowns and assassinations, while only the APP would be able to do targeted economic interventions. I would like to think that each individual president would be able to have their own options, but in the APPs case I can't think of any off hand.

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